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empireOfLove, do gaming w What are your favorite video games that force you to pull out the pen and paper?
@empireOfLove@lemmy.one avatar

Factorio

Gotta keep track of production balance somehow…

Rakqoi,

In the same vein, Satisfactory and Dyson Sphere Program. I love planning and optimizing and it feels great to plan it on paper then build it in the game, only to run into countless problems, distractions, and rabbit holes of things to do to achieve my goals, requiring taking countless more notes to keep track of it all. Definitely one of my favorite genres of games.

brennesel,
@brennesel@feddit.de avatar

Satisfactory is the first game I thought of. It even made me craft little 2D building models to plan proper factory layouts.

LoopingRiver, do gaming w What type of game do you want to play that doesn't really exist?

A new modern take on Sim Life. More genes, neural networks, etc. I loved that game as a kid.

bermuda, do gaming w What are your favorite video games that force you to pull out the pen and paper?

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  • KyuubiNoKitsune,

    I came here to say "Any Cyan game", Riven i think was definitely one of the most complex and needed the most notes. They've recently released Firmament and Riven remake is on its way too.

    tenkuucastle,
    @tenkuucastle@kbin.tenkuu.social avatar

    Totally forgot firmament was coming out!! Riven is a really important game for me so I’m super hyped for a remake

    SuperSpruce, do gaming w What type of game do you want to play that doesn't really exist?

    Pokemon GO hit it uses the real Pokemon battling mechanics in all battles (including wild encounters) instead of the dumbed down system currently in use. Catching and even monetization can remain the same.

    marshadow, do gaming w I used to be concerned about a game being too short. Now I worry that it will be too long.

    Same. It seems like all games have gotten longer, and many want to be your one and only. Mostly I prefer VR games now, partly for that reason.

    Dominic, do gaming w I finally got a Switch! What now?

    Nintendo’s exclusives are where the Switch really shines. Unfortunately, they’re expensive. I’ll echo the DekuDeals recommendation for finding sales.

    Other Nintendo titles that are worthwhile, aside from the obvious Breath of the Wild and Tears of the Kingdom and depending on your tastes:

    • Super Mario Odyssey
    • Mario Kart 8
    • Super Smash Bros. Ultimate
    • Animal Crossing New Horizons
    • Splatoon 3 (2 is good too, but 3 is an improvement and more active)
    • Donkey Kong Country Tropical Freeze
    • Pikmin (the whole series)
    • Metroid Dread
    • Metroid Prime Remastered
    • Fire Emblem Three Houses
    • Pokemon Legends Arceus

    There are also tons of great indie games that play well on Switch (especially handheld):

    • Hades
    • Dead Cells
    • Hollow Knight
    • Slay the Spire
    • Into the Breach
    • Shovel Knight
    hotchurkey,

    I’ll add Stardew Valley for indie titles as well. I have hundreds of hours between both switch and PC, and the Switch is a great platform for it.

    limeaide,

    Katana Zero and Hotline Miami are also great games

    FlashMobOfOne, do gaming w I used to be concerned about a game being too short. Now I worry that it will be too long.
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  • specklespacle,

    this is a really terrible system. there are a lot of fantastic games that are short and more than $2.

    Almace,
    @Almace@kbin.social avatar

    I agree. A lot of it for me is the quality of the time spent. I'd rather pay $10 for high quality six hours of gameplay, then play $40 for 60 hours of gameplay but like 30 of those hours are very low quality.

    Ilflish,

    I’m not sure why this became popular. I’ll easily spend £8 to watch a 1.5 hour film so why would I limit myself on a game I could enjoy if it’s short. I just play games I think I’ll like. I’m not picking up a 100 hour multiplayer because it’s better value

    pli5k3n, do gaming w What type of game do you want to play that doesn't really exist?

    I’ve always wanted something that takes an RPG (JRPG a la Final Fantasy or Western RPG a la Fallout) where the economy is real and active. Like, if I go out and grind to get 9999 of some valuable resource and just dump it on some poor merchant in some tiny town and sell them all and buy all other resources, that should have a noticeable impact on the local economy. Or that there are trade routes between towns Town A specializes in weapons while Town B specializes in healing items. Then you can support them by facilitating trade between towns or you could “be evil” and create larger imbalances in market demand. I don’t know, it’s just a super nerdy idea.

    Obi,
    @Obi@sopuli.xyz avatar

    Reminded me of this sketch with your comment about the effects of dumping your grind on a local merchant: youtu.be/mYsyTq8pF2g

    spark947,

    Do you play mmos?

    pli5k3n,

    I don’t. But I guess I should clarify the market/economy be simulated for a single player (or optionally co-op) offline play.

    JCPhoenix, do gaming w Best "Lets Play" Series
    @JCPhoenix@beehaw.org avatar

    There’s a couple that I really enjoyed. I haven’t watched an LP in quite awhile.

    (Mater)Welonz’ “Judgment” LP is probably my favorite. She was thorough.

    I also like Christopher Odd’s (Mr. Odd) “Prey (2017)” LP.

    Coelacanth,
    @Coelacanth@feddit.nu avatar

    Welonz is fantastic in general. Always thoughtful and thorough and seems to approach whatever game she’s playing with great respect. She even did a watchable LP of Return of the Obra Dinn, which is extremely rare.

    I haven’t checked her channel in a few months because for a while she was doing mono-Dragon Age, but at a cursory glance it looks like she has a moved to a more varied upload schedule these days, which is good.

    megopie, do gaming w What type of game do you want to play that doesn't really exist?

    A real time RTS with proper command and control and fog of war. So like, you don’t have perfect information on where your units are, let alone enemy units, where you have to contact the units on the ground and request that kind of information, and also manage to communications system you’re using to maintain contact.

    Radio commander does something a lot like this but I’d like something a bit more in depth and comprehensive.

    felixworks,

    I like the idea of playing out the Byzantine generals problem in multiplayer or I guess with just another AI general too. Does Radio Commander have that element at all?

    megopie,

    Radio Commander has instantaneous communication with the units, it being over radio, and you’re only really interacting with your own units, sometimes you’ll operate near allied units in a mission and have to make sure your units properly identify contacts before engaging.

    But the core mechanics are that you’re sending out requests for information to units and orders to move and engage, but you cannot see where they are on the map, you can put markers down on the map, but like that’s just you best guess of their postion based on what coordinates they gave you. The coms basically always work perfectly, although there are options that will make it so units can get lost or make mistakes in their reports back to you.

    TheSaneWriter, do gaming w I used to be concerned about a game being too short. Now I worry that it will be too long.
    @TheSaneWriter@lemmy.thesanewriter.com avatar

    I don’t think I’m alone in this, but what I’m really wondering is if this is a result of getting older? Or is it because the gaming space itself has changed?

    Both. When you’re older you don’t have as much time to play video games so you want that time to be more meaningful and for the games you play to be more concise. In addition, a lot of games have added “hundreds” of hours of content by large and relatively empty open worlds that are full of worthless autogenerated side quests and collectible trinkets, which is undoubtedly a worse gameplay experience.

    Stillhart,

    a lot of games have added “hundreds” of hours of content by large and relatively empty open worlds that are full of worthless autogenerated side quests and collectible trinkets, which is undoubtedly a worse gameplay experience.

    coughDIABLO4cough

    prole,

    To me, enjoyability is completely separate from game length. It’s more about enjoyment per hour of gameplay imo.

    TurboHarbinger, do gaming w What are your favorite video games that force you to pull out the pen and paper?

    Subnautica forced me to draw a proper map. It was interesting.

    bionicjoey, do gaming w What are your favorite video games that force you to pull out the pen and paper?

    Return of the Obra Dinn

    JillyB,

    Came here to mention this. I had so many clues and mysteries I was trying to keep track of that I was regularly jotting down notes

    Coelacanth,
    @Coelacanth@feddit.nu avatar

    This was my first thought as well.

    I’m trying to put it in a way that won’t spoil clues for those who haven’t played it yet, but I ended up with plenty of notes and even took screenshots of the ship maps to scribble notes on.

    God I wish I could forget all about it and play it for the first time again.

    SamPond,
    @SamPond@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

    This was going to be mine as well. The fact that you don’t start to investigate the mystery in chronological order turned out to be quite a treat, as I need some way to organize my thoughts.

    Fantastic game, honestly, I’ve had quite a few good detective experiences the past few years that nearly perfected the genre to me.

    nac82, do gaming w I used to be concerned about a game being too short. Now I worry that it will be too long.

    As an older dude, I think it’s more about how people choose to live. I’m one of the DINK couples so the wife and I love gaming together.

    Both working full time, go on camping trips, play tennis, and still manage to be a part of a destiny clan who we have cleared all the raids with.

    We just beat Diablo 4 together (then dropped it due to the patch and garbage 1st season lol).

    I get how some people need more contained experiences, but I can not stand games that are too contained or basic.

    There are exceptions like party games (gang beasts, Mario party, etc), but for the most part I need my games to be engaging.

    I did a little bit of game development in college and have played games all my life, so sometimes I feel like I’m somewhat sensitive to certain designs. It’s hard to put into words, but a bad animation/game mechanic that might bother a different person like 2/10 might bother me more like an 8/10.

    Some mixture of the above information and my ADHD need for stimulation keeps me away from the smaller games.

    boatswain, do gaming w What are your favorite video games that force you to pull out the pen and paper?

    Secret World was a great modern horror MMO for a while there, and the investigation missions had some really complex puzzles that expected you do go online and do research into Egyptian dynasties and King James bible quotes and all kinds of other stuff. They dumbed down the amazing build system the game started with, but the core story skills still all be worth playing.

    JocularGargoyle,

    Oh, I’d forgotten about Secret World! It looks like it’s been updated to Secret World Legends – might have to give that a try.

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