At the hardware level yes, software, yes as long as you don’t mind repaying for something you bought previously (potentially) and also don’t mind it being unavailable a few years later.
While they’ve shut down online services for some of the older consoles, the backwards compatibility of the Xbox has always been excellent. I was playing Crimson Skies for the OG Xbox on my Series S a few weeks ago.
The pokemon teraleak sayd the switch 2 its basically a switch with better spects. Thqts Also why nintendo are taking down the emulators of switch now. Will be very easy to pirate switch 2 day one with thouse emulators.
Because it’s a shit company which seems to employ more lawyers than devs. Their lawyers routinely go after emulators, which hurts game preservation. They also go after fan projects a lot, which hurts the community.
as a major fan of classic video game emulation, I understand the conversation surrounding game preservation… but I draw the line at emulation of current gen games that are still actively being sold with hardware that you’re still easily able to purchase.
I can understand why nintendo may want to destroy and threaten anything that hosts software through unauthorized channels as well, as the biggest source of their income is gaming hardware and software. anything that threatens their main source of income will have the book thrown at them, wouldnt you do the same?
Check this quote out. if you were running a business, do you not see where they are coming from? I feel like their hands are tied:
You Can Lose Your IP Rights if Not Enforced If you don’t take adequate or sufficient, reasonable means to protect and enforce your IP, then you run the risk of losing your IP rights. What is sufficient and reasonable action is not always clear; it depends on the situation. But, suffice it to say, if you know someone is using your IP without your authorization, you should promptly look into it to determine what, if anything, should and needs to be done so that you don’t lose one of your most important business assets – your valuable intellectual property.
piracy of current gen games is what you’re against. As a consumer I should have the right to purchase a game (software) and do whatever the fuck I want with it, if I want to emulate Tears of the Kingdom because it runs and looks better on my computer than on my switch I should be allowed to do so. I purchased the console and the game, they’ve received my business, they should no longer have a say with what I do with my stuff.
Nintendo themselves use emulators for their products, there is nothing inherently wrong with emulation.
As a consumer I should have the right to purchase a game (software) and do whatever the fuck I want with it, if I want to emulate Tears of the Kingdom because it runs and looks better on my computer than on my switch I should be allowed to do so
Can I Download a ROM If I Own the Original Game? No, downloading ROMs from direct download sites, linking sites or other illegal sources, even when you own a copy of the video game, is not allowable under the Copyright Act.
But can’t I make a backup copy if I own the video game? You may be thinking of the backup/archival exception under the U.S. Copyright Act. There is some misinformation on the Internet regarding this backup/archival exception. This is a very narrow limitation that extends to computer software. Video games are comprised of numerous types of copyrighted works and should not be categorized as software only. Therefore, provisions that pertain to backup copies would not apply to copyrighted video game works and specifically ROM downloads, that are typically unauthorized and infringing.
so no, you cant just run it on whatever you want to, legally speaking. I think you should be able to do whatever you want with software, but its never been this way.
But can’t I make a backup copy if I own the video game? You may be thinking of the backup/archival exception under the U.S. Copyright Act. There is some misinformation on the Internet regarding this backup/archival exception. This is a very narrow limitation that extends to computer software. Video games are comprised of numerous types of copyrighted works and should not be categorized as software only. Therefore, provisions that pertain to backup copies would not apply to copyrighted video game works and specifically ROM downloads, that are typically unauthorized and infringing.
This statement is misleading and a lie. Computer software encompass video games as part of the legal definition outlined in Galoob v. Nintendo in 1992, which Nintendo lost in court. They do not have a legal leg to stand on. If someone wants to make an archival copy of a game they own physically, they can legally. The terms backup and archival are not interchangeable from a legal stance and Nintendo intentionally uses misleading language when answering the question.
Since we are going to take a deep dive on this, I attempted to read a Wikipedia article on this court case. I stopped reading after the second sentence since the top of the wikipedia article does not support your claim, at all.
The court determined that Galoob’s Game Genie did not violate Nintendo’s exclusive right to make derivative works of their games, because the Game Genie did not create a new permanent work.
the game genie did not create a new copy of a video game, an important distinction. what is a ROM if its not a new, permanent file and what does this court case have to do with my previous statement?
I was responding to the statement found currently on Nintendo’s website, the question Nintendo states, “But can’t I make a backup copy if I own the video game?” which you posted.
Nintendo makes the claim that making an archival copy of a physical game you own is not legal because video games do not fall under computer software,
“There is some misinformation on the Internet regarding this backup/archival exception. This is a very narrow limitation that extends to computer software.”
According to the court case I referenced, it in fact does just that. This court case clearly spells out that video games do fall under computer software and that they are subject to all of legal rights that go with it, your right to archive your physical copy of your game just like any other computer software, but this does not extend to making “backups” which Nintendo uses interchangeably with the term archive.
In legal terms backups are intended for short term storage and readily usable. An archive is intended with the purpose of long term storage and preservation of the software. Nintendo conflates the two and claims both are illegal, this is the problem. Not the subject of the court case mentioned, the court case I referenced is only to reinforce that the court recognized that video games fall under computer software and that § 117 of The Copyright Act of 1980 do give you that right. Here is a link to that section of the law.
No one is complaining about Nintendo’s developers, they’re complaining about Nintendo the company.
The company is garbage. Anti-consumer as hell, proactively fighting against video game preservation, bullying fans out of making passion projects, the list goes on.
Literally no one is mad at Nintendo for the games they make, they’re infuriated because they make great games while the company shits on its own legacy.
Although I’m not 100% ok with some of the things they do. I agree with you and I enjoy their games. I think the things most people complain about that Nintendo do pales in comparison to so many other games companies it’s not worth my breath. I’m here still having a nice time playing TotK or Advance Wars Reboot camp etc!
My final straw was giving takedowns to assets used in Garry’s Mod. Those uses are generally associated to pro-Nintendo artistic messaging, and don’t go towards any game piracy.
I decided from there I was done with Nintendo, haven’t given them a dime since. They need to downsize their law department before I consider them again.
Yeah, that kind of mocking is a direct attack at me, and I honestly like it because I feel like my weird achievement hunting is definitely mockable (especially because I already know how ridiculous I am and thus will not change in this respect)
I’m guessing this is from consumer pressure, until the Switch people definitely bought more physical copies of games and the minority of people got digital versions of DS/Wii-U games, but now so many people are using nintendo online and buying virtual copies people probably would not buy the next console if they had to buy the games they liked again.
I mean, Nintendo have often been fairly good with back compatibility.
If the architecture and form factor of physical media isn’t really changing, there’s not a lot of need to block older games from running.
They’re already on ARM, and there’s not much better for mobile gaming and GPUs have been fairly similar for a long time now.
The more interesting question is: will the Switch games get a performance boost on Switch 2? And it’s probably going to depend on the game. I’d imagine they’ll test a lot of the more popular titles, and anything with issues just gets it disabled until the developer patches it. It’d be nice to play TotK at a decent frame rate. Impressive as it is, it certainly chugs.
I would love to say this is going to flop, but in the States people pay $1k for telephones and $600+ for consoles and then pay a monthly fee to then use those devices.
Horizon Zero Dawn is my all time favorite game (a remastered version is coming out next week so might be a great time to jump in). Celeste is a 2D platformer and also really great. Been having fun with Zelda ToTK and Astrobot as well.
I loved HZD so much on PS4, it is a great world, really good sci-fi story and awesome character progression. It feels so good to easily take down machines that you struggle with at the beginning, it never gets old to tear off parts and weapons to use against them. The DLC for it was a great addition.
Needless to say I jumped into Horizon Forbidden West as soon as it was released, and it did not live up to my expectations! The second go around everything feels so forced, I gave up midway through.
Well said! And now on PS5 it plays so great at a smooth 60 fps, amazing stuff. I frequently start the game just to wander around and fight the machines. At ultra hard it can still be quite challenging even after all these hours.
The remaster seems to be really well done as well according to early reviews, so looking forward to putting even more hours into it :-) hope they made the inventory management better as that is basically my only issue with the original.
I do agree the first has the better vibe and story but I think you’d still enjoy finishing Forbidden West and the Burning Shores DLC. The ending was interesting and if you stopped halfway through you might not even have seen some of the new enemies yet! How far did you get?
Hey! I wanted to tell you that I came back to HFW after all due to your comment. I had logged 48 hours on it before I left, but was only 30% complete according to the PS5 dashboard.
I found that I liked the atmosphere, but it is definitely a slow game most of the time. So much filler dialogue between characters, puzzles are instantly spoiled by Aloy talking to herself way too soon before you’ve had a chance to work through them (God of War Ragnarok is also guilty of this).
And then there is the fact that Aloy will constantly put her life at risk at the slightest opportunity given by a stranger, even though story-wise she is literally the only one who can fix the Earth.
That being said I play the game in a particular way, I go through all missions (main or side) in the order of their level, and I tend to prefer the stealth approach to most fights. So this does slow down the game quite a bit. I think I am halfway through?
The overall vibe is really nice though, I might make it to the end this time. I’ve even put Burning Shores on my wish list!
Hey thanks for the response! Glad to hear it :) definitely agree about the puzzles being spoiled by Aloy, really weird how they implemented that without even an option to turn it off. I also thought it was strange how she gladly risks her life with the amount of stuff she’s trying to handle already, but it does make for a more interesting game I think. Overall the side quests are a bit more interesting and fleshed out than in zero dawn. Also the stash is a really welcome addition compared to the first one.
I think we play in a similar way, at least on a first playthrough I play like that. I also play the game without fast travel but that’s not for everyone :) hope you make it to the end! It definitely has me excited for Horizon 3.
I got the Horizon Zero Dawn Remaster last week as well, it’s really well done for a remaster and I’m enjoying a full new playthrough. On the way to Meridian now.
I need to hunt down HZD out of storage, looks like the disc must be in the drive to get the upgrade pricing for the remaster.
No fast travel, now that is some dedication :) I know it usually pays off to walk everywhere especially in the beginning (at the very least you pick up resources that you’ll need anyway), but sometimes I just don’t want to.
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