GTA is a crime story video game. “Dishonest gambling” doesn’t mean “gambling I don’t like”. A science-based dragon MMO Kickstarter is a grift. GTA 6 is a video game.
Are you unaware that there’s a component of GTA 6 besides GTA online? Even in the online mode, they’re milking gamers for weak content using regular gambling. A grift would be like a carnival game that appears winnable but actually never is. For your gambling money, you do get “stuff” in GTA 6, even if you or I would consider it a poor value. I don’t know why a shitty online mode would make me want to play a good crime story single player mode less, but the mere existence of the single player mode easily makes it more than “just” that.
I just think that if you’re going to call something a grift, it should actually be one, because words have meaning. We can call it all sorts of other things. “Predatory” is a good one. I myself called it “shitty”. That’s not arguing in favor of a giant corporation. You can’t just pick your favorite negative descriptor when it doesn’t apply.
Honestly, I’m not. Rockstar has changed their formula very little since 2008. But I don’t exactly have a lot of options for crime stories anymore, and they’ve been telling good stories for just as long as they’ve had this format.
What makes you say that? What sort of things could they add that would make it better for you? I for one, would love the content that’s in GTA online to be available in singleplayer.
You called it something it wasn’t, either because you misunderstood the definition or willfully misrepresented it. That was the argument. The game can be criticized in all sorts of ways, but “grift” makes no sense here, assuming they’re doing what GTA V did and didn’t come up with some crazy new scheme that hasn’t been detailed yet. And even if the online mode was a deterrent to you, there’s a whole other part of the game above and beyond the online mode where you never have to even see that stuff that could make the game worth playing, meaning it wouldn’t be “just” a grift.
remember: people who have something to complain about will post much more frequently. since the fediverse is smaller, these types of comments are found more frequently
Don’t get it either, maybe it also something to do with lemmys demographic being older. ( I believe that is the case with Mastodon vs. Twitter ) Sure it is sad that the planed single-player content was scraped for multiplayer ( even though i had lots of fun with the multiplayer as well, at least in its early days. ) But why crying about VI when it hasnt been released yet? Just see when it comes out…
The multi-player maybe. But they’ve consistently delivered excellent single-player experiences with their flagship titles. GTA 3, VC, SA, IV, and V were all amazing. RDR1 was spectacular, and RDR2 may be the most impressive game I’ve ever played.
At this point, I trust Tockstar to deliver a good single-player game. I don’t really expect much in the way of the quality DLC we got with GTAIV and RDR, but I think the base game will easily be enough for me to justify a purchase.
I’m still gonna wait and see, of course. They’re not getting a pre-order out of me.
I’d agree with everything about the previous games. However, I think they made 10 billion dollars off of GTA online and wouldn’t be surprised if they focus more on that and leave the single player to the wayside.
They’ve both been propped up by pay-to-win bullshit online games that have diluted the formula. I remember when GTA V was new (ish) and while the controls took some getting used to, and some of the minigames were bullshit (Rockstar games have wonky controls), the game was fun as hell. Zero interest in the online stuff. It never appealed to me. I did try Elder Scrolls Online, and also Fallout 76. This online shit makes them money, it’s a surprise they’re even bothering with a GTA VI. The next GTA Online is really what they should be focused on (though I’ll always root for the single player games). After the last couple Fallouts and Starfield, I don’t even have any hope for Elder Scrolls VI. GTA VI at least looks like it might actually be good. But screw paying $100 for it.
I’m out of the loop with GTA VI, but the last I knew of it the only thing they’d released was a cinematic, non-gameplay trailer. Have they released gameplay now?
Because once you finished the story there’s really not much sidemission for you to play, and the world suddenly feel very empty without the excellent characters. I quit the same way.
6 is never going to live up to the hype and will be riddled with micro transactions and GaaS shoved up its ass.
Stop paying attention to what the big corporations are pumping out. Go play something made my people that give a shit about the game and not the “potential revenue” it might create.
Glad you’re getting upvoted for this. Every time I mention how outdated RDR2 felt at launch, I get downvoted. But it’s true. For a game about an outlaw, you sure have to follow a lot of rules to play the game as the developers intended.
Man, I tried multiple times to get into RDR2. I really want to like it, and I love RDR. But my god that game feels like a job with all the small things you need to remember to do.
Man, even the gun system annoyed me. I’m fine with them having like 4 slots or whatever it was for weapons, but I remember so many times riding to a mission on my horse, selecting the guns I wanted to use and after like 50 feet Arthur would decide “welp, I’m not using these guns, better shove em back in my horse” leadong me to not having a gun ready at the start of a mission. I think that was the straw the broke the camels back for me, just hold the guns I selected Arthur.
Couldn’t agree more, the weapon system is incredibly frustrating too. I solved that problem simply by using a trainer to mod all the weapons to have the same stats. That way I can just use whatever gun Arthur grabs and not worry about it.
I’ve literally purchased a Xbox series X for this game, moved to and moved back from south Florida and it’s still not out…I can imagine this is live up to expectations but I also can’t imagine it won’t live up to expectations…
Though it was a completely different game than what we’ve come to know as GTA V after the PC release, in terms of graphics and content. And even then I remember grabbing snacks to watch the loading screen…
I refuse to entertain the idea of PS3 being retro until at least next year, when it turns 20. Now you might say “okay then, GTA V also came out on Xbox 360, which turns 20 in about 2 months” to which I say… get off my lawn!
I think GTA 6 will be an outstanding game, but I also think it will be Rockstar’s greediest release to date. I will make sure to consider everything before I buy it.
As greedy as GTA V was with its multiplayer, Rockstar has a history of releasing a good single player base game before they start with that, and looking as GTA VI leaked map, I don’t see that changing now. It’ll definitely be nothing more than a single player experience for me though.
Plus, were might have to wait one or two years to play it on PC, especially on Linux, so there’s a lot of time for considerations…
The problem with V for me was that they released content for GTA Online for years and completely ignored singleplayer. So many heists, weapons, vehicles, outfits, and game mechanics that would have been awesome to try solo, but were only available with a damn internet connection and in a world with other players. Thankfully mods fixed some of that. But it’s not the same because you mostly have to spawn things in with a cheat menu.
When used properly it makes sense. But there are only rare occasions when that is appropriate. So instead everyone just uses it all the time and so no one really understands when it should be used. Dumb.
To continue this logic, if “nobody” says nothing it could be construed as the start of the conversation, implying the subject came to the conclusion without prompting or context
It’s a fantastic documentary; as an LA native, I recommend playing through the story to better understand our diverse culture of shallow rich folks, inner city gents, and meth-addled drug countrymen.
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