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stsquad, do games w Games that force you to make hard choices

Wasteland 3 has a number of mutually incompatible outcomes that force you to decide how things will end up.

Pxtl, do games w Games that force you to make hard choices
@Pxtl@lemmy.ca avatar

Civ Beyond Earth has the neat approach that it replaces the old “build a spaceship to alpha Centauri” with three different technological endings each with different moral implications. The game is about human transcendence so any ending is going to be about changing humanity.

The problem is that the game itself is not one of the better entries in the Civ series otherwise.

Marsupial,
@Marsupial@quokk.au avatar

Ah please tell me you’ve played Alpha Centauri.

Pxtl,
@Pxtl@lemmy.ca avatar

Yes, many many many years ago. Beyond Earth is the palest of pale imitation.

Ashtear, do games w Games that force you to make hard choices

I find games that have genuine path branching to be most satisfying for me in the “choices matter” department. Some games that come to mind for this are Tactics Ogre Reborn (or the PSP version), The Witcher 2, Triangle Strategy, and Baldur’s Gate 3.

There are others that have interesting decisions (especially ending/late-game ones) like Deus Ex, The Witcher 3, and Life is Strange, but I’m not sure if those quite have the scope you’re looking for.

Shard, do games w Games that force you to make hard choices

Mass Effect 3.

Choosing between the 3 primary colors was the toughest choice of my life.

Marsupial,
@Marsupial@quokk.au avatar

God damnit.

I’d completely forgotten about that shit. What a let down after a years long multi game play through.

Every choice made in every game led to none of it mattering.

LanternEverywhere, do games w Games that force you to make hard choices

Sounds pretty much exactly like real life

Coelacanth, do games w Many players have become "patient gamers". What are games people might miss out on by waiting for sales?
@Coelacanth@feddit.nu avatar

In addition to this there is also occasionally the case where playing an extremely popular game right at launch lets you participate in the zeitgeist in a way you can’t really do if you wait a year and a half for a sale. I imagine whether this matters to you is extremely subjective, but I remember this being a big thing for me with both Elden Ring and BG3; being able to participate in discussions and discovery at the point in time when not everything about the game has been mapped out. Watercooler talk or chatting on Discord with others and sharing your respective findings during that early time when the Wikis aren’t filled in yet.

Ashtear,

While that’s true, specifically avoiding the zeitgeist (read: hype) is the stated goal for patient gaming communities (at least the ones on Reddit and here on Lemmy at !patientgamers). It’s why people pay too much for games that are released unfinished in the first place. And there’s always a popular game out or right around the corner.

HipsterTenZero, do games w What's your favorite game that you will NEVER finish?
@HipsterTenZero@dormi.zone avatar

I like skyrim, but completing it is kind of missing the point IMO. The draw is to install a whole bunch of new mods and see if the game still works.

Sabata11792,
@Sabata11792@kbin.social avatar

I probably spent longer trying to get mods to work than actually playing the game.

Ashtear, do games w Many players have become "patient gamers". What are games people might miss out on by waiting for sales?

Owning physical editions of games can be a problem for patient gamers. As digital distribution continues to expand (even in previously resistant markets such as Japan), we’re again getting to a point where pre-orders may be necessary if you want a physical copy for small releases.

NIS America has also increased prices on their games, although, unlike Factorio, they have sales. Also unlike Factorio, they don’t spout nonsense like “inflation” for the increase. That doesn’t track on a game that already has virtually zero marginal cost and sunk development costs now that development has moved to a paid expansion. Dude would have been better off just announcing the increase and keeping his mouth shut on the rest.

curiousPJ, (edited ) do games w Valve issues DMCA takedown for "Team Fortress: Source 2"

Valve seems okay with TF2 mods on the older engine… See tf2classic.com

I feel like the TF2Classic ran into dmca issues earlier in their dev cycle as well.

Edit: yes they did twitter.com/tf2classic/…/1436328611485818880

Deiv,

Is tf2classic any good? I loved tf2, but the bots just made it unplayable

queue, do games w Valve issues DMCA takedown for "Team Fortress: Source 2"
@queue@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

I just wish Valve wasn’t pulling a Nintendo and not aiding the fans of a game they care about, instead of just sitting on it and claiming they are doing all they can for it.

How long has it been since we were promised a major update after Jungle Inferno? How long since Valve promised community fixes? How long since Valve delayed it with “we’re working hard on making it next update”? How long did Valve say they heard the community loud and clear about the bot crisis?

TF2 is my all time favorite game, but it’s no longer really playable in 2024. Casual servers are infested with bots, and there’s been no major changes to the game since 2017. I wish Valve cared about the game as much as the community still does dozens of years later.

MaxVoltage,
@MaxVoltage@lemmy.world avatar

why do peopoe bot?

berg,

To get in-game drops as far as I know.

Carighan,
@Carighan@lemmy.world avatar

Not all games need to be officially supported forever, tbh.

You can easily run your own server for it, so like UT99 or so, fans can form communities and play.

Basically, I’d rather them put effort into a Team Fortress 3, even though I know that’s of course utopian given we never got an HL3 either.

sosodev,

If they don’t want to support it that’s fine but they should stop releasing new micro transactions then

stoly,

They most certainly made a decision based on priorities and TF2 wasn’t a big enough one for them to jump on. If there were enough users who would pay clamoring for it, they’d move.

stoly, do games w Valve issues DMCA takedown for "Team Fortress: Source 2"

Making a Portal mod is much different than possessing and using the original source code of a game. I don’t understand why they thought they could get away with such a high-profile title as TF.

Katana314, do games w Many players have become "patient gamers". What are games people might miss out on by waiting for sales?

The specific game that gave me the idea for this post was Freedom Planet 2. I remember getting the original as part of one of the early Humble Bundles, and enjoyed it, but never felt compelled to try the sequel.

Something I’ve been missing is having more game stories with fully “melodramatic” character acting - where character A is gasping in tears over the injuries to character B, and won’t ever forgive ruthless villain Y. That was something I remembered FP1 for, for better or worse, and apparently from reviews they improved their craft a bit for the sequel.

mesamunefire,

FP2 was a fantastic game. I loved it. I also liked Crosscode and Coromon. Both have the pixel look that I love and both were fun to me.

WarmSoda, do games w Valve issues DMCA takedown for "Team Fortress: Source 2"

Portal 2 isn’t an ongoing live online multiplayer game with in game purchases.

Kolanaki,
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Seeing the down votes I have to say this: He has a point here. TF2 is a F2P game that generates its revenue these days from marketplace and key transactions. If someone were to remake the entire game and it was allowed to release, it would most assuredly damage TF2’s revenue. A mod for Portal 2 has more potential to generate revenue because anyone interested in the mod that doesn’t currently own Portal 2, would have to buy the game.

At the end of the day, Valve is still a business. This news sucks for people who love playing games, but is entirely not unexpected.

sosodev,

Is it right to push more gambling based micro transactions in a game that lacks actual support?

If this were any other company people would be raging

Kolanaki,
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If this were any other company people would be raging

If this were any other company, I’d be saying the same thing. Nintendo shuts down shit left and right; most of them are mods for games that the only way to use the mods is via emulation. And it’s a lot easier to pirate a game for that than it is to dump one you own legitimately.

It’s certainly within their right to protect their shit. The ethics and morality of what that shit happens to be is irrelevant to the copyright discussion.

Also: TF2 is still supported… It still receives regular updates. It had one on the 9th.

sosodev, (edited )

Those “updates” are pitiful. As far as I understand the vast majority of update content is still being supplied by the community. The game is still flooded by hackers with no word on when that will be addressed if ever.

thesporkeffect, do games w Many players have become "patient gamers". What are games people might miss out on by waiting for sales?

Project Zomboid is in this category

Kaldo, do gaming w 5+ man group games
@Kaldo@beehaw.org avatar

I’d suggest valheim but I’m not sure how is the performance nowadays, our rented servers struggled a lot with only 3-4 people and I think 10 is the max. Sailing was especially very laggy and glitchy because if it unfortunately.

HumbleFlamingo,

The issue with Valheim is it’s not really a dedicated server. It’s more of a shared saved game repository.

Whoever gets to a region first is the host, and everyone nearby connects to them. If that person has a slow machine, or high latency to the other players it can be really painful. When I was playing with friends, we banned one person from entering dungeons first because they had the worst computer in the group and it was really bad for the rest of us. Same thing with our main base, if they wound up the host, they’d disconnect and log back in so someone else would become host.

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