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jmcs, do gaming w I hate the term "Boomer Shooter"

We were calling them Doom-clones before FPS became a thing, maybe it’s time to bring it back as a sub category.

LunarLoony,
@LunarLoony@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

Doom clones!

BmeBenji,

Not a bad idea, but like which DOOM?

I ask that sarcastically, but 90’s DOOM, 00’s DOOM, and 10-20s DOOM all play very differently lol

jmcs,

Any of them would be more accurate than Boomer shooter.

ech,

Appending “-like” to any genre is so unoriginal and uninteresting.

GBU_28,

It isn’t intended to be interesting

ech,

That’s abundantly clear.

GBU_28,

The burn you think you are deploying, to a casual categorical label and those who use it, is not very effective.

ech,

It’s an observation, not a “burn”.

GBU_28,

If you observed it to be abundantly clear you wouldn’t have made your original comment.

ech,

Speak for yourself. I comment on obvious things all the time.

pendulous, do games w Best sidequests in the Fallout games?

The hubologists in 2 was pretty funny. Also, blowing up the outhouse.

RiikkaTheIcePrincess, do gaming w I hate the term "Boomer Shooter"
@RiikkaTheIcePrincess@pawb.social avatar

Maybe it works if read as “games made by boomers?” … Yeah I have no idea how old anyone was/is. Time and I don’t really get along 🤷

Also, going along with a thing I’ve been seeing in these comments, I’m idly curious as to whether anyone who isn’t a Boomer cares about use/misuse/abuse of the term “Boomer” 🤔

SimplyTadpole,
@SimplyTadpole@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

From what I’ve seen, Boomer Shooters were actually often developed by Gen Xers (and played by Millennials), and both of them despise being lumped with the boomers - hence why they dislike the term :p

RiikkaTheIcePrincess,
@RiikkaTheIcePrincess@pawb.social avatar

I guess that makes sense. I’d be upset if critters kept associating me with boomers 😼 I don’t play those so I guess I just haven’t been around the term enough to get a feel for it.

Coelacanth, do gaming w I hate the term "Boomer Shooter"
@Coelacanth@feddit.nu avatar

It’s so curious, I swear I heard “boomer shooter” used to refer to another type of FPS… But then again I guess the definition has changed. What term do people use nowadays for slow FPSes that are more tactical, rather than twitch-reflex reliant, like ARMA?

bermuda,

Those are tactical shooters. If it’s a simulator like ARMA then the term “milsim” (military simulator) is also used. Good example of a non-ARMA tactical shooter would be Ready or Not, Squad, Insurgency, or S.W.A.T

Coelacanth,
@Coelacanth@feddit.nu avatar

Makes sense. And I have heard those terms before. I guess i just need to update my internal definition. All this time I thought boomer shooter meant “slow FPS for old folks who can’t keep up in Valorant anymore”. Which is a group I probably belong to myself, to be honest.

bermuda,

Oh no boomer shooter means very fast FPS, it just has old-school mechanics like health packs, a large loadout, arena-style gameplay, stuff like that. Things that were considered outdated when games like Battlefield and COD rolled around in the mid 2000s. Like you’re not supposed to take cover in DOOM, but you are in Battlefield.

Renacles, do games w Best sidequests in the Fallout games?

Wasteland survival guide and the mechanist quest are some of my favorites but Fallout 3 has fantastic side quests in general.

Fallout 2, 3 and New Vegas are basically a pile of side quests with an optional main story.

bionicjoey,

Wasteland Survival Guide combined with the evil ending for the Megaton bomb quest is one of my favourite bits in Fallout 3.

ULS, do gaming w I hate the term "Boomer Shooter"

Who says boomer shooter?

onlooker,
@onlooker@lemmy.ml avatar

It feels like everybody, here are just a few examples. And if that doesn’t cut it for you, Steam has a whole-ass tag for boomer shooters.

Telorand,

Man, this is the first time I’ve heard that term. But then, I don’t play anything in this genre anymore, so maybe it’s just by virtue of the fact that I’m out of that space almost entirely.

skulblaka,
@skulblaka@startrek.website avatar

There’s been a big revival of that genre over the last 10 years or so and I think Boomer Shooter was adopted as a way to differentiate it from your standard FPS. Turbo Overkill is very different from Borderlands which is very different from COD. You’ll need a way to communicate that difference if you want fans to buy your game.

Telorand,

That’s cool. Always neat to see things come back but with the modern understanding of game theory.

4am,

I mean it became a tag on steam it’s so common. “Retro-style FPS” doesn’t roll off the tongue quite as easily. Boomer = Baby Boomer generation (or close to it) where the engineers making the things; so while it’s not entirely accurate of the dev demographic of the day, “the things people who are now old used to make” is the meaning. Boomer is also like “boom” because there big loud guns, big loud sfx, ridiculous explosions, etc.

Why does this have to be a point of contention? No fun allowed? What is this, Nintendo?

ursakhiin,

As for why it might be a point of contention with many millennials.

My best guess is we’ve spent years being accused of doing things by boomers who didn’t know that Gen Z was a thing and now it feels like we are being lumped in with Boomers because Gen Z can’t be bothered to learn that more than one generation camr before them.

For Gen X it may just be that they constantly feel forgotten and want to be known.

wirelesswire, do games w Best sidequests in the Fallout games?
@wirelesswire@kbin.run avatar

For Fallout 4, in no particular order:
Troubled Waters
Pickman's Gift
Here There be Monsters
The Big Dig
Last Voyage of the U.S.S Constitution
Hole in the Wall
Silver Shroud
Cabot House
Spectacle Island - while not a quest, this is a good settlement area if you're into settlement building

A bit off topic, but if you have access to mods, there are some great quest mods for Fallout 4. I didn't do much with modding for 3 or NV.

MacedWindow,
@MacedWindow@lemmy.world avatar

I’m planning to play 4 on steam deck so I’ll be able to mod at least a bit

CubbyTustard, do games w Best sidequests in the Fallout games?

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  • MacedWindow,
    @MacedWindow@lemmy.world avatar

    Oh I just walked by there! Ill go back and check it out

    Transporter_Room_3, do gaming w I hate the term "Boomer Shooter"
    @Transporter_Room_3@startrek.website avatar

    TIL the term Boomer Shooter exists.

    Cmor, do games w Best sidequests in the Fallout games?
    @Cmor@lemmy.world avatar

    I did the Mechanist quest line in 3 for the first time recently, not sure how I missed it on my first playthrough in 2008. Like with the Silver Shroud quests in 4, I just love the over the top retro comic book vides.

    MacedWindow,
    @MacedWindow@lemmy.world avatar

    I’ve got Charon wearing the Mechanist suit and I’m wearking the ant villain one. Its the ultimate team up!

    Zehzin,
    @Zehzin@lemmy.world avatar

    I have my problems with Fallout 3, but that mission and “You Gotta Shoot Them in the Head” (which gets bonus points for having a secret outcome that’s not explicitly mentioned and comes up organically and involves breaking into a heavily armed military compound) are some of the best quests in the series.

    Dangdoggo, do gaming w I hate the term "Boomer Shooter"

    If it helps try thinking of it as a "boomer shooter" because of the proliferation of rockets and rocket physics in classic games like Unreal and Quake

    DrJenkem, do gaming w I hate the term "Boomer Shooter"
    @DrJenkem@lemmy.blugatch.tube avatar

    Ok Boomer.

    Shurimal, do gaming w I hate the term "Boomer Shooter"

    Oldskool FPS. There. That's the correct term. Now, who's up for some DM-Morpheus with instagib mutator?🤘

    Tubulous,

    …and volatile ammo. I’m in.

    520, do gaming w I hate the term "Boomer Shooter"

    I call them id-style shooters myself, but there is a bit of word play I like in the term 'boomer shooter'. On top of referencing the age of the audience when they first arrived (albeit incorrectly), it is also a reference to the fact that the optimal strategy for these games is simply to blow things the fuck up. There is very little tactical play beyond what weapons to use for a given situation, and these games really love their explosive barrels and rocket launchers.

    PatheticGroundThing, do gaming w I hate the term "Boomer Shooter"

    Worth noting that the boomer wojak meme started as “That 30 year old boomer”. It was never about actual Baby Boomers.

    honey_im_meat_grinding,

    This is it, notice how Google Trends[1] shows a rise in “30 year old boomer” not long before “boomer shooter” becomes more commonplace. It’s just the whole applying “boomer” to things like being stuck in their ways or boomer-like behavior, rather than age, that took off a few years back.

    [1] trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=all&geo=US&…

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