you missed the Hopes Others Will Do The Same part.
they’re pulling their game as part of the larger BDS boycott. the point is to put pressure on complicit companies (in this case microsoft) for them to stop working with israel
the IDF won’t care, but if enough devs pull their games, and if enough people stop using xbox products & services, microsoft will care.
It is my opinion that the left should actually be backing Israel and not Palestine. Palestine leadership would kill you where you stand for your beliefs. And has far more in common with the religious right here in America
Boycott when doom darkk ages just came out are you insane?
Never heard of this little developer or his game. Won’t be missing it either
Your opinion is bad and you should feel bad. Palestine leadership may not be great (or even good), but at least they’re not actively carrying out a genocide.
but at least they’re not actively carrying out a genocide.
It’s simply because they aren’t able to. Look man, Israel is undoubtedly carrying out a genocide and Netanyahu is war criminal who should be given a death sentence for the things he has done. But Israel at least pretends to be good. But if Palestine had the kind of military backing Israel does, Israel would simply not exist on the map today. And the Palestinians would be openly celebrating over the dead bodies of Israeli people.
But if Palestine had the kind of military backing Israel does, Israel would simply not exist on the map today. And the Palestinians would be openly celebrating over the dead bodies of Israeli people.
What is this based on? Like, could you (by any means) back up this claim?
I hadn’t seen it before, and I can definitely understand why its content is disturbing.
Granted, as I’m unable to understand the context beyond what AP themselves have provided, I’ll (for the sake of the argument) accept this as Palestinians celebrating an attack on the US.
Then, my initial intention was to dissect the argument and explain why I can’t agree with your extrapolation^[That is, “But if Palestine had the kind of military backing Israel does, Israel would simply not exist on the map today. And the Palestinians would be openly celebrating over the dead bodies of Israeli people.”]. However, to my surprise, your extrapolation might not be as far-fetched as I initially thought 😅. But, this ultimately depends on what you mean precisely. So, please allow me to ask further clarifications:
With “Israel would simply not exist on the map today.”, what do you mean exactly? Like, what would come in its place? What would become of the Israeli people?
With “And the Palestinians would be openly celebrating over the dead bodies of Israeli people.”, do you mean something similar like we see on the footage? Or something more grandiose? (And perhaps more sinister?)
Firstly, I’m glad we can have a civil discourse on this topic rather than resorting to personal attacks and namecalling. I also appreciate the fact that you seem like someone who actually wants to get to the truth rather than defending your stance no matter what.
accept this as Palestinians celebrating an attack on the US.
You’re right. The people in the video are in fact publicly celebrating the 9/11 attacks which took the lives of thousands of innocent people. As you can see, it’s not just grown ass men who are celebrating, but children and women too. If this is the level of hatred they have towards the United States, do I really need to explain how severe their hatred for Israel would be?
Like, what would come in its place?
That’s an easy question to answer. There would be one country and it would be called Palestine.
do you mean something similar like we see on the footage? Or something more grandiose?
I honestly don’t know. But they will be celebrating. And they will want the whole world to see them celebrating. That’s for sure.
Again I want to be very clear that I’m not an Israeli sympathizer. I’m just trying to make a point that the Palestinians aren’t the saints that the liberals (btw I’m a liberal myself) often portray them to be.
Your reply is much appreciated, fam! Unfortunately, I wasn’t able to return right away. I thank you for your patience! Btw, I’m not native. So, if I misuse any terms/words/phrases or whatnot; my apologies. Usually, I put in some significant effort to alleviate this. Sadly, I didn’t quite have the chance to do so this time. Thank you for your understanding!
Firstly, I’m glad we can have a civil discourse on this topic rather than resorting to personal attacks and namecalling. I also appreciate the fact that you seem like someone who actually wants to get to the truth rather than defending your stance no matter what.
Thanks fam for the compliments! Your engagement is (I think) (at least) equally commendable!
You’re right. The people in the video are in fact publicly celebrating the 9/11 attacks which took the lives of thousands of innocent people. As you can see, it’s not just grown ass men who are celebrating, but children and women too. If this is the level of hatred they have towards the United States, do I really need to explain how severe their hatred for Israel would be?
Btw, I understood the implied context of the footage. But, it would be intellectually dishonest if I didn’t take into account the framing at hand. Cuz, if we were to be very critical of the footage itself (so without AP’s provided text as guidance), then there’s nothing explicitly there that connects those celebrations to the 9/11 killings; no burning of American flags or anything that would imply it. Granted, I assume neither of us speak Arabic. So that doesn’t help either 😅.
Just to be clear, I’m well aware that this story is pretty much uncontested^[I did find this, but it seems to be a biased take.]. So I’m not actually disputing it. But, with the benefit of hindsight^[That is, the eventual wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.], it’s hard to completely deny any ulterior motives for broadcasting said celebrations.
And to push back: is it sociologically-speaking strange for them to be glad that the biggest support of their rivals has received a retribution?
That’s an easy question to answer. There would be one country and it would be called Palestine.
History has indeed taught us that that^[Nation states only exist since relatively recently. So, there has never been a Palestinian state or something. However, Muslim rule has dictated over those lands. My reading of history informs me that while Jews definitely weren’t first-class citizens, they were fortunately not persecuted like we saw in other parts of the world.]'s a pretty likely outcome. But, I was also curious to hear your take on the other question. Namely, “What would become of the Israeli people?”.
But they will be celebrating.
Likely indeed.
And they will want the whole world to see them celebrating. That’s for sure.
Again I want to be very clear that I’m not an Israeli sympathizer. I’m just trying to make a point that the Palestinians aren’t the saints that the liberals (btw I’m a liberal myself) often portray them to be.
If sainthood is achieved through suffering alone, then I’d argue they would make a good chance. But yeah, I get where you’re hinting at.
But, with the benefit of hindsight[2], it’s hard to completely deny any ulterior motives for broadcasting said celebrations.
AP is one of the most factual and unbiased news media out there. And the clip I shared just proves that. There was ZERO commentary accompanying it. It was just pure reporting of what actually happened. I mean the only other thing they could have done is simply not post the video. And would it be fair reporting if they intentionally suppressed the video?
is it sociologically-speaking strange for them to be glad that the biggest support of their rivals has received a retribution?
That’s a fair question. But 9/11 wasn’t a military war in which the US lost its soldiers or politicians who were responsible for war in the middle east. It was a cowardly suicide attack that took the lives of working innocent people who had absolutely nothing do with America’s actions in the middle east. And celebrating that is in no way justifiable.
What would become of the Israeli people?”
Probably die fighting or migrate as refugees to other countries
If sainthood is achieved through suffering alone, then I’d argue they would make a good chance.
It’s just sad that we live in a time that is more polarized than ever. Very few are actually interested in the truth. Most just want to stick to their prejudiced opinions no matter what and I see this in both the left and the right.
If anything, this seems targeted to the less avid gaming enthusiasts who would be interested in playing some games, but couldn’t see themselves buying a console.
I used to find XCloud’s portability a nice thing, until they increased the subscription fees. To my knowledge, you can’t even get cloud access unless you get GP Ultimate.
Oh, and let’s not forget these are the people that fired the developers of GOTY Hi-Fi Rush.
So I guess Aftermath is the new Kotaku? Theyre hiring all the people that used to work there, and Kotaku didn’t exactly have the best reputation lately. I don’t see Aftermath’s angle where they think things will be better for them.
Aftermath was started by a bunch of people that left or were fired by Kotaku to start with (I don’t remember which), so it makes sense they would hire others who came from a similar situation
Having skimmed through this article, the article actually sucks. Like, actually.
Why would game demos set unrealistic expectations? That’s only the case if they spent 90% of dev time in the first 10% of the game and use that as the demo. This happens, but this is bad design, this is not a case of a demo hurting a game.
I remember playing the Metal Gear Solid Peace Walker demo a long time ago and it did not spoil the story (which is a big aspect for MGS), it did not take away from the experience, and it introduced me to some of the fundamental mechanics of the game.
A more recent example is perhaps the demo of Enotria: Last Song. Do you think I know the lore and story just by playing the demo? No. Did it introduce me to the core mechanics of masks and a few other things? Yes. Was it good to get player feedback and fix bugs? Hell yeah. Sure, you might not like the game, but that doesn’t change the fact that the demo had a successful impact i.e. it gave both parties (us and the studio) a significantly better understanding.
Don’t put peak content in the demo and it will result in it actually playing like a demo.
Design the game with the demo in mind, don’t make it an afterthought. Demos are very valuable and I’m sure lots of gamers pirate games before buying them, instead of actually buying them, because 2 hours for a Steam refund just isn’t enough! I spent around 6 hours playing the Enotria demo (just for 1 complete playthrough). Why so many? I had to familiarise myself with the mechanics, switched between keyboard and mouse multiple times, tried to see why I was getting frame rate drops despite my RTX 4070 renderring at 1080p 120 fps.
**Game demos do not hurt a game! ** Abusing game demos as purely a form of marketing by making false promises or setting false expectations hurt the game.
This is not exclusive to a game either. Consider a recent release like Elden Ring, absolutely massive map, they did not try to over-sell it. They said it’s around 30 hours of content iirc. You can hurt this game with social media, with interviews, with false trailers, with many things.
TLDR; Angry old man starts raging about “back in my day we had game demoz”.
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