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thesporkeffect, w Public Ownership of Rail Is on the Agenda. Here’s What It Could Look Like.

Nationalize it

HerbalGamer,
@HerbalGamer@sh.itjust.works avatar

And make it free.

PowerCrazy,

Free for passenger service, paid for freight service. Passenger Service always has priority.

mercano, w Public Ownership of Rail Is on the Agenda. Here’s What It Could Look Like.
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Separate infrastructure and operations. Nationalize the infrastructure, allow private companies to pay to operate over it, but place limits on things like train length and require regular inspection of the rolling stock using the national infrastructure. Basically, adopt an infrastructure & regulation system similar to that trucks operate under.

shalafi,

Perfect! Just like the interstate highway system, one of the smartest and most successful initiatives in American history. And like the interstates, this is a solid investment of our tax dollars.

Let the private operators fight over pricing, both for commercial and private use. That’s a win for everyone, and the environment.

If I could hop a train to New Orleans and just chill for a few hours, I sure as hell wouldn’t drive. People like me could move around, stimulating economies far from home. That in turn would drive cities to invest in infrastructure, give people a reason to visit.

DrBob, w How do I learn a freight trains schedule?
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I don’t know what it’s like where you live, but as rule, who knows? There are scheduled trains which are notoriously unreliable, but also unscheduled trains. Basically whenever there is enough cargo to justify a train it gets put out on the tracks and they move it when they can. Caveat: this is for Canada and is largely based on info from some former neighbors who were conductors and brakemen.

My sympathy to your cats.

yokonzo, (edited )

So real shit they don’t track freight trains? That seems kind of inefficient if I’m honest.

Then again I’m not a train professional so what do I know

Album,
@Album@lemmy.ca avatar

Freight is definitely tracked but not necessarily scheduled in regular intervals. This is true for both trains and ships. Like it costs so much and the world isn’t always that consistent.

But yeah like cp/cn/CSX/ns/BNSF etc all know what’s on their lines and where.

However these lines are fully private unlike aviation so there is no requirement to publically provide any data.

For planes position data doesn’t even come from the airline but a govt mandated transponder that communicates on public frequency on the aircraft and private websites use a network of recieving radios donated or not spread across the world to provide the public with a service they also try to profit off of. This doesn’t exist for trains as far as I know. And I don’t think for ships either.

davel,
@davel@lemmy.ml avatar

Well that puts a wrinkle in my train heist.

DrBob,
@DrBob@lemmy.ca avatar

They track them, but they’re not all scheduled. If there is enough cargo there they put on a “special” and they will move it between the scheduled trains. Train scheduling and tracking is an art unto itself.

collapse_already, w Another American railcar chemical leak: White House urges Ohio residents to heed calls to evacuate

Well, looks like Donald’s deregulation of the railroads is continuing to pay dividends.

fpslem,

I’ll blame the former guy all day long for his failings, but the Staggers Act deregulated the railroad industry in 1980, and was signed by Jimmy Carter. This mess has been a long time coming.

collapse_already,

In 2018, Trump rescinded an Obama era rule that required hazardous waste train cars to have pneumatic brakes intended to prevent derailments.

Gieselbrecht, w California’s new electric train makes for a shockingly better trip—we tried it

It’s funny to read this article painting electric trains as a great novelty, when the majority of trains in western Europe (excluding certain island states) have been electric for decades. But good for california, sounds like a nice improvement!

XeroxCool,

Or that the Northeast Corridor (DC>Philly>NYC>Boston) is all electrified and has the fastest passenger train on the continent (Amtrak Acela can do 150mph, soon to be replaced with a 165mph variant that can do like +30 in turns). And that NJ Transit on that line (following US 1 and I-95) is electric along that massive population concentration. But yeah, good for California. I get it, running power is a really expensive project but at least this section goes back at least as far as the GG1 loco days.

ChicoSuave,

America is a petrostate that uses diesel and coal for most industrial purposes and trains have usually been used as cargo movers and not people movers, so they usually use diesel.

fpslem,

I just loved seeing electric rail referred to in a positive manner, and to see the benefits (speed! quiet! comfort! land use!) highlighted.

davel,
@davel@lemmy.ml avatar

Yeah it’s not very impressive, electrifying one commuter line, when China now has 45,000 km of high speed electric lines.

Repelle,

Yeah, I was really surprised. I would have assumed the vast majority of commuter rail was electric, it’s certainly been true for the rail I’ve taken.

davel, w ‘Transformational’: how a California city launched America’s first hydrogen-powered passenger train
@davel@lemmy.ml avatar

the first hydrogen-powered, zero-emissions passenger train

That depends entirely on how the hydrogen is being produced: it’s an energy storage medium, not an energy source.

Though the onboard process does not directly emit greenhouse gases, the production processes to create hydrogen fuel in the US almost always do.

fpslem,

100% agree, this article glosses over that (and many other aspects) of this supposedly newfangled system.

usrtrv,

But what’s wrong with working in parallel? Develop hydrogen while the grid becoming greener. A traditional electric train has the same issue of being grid based.

zabadoh, w Abt System Train on the Oigawa Railway, Japan
stewie3128, w Public Ownership of Rail Is on the Agenda. Here’s What It Could Look Like.

Nationalize all of it, or let the unions purchase the companies.

When Conrail was up for sale, initially the only viable bid came from the employees’ union of Conrail. Liddy Dole rejected it out of hand for that reason. Years later it was sold to a group of proper capitalists.

mondoman712, w How do I learn a freight trains schedule?

There’s a facebook group for that line, perhaps they could help you: www.facebook.com/groups/upbelvideresub/

notfromhere, w FRA (US Federal Railroad Admin) Announces $900k in New Planning and Development Grants to Support Intercity Passenger Rail Services

$900k is like pissing in the wind, what are they going to accomplish with that?

Rentlar,

They mention that at least some of this money is to complete the application for big boi federal grants.

usrtrv, w How do I learn a freight trains schedule?

There are groups out there that monitor train routes. And some publish to the Web.

In theory you could hook up an software defined radio and listen to train transponders yourself and give yourself a warning if one is nearby.

Wooster, w Inside America’s First High Speed Rail
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A lot of good first steps, but this shouldn’t be owned by a private company.

Novi,

That’s how things are done in the USA.

Wooster,
@Wooster@startrek.website avatar

Doesn’t mean we should shrug it off as acceptable.

yokonzo,

Still shouldn’t be

Taleya,

It should also be high speed. That speed is honestly laughable

Alexstarfire,

I’m not watching the video, what type of speed are we talking about?

Xavienth,

It says 200 mph in the description, or 320 kph. That’s respectable.

Vendul, w Why Locomotives Don't Have Tires - Practical Engineering

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  • magnetosphere,
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    I’m nine and find his voice hypnotic

    Rentlar,

    He’s a dad with a kid in that growing up phase. I think it makes it very accessible for people to learn the history of decades of design decisions.

    fpslem, w ‘Transformational’: how a California city launched America’s first hydrogen-powered passenger train

    I posted this because I think this is absolutely silly. A hydrogen-powered train that runs on a low-volume 9-mile track? Why on earth couldn’t this just run on gantry-provided electric power? I guess it’s fine as an experimental trial system, but let’s not pretend that hydrogen is better than electric in basically every rail application imaginable.

    Jumuta,

    it’s also hilarious that the picture in the article shows overhead wires

    yokonzo, w I have been seeing this smaller engine a lot recently

    I thought this was the default one. IDK where I live in Illinois I see this one a lot

    nokturne213,

    This is about 2/3rds of the size of the standard BNSF engines here in NM.

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