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nosurprises, w Is anyone else like 10 times more likely to play a game they pirated versus one they bought?

Maybe it’s the fact I downloaded it exactly when I decided to and not when a sale happened or it was in a bundle.

I don’t get this argument. You don’t have to download a game when it’s on sale or in a bundle. Buy it when it makes the most economical sense, download and play whenever you feel like it.

tiramichu,

Agree. I changed the way that I purchase games by setting myself a rule:

  • Buy it only if you are going to play it TODAY

Previously I had a library of games I had never played because I bought them on sale and they just sat there, unplayed, making me feel sad and stressed.

Purchasing only when I want to play now is both less stressful, and less expensive!

wolfshadowheart,
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This one is dangerous because then you bought it and played it for today and never boot it up again after lol

Excrubulent,
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Oh well, I should’ve said “acquired” there. I mean I bought it on sale, then forgot about it because I wasn’t jazzed to play it right then and there. With pirated games, the act of acquisition is the download, so they are generally available when I’m thinking about them.

gamermanh, w Is anyone else like 10 times more likely to play a game they pirated versus one they bought?
@gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

I think it’s the work that goes into it, at least for me

Money abstracts it too much. Sure that game cost $20, let’s say an hour of my job time. But because it’s the weekend and money has obfuscated this fact a bit I just buy it and move on.

But a game that takes an hour or more to find, download, install, and properly get running? I just did that work on my own free time with no obfuscation, so I’m more likely to want to reap the reward of it

For example: spent a couple hours turning my old hodgepodge of emulators I’ve been using since 2014 into a nice Retro arch installation that my steam deck can also fully utilize a couple weeks back. Because of that I spent some time downloading old games to play, mix of old faves and ones I never got around to.

After all that work it’s all Ive really been playing lately, and the cycle shall repeat I’m sure

DrQuint, w Is anyone else like 10 times more likely to play a game they pirated versus one they bought?

Statistically, no, but only due to the fact I once pirated every single gameboy color and advance game there.

Even if I did play the majority of notable titles from the advance library too, the numbers are just vastly against me.

Excrubulent,
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Oh sure, if you count the emulator libraries I’ve installed on a retropie in bulk then this number changes, that’s every NES, SNES, N64 and SEGA Mega Drive game ever, but I mean games I specifically sourced. I find if I compare full price individual game purchases versus individually pirated games, the pirated ones still have a better hit rate.

Euphoma, w Is anyone else like 10 times more likely to play a game they pirated versus one they bought?

No, for me its the opposite, when I buy a game I’m more likely to actually play it because I want to get my money’s worth of enjoyment, while with a pirated game, there isn’t a need to play the game, even if I do have fun with it.

Callie,
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Same here, except it also applies to if a friend gifts me a game. I’m way more likely to play the game I bought because I have money that could be wasted, rather if it’s free, I have no obligation to ever touch it

Excrubulent,
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I guess I’m talking about launching and trying the game, rather than finishing it. Like once I start playing, the chances I continue are mostly about the game itself, and probably more about my mood at the time than I’d like to admit. I’m talking about games languishing completely untouched. As someone that’s been collecting a steam library for 20 years, I’ve got well over 1000 games and I haven’t played even close to half of them. I play almost all of the games I pirate. I’ve only started doing that a lot in the last year or two, but even in that time I’ve bought a bunch of stuff I don’t play. The pirated ones just call to me stronger.

Sharpiemarker,

The pirated ones just call to me stronger.

I think it’s just you.

fushuan,

I guess I’m talking about launching and trying the game, rather than finishing it.

I wouldn’t buy a game if I’m not going to play it though.

0x2d,

eh, a few years back I pirated Geometry Dash, really liked it and played it all the time, so I bought it on steam

tombuben, w Is anyone else like 10 times more likely to play a game they pirated versus one they bought?

Honestly these days it’s much more difficult to find a good pirate copy compared to getting a working copy you pay for that yeah, if I put in the effort to pirate a game, I’m going to play it. Though I do enjoy having a really large steam library, so I usually just buy something just so it grows.

BlazingFlames6073, w Pirate Pro
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I don’t know what this is. I guess I’ll read a link one of the comments provided here.

Edit: Nvm. The link didn’t explain anything

padge,

A private tracker is a torrenting site, like TPB, but is invite-only or has some other barrier to get in. They’re usually safer and faster, bur you have to seed. Also YMMV, obscure things might either not be on there, or have few/no seeds.

Charliebeans, w Is anyone else like 10 times more likely to play a game they pirated versus one they bought?

Pirated game must be launched to verify that it actually works and this remove 90% of mental burden that makes so many games in Steam library to rot

Excrubulent,
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Oh true, I never considered that. Once you install the crack you’ve got to test it, and that gets you over that first-launch hurdle.

Krauerking, w Pirate Pro

Look I get that private trackers are probably safer and have a mored dedicated community but personally I still love anyone that keeps it public and keeps the knowledge of torrenting open and available as a tool for new people to discover.

I just use the public torrents, I have an IP Blocklist, and I seed the shit out of the stuff I download if it’s got less traction on it.

I will probably find a private group or something once I realize my obscure watching habits leave me out of finding stuff unless I can literally find it physical or get lucky but for now I’m a free pirate.

glad_cat, w This file has 16 detections, is it safe to install it?

A russian file labeled as a trojan? It must be perfectly safe. Or at least you’ll learn a valuable lesson.

Aresff,

Are russian files more likely to be malicious? I’m curious.

glad_cat,

In the past (I.e. 90s to 2000), very yes. Nowadays I don’t know, but with the war and the spying stuff, I would still avoid such sources.

OsrsNeedsF2P, w This file has 16 detections, is it safe to install it?

Malicious files can still be uploaded to trusted sites, but in general apks are well sendboxed so it’s difficult to get a trojan on a non-rooted, up to date Android phone.

What is the apk supposed to be for?

Aresff,

It’s a mod apk file for the game sproggiwood 1.3.2. The file seems to be modded by the site itself though, so if it’s malicious I guess the site is not trustable.

MalReynolds, w please help debug my qbittorrent socks5 setup with nordvpn
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Consider containers. Gluetun makes it easy to establish a wireguard connection to Nord, then use qbittorrent docker on the network that glutun provides, same for all your *arrs. Safer, faster, self-contained. Connect your web-browser to gluetun’s proxy. Just sayin’

AlboTheGuy, w Pirate Pro
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My main issue with seeding is that I don’t always have my pc on and would rather not keep it always on

Pulp,

No need for that?

padge,

You can just set your torrent program to open at startup, as long as you use your computer somewhat often you’ll be fine. Or you can look into a seedbox, it’s cheap

CaptainAniki, w Pirate Pro

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  • Zuberi,
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    I mean most of them are free you just need to be fair and upload your share.

    CaptainAniki,

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  • HeneryHawk,

    I’m on a few private trackers, never paid a penny towards any of them, and have high ratios in all of them

    It did take me a little work and spent some time seeding stuff I didn’t really want but I got there with a shitty home connection (my connection is pretty good now but I built those ratios with dog shit speeds)

    Zuberi, (edited )
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    I’m genuinely surprised to see that opinion in a privacy piracy sub, ngl.

    CaptainAniki,

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  • Zuberi,
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    Edited to correct my typo

    nova_ad_vitum,

    I sort of agree. When everyone is trying to seed to up their ratio, getting stuff is easy and fast. But maintaining your ratio is a nightmare. The place is essentially starved of downloaders because even people who want stuff can’t get it for fear of ruining their ratio. The only reason I had a positive ratio on what.cd was that they occasionally had freeleech days where you could download freely and only uploads counted. On those days I would just get the most popular torrents on the site and upload the shit out of them.

    While these problems exist in any private tracker, I do still miss what.cd.

    spez, w Pirate Pro

    I don’t do much torrenting but only direct downloads (3rd world baby!) What are trackers really?

    Venomnik0,

    omg its spez. How does it feel to run reddit to the ground?

    spez,

    Yup, it’s spez from fucking Brazil

    IvanOverdrive, (edited ) w Pirate Pro

    Here’s my experience with 99% of private trackers:

    “You haven’t upload enough. Download a free-leech to upload more”. So I download it, and no one downloads it from me.

    mark7869,
    @mark7869@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

    yup same experience with the freeleech

    HeneryHawk,

    You’re downloading old and/or unpopular stuff. For you to upload content someone has to be actively downloading that content (that’s how the bit torrent protocol works at the most basic level). If you choose some 5 year-old FL of a Game of Thrones pack with 7,000 seeders, that’s on you

    allocsb,

    The incentive structure just doesn’t seem designed well. It creates a zero sum game. When downloading you can either:

    1. Not seed to 100%. This damages your ratio
    2. Seed to exactly 100%. In terms of ratio maintenance across all seeders this option makes the most sense
    3. Seed past 100%. You build up your own ratio but deny other downloaders from reaching 100% which hurts their ratio. They must spend longer seeding the torrent to reach 100%, which further decreases the likelihood of subsequent downloaders from reaching 100% when seeding

    When you seed past 100%, you essentially have to rely on bad actors to create more upload work for good actors. If there are no bad actors then seeding past 100% is to the detriment of other good actors, who you want to protect because you also rely on them for system health. And private trackers aim to minimize the number of bad actors.

    EddyNottingham,

    Some great private trakers implement a system where users are rewarded for the time they spend seeding rather than the amount of data seeded. This creates an incentive towards keeping torrents available to everyone for a long time, which makes the whole system healthier.

    Aetherion,
    @Aetherion@feddit.de avatar

    which private trackers are engaging this approach. Seems worth to join them.

    Pulp,

    Most

    IDeserveToBeLoved,

    polishsource (polish general tracker) requires you to only seed 48 hours within a week from downloading and nothing more

    allocsb,

    That’s smart!

    reddithalation,

    and some other trackers completely ignore all of that and make it extremely hard to gain ratio. if they all had a bonus points system that would be great though

    Pulp,

    Basically RED only

    reddithalation,

    yeah its red im talking about, they are kinda essential for getting higher up, but i just dont want to deal with it

    Pulp,

    Yeah, RED guarantees access, but it’s also possible to gain access without it; it just takes longer. Sites like TorrentLeech can serve as valid proof for certain sites during applications, for example. Additionally, AlphaRatio also has some recruitment.

    reddithalation,

    yeah, but i would like to get in BLU or AB, and they just don’t take applications or registrations

    Pulp,

    BLU took applications a month ago though

    reddithalation,

    wait what? :| i shoudve checked more

    Pulp,

    Bonus points?

    padge,

    I got around this by just downloading some big freeleech porn packs or a couple new release shows/movies. My highest ratio item is an anime episode I downloaded minutes after release

    GoumLeChat, (edited )

    Use Sonarr or Radarr, it will download content for you as soon as it is available on the tracker. Since people are mostly looking for new stuff it works really well to boost your ratio. I have at least a ratio of 10 (first episode is closer to 20) for every Ahsoka and Futurama episodes. For Asteroid City I’m currently at 18.

    toxictenement,
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    Sonarr and Radarr actually take a bit after the initial upload to discover it, autobrr can grab quicker because it relies on the irc announce channel of the tracker.

    IvanOverdrive,

    I’ll look into it. Thanks

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