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loobkoob, w /kbin March update

I'm glad that you're feeling somewhat better and are on the mend!

Bringing more people on board for moderation is definitely a good idea, as is delegating administration. I think it's clear to everyone who keeps up with all your updates that the coding/development is where your heart lies :) Absolutely prioritise these things; reddit's IPO is in a week and a half, and I wouldn't be surprised to see the fediverse, and /kbin, grow because of that.

I'm happy to put my name forward for helping out with moderation (as I'm sure plenty of other people will, too). You've made something special in /kbin, and helping keep it focused and spam-free through moderation feels like the least we could do to help out!

BolexForSoup,
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I have worked with loobkoob as a moderator on Reddit, discord, etc. and I just want to say they have the temperament and reliability anyone would want in a moderator.

I stumbled across this comment while browsing and felt the need to endorse haha

loobkoob,

<3

ThatOneKirbyMain2568, w /kbin March update
@ThatOneKirbyMain2568@kbin.earth avatar

I know everyone else has said these exact words, but glad that you're feeling better!

It's good to see that you're looking into delegating tasks. It's important for others to be able to pick things up whenever you're unavailable, unwell, or just exasperated. Alongside getting more instance admins, I'd also recommend getting other moderators on the magazines you own (e.g., /m/tech). The spam on those can get really bad, so there should be a few active magazine moderators to deal with those.

kubica, w /kbin March update
@kubica@kbin.social avatar

It would be great if something could be done to ease the responsiveness of the page. Lately for me I'm getting very long random waits clicking links. While other sites work normal.

DessertStorms, w /kbin March update
@DessertStorms@kbin.social avatar

I have very little relevant skill so I won't offer any help lol but it's good to see you around, glad to hear things are settling down for you a little.

melroy, w Prototype for new Kbin app: Interstellar
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We welcome these projects very much! Thank you so much for your time and effort! Such an app is much requested.

Ps. My advise is to check the nodeinfo (example) and validate the software name, so you can easily switch between mbin/kbin if required in the future.

jwr1,
@jwr1@kbin.social avatar

Thanks, that's helpful.

melroy,
@melroy@kbin.melroy.org avatar

You're welcome. I'm part of the Mbin community (in fact the 'M' stands for Melroy). If you need more help or having issues, feel free to contact me when you need!! I'm also on Matrix.

TheArstaInventor,
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Melroy, if you don't mind me asking, why did you go away from Kbin to start your own? I see nothing wrong with Kbin, ernest seems to be a great hardworking guy, I feel like we are just spreading the already small community too thin, Kbin is already small compared to Lemmy and now only the development has started picking up it's pace back again, another spinoff of Kbin makes no sense to me personally.

I wish you just contributed directly to Kbin man.

melroy,
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I contributed a lot kbin directly in the past. It has a long history and story. Long story short: Ernest was offline for months without process, and contributors weren't allowed to merge other PRs, except their own. The way of working within the kbin project means that only Ernest will have the last say and every review goes via him. Development halted when he was gone (yes he is now back). Multiple contributors had the same feeling, hence the reason for a fork. Mbin is community focused, it's not driver my a single owner. All contributors have all rights. We work closer together and review each other code. I speak for myself, but I feel that this change of approach empowered all contributors in Mbin and more sense of responsibility. After all the drama at Kbin, Ernest didn't change either. So I'm glad a fork was created. I wish it wasn't needed.

TheArstaInventor,
@TheArstaInventor@kbin.social avatar

Did you guys talk about this to Ernest? What did he have to say about this?

ernest,
@ernest@kbin.social avatar

I feel that our visions for the project's development are too different for this to succeed. At this stage, it will definitely be better to work on our own things, /kbin is open source, so there is no issue with that. There are several reasons for this link, link

TheArstaInventor,
@TheArstaInventor@kbin.social avatar

Thank you for the reply.

From my point of view, you were offline because you had personal issues to deal with, and you dealt with that first, and simply resumed the development after that, and I also see no issues with Ernest being the owner because he is the owner and the founder despite the project being open source and sure, contributions had to go through him but that's fine as long as Kbin itself isn't dead, if it was, then asking him to remove that process would be more reasonable to let the rest of the community try to revive the project, but Kbin wasn't dying or so, it was merely paused for a short period of time.

I personally won't be hopping in-between projects like a kangaroo, I am invested and am already on Kbin so far, its good to have alternatives generally, but in this case, I personally see no reason to go for Mbin. I also encourage and hope potential future contributors focus on a set of projects and not spread themselves too thin.

We all have a life outside the internet, so pauses or breaks here and there is natural, this is less visible in big tech companies, more visible in small startups/projects in early stages which was really the case with Kbin, so we should be patient, I will be atleast :)

Pamasich, w Kbin badly needs a facelift

seeing "span" and other tags instead of the actual code block

If you're using Firefox or Kiwi, the Kbin Enhancement Suite userscript now has a fix for this. There's also a standalone version here.

Well, for the span tags, I haven't seen other tags being an issue. If you see a code block where the same issue occurs with other tags, tell me so I can update it.

If there is another Reddit exodus, for example, or if we get a surge due to the Threads thing, I feel like many will just turn back due to the UI alone.

I don't know if ernest's views changed since the last exodus, but iirc people joining the platform wasn't really his intention, it just happened. Kbin hasn't even had a proper full release yet, it's still beta software, so I don't think people bouncing off is that big an issue yet.

With the abandonment of Artemis (formerly kmoon), kbin is now only really usable by the mobile site.

That's the case for now, but app development is still happening with other projects:

  • ernest has mentioned intentions to revive his kbin app project
  • Lemmy's Lunar (ios) app is adding kbin support
  • @jwr1 introduced their Interstellar app prototype for Android recently.
density,
@density@kbin.social avatar

I understood OP to be talking about mobile specifically. If there is a way to get the userstyles on mobile it's gotta be like 20 steps long. If someone could somehow wrap it all up in an easy package that would be one thing but idk if it's really a viable solution.

Pamasich,

I understood OP to be talking about mobile specifically.

And that's why I said Firefox or Kiwi. Both of those are mobile browsers (the latter is chromium) that support extensions, so you can just install your favorite monkey and stylus and add userscripts/userstyles the exact same way as on desktop.

metaStatic, w Ernest needs to quickly delegate or this instance will quickly die

Whenever Kbin is down I go touch grass.

Next thing you know I'll be kissing girls and everything.

You should try it, what could possibly go wrong.

Drusas,

Not gay enough.

dumples, w /kbin March update
@dumples@kbin.social avatar

Glad your doing better. Thanks for everything you do

BoBTFish, w /kbin March update
@BoBTFish@kbin.social avatar

Great to hear you're doing better! I really hope this community can become self sustaining and you can focus on the bits that most excite you.

AlteredStateBlob, w /kbin March update
@AlteredStateBlob@kbin.social avatar

Those are great news. Hope your recovery goes well and that you find some solid people to help with the maintenance in terms of moderation. kbin really is my favorite instance of this all, but needs some love.

insomniac_lemon, (edited ) w /kbin March update

I'll be more actively handling spam as well, but it's clear that we need additional people for global instance moderation. I'll prioritize this. I'd like to delegate instance administration as much as possible and fully focus on code

Said before (forgive me if you planned on replying to it), but is spam filtering (and similar issues related to moderation/federation) something you're planning or?

The current spam is rudimentary so I don't think false positives are a reason for no filtering at all, particularly if existing users are not scanned the same way. If mods can un-delete false positive threads/comments made by new accounts surely it'd be less work than manually removing spambot stuff (even if it were per-user). Especially if manual spam removal means that people still see the spam.

EDIT: Also clicking on one of the new spam accounts, 13 minutes old with 6 threads (and that was posted almost immediately with the rest posted within the span of 3 minutes).

rhythmisaprancer, w /kbin March update
@rhythmisaprancer@kbin.social avatar

It's good to see you posting again. Many of us are willing to do things to help out as our skills allow 🙂 Be well.

Hello_there, w Ernest needs to quickly delegate or this instance will quickly die

I volunteered to moderate a magazine. It still has just Ernest. Those are the ones posting Watch Dune 2 with a link to LinkedIn.

LanternEverywhere,

Me too. I literally just want to remove spam. I messaged him to become a mod of one of those places, but he never responded.

rhythmisaprancer, w Ernest needs to quickly delegate or this instance will quickly die
@rhythmisaprancer@kbin.social avatar

I agree that it would probably be helpful to have more than one person running the program, but I also understand it can be hard to let a project go. I really like kbin, but will admit I set up another account elsewhere. It isn't as nice as kbin. I don't know rust but will definitely step up to moderate! Learning new things is good. I'll do it. Happily 🙂

LanternEverywhere,

If he would just let people mod the communities that get spammed then that would be a massive improvement, and it would literally only take him a couple of clicks. But instead he keeps himself as sole mod of those forums, so they get tons of spam, ruining kbin's Newest page.

DarkGamer, w Ernest needs to quickly delegate or this instance will quickly die
@DarkGamer@kbin.social avatar

Let him do it at his own pace, he has more important things to worry about right now.

Infiltrated_ad8271,
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Fair enough, but it should also be noted that this is not a recent problem.

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