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Teppic, w /kbin RTR#15 Cleanup Continues, Nodeinfo 2.1 Support, KES 3.0.0
@Teppic@kbin.social avatar

For those (like me) who are wondering... Nodeinfo is a standard seeking to improve interoperability between fediverse platforms.

https://github.com/jhass/nodeinfo

lusterko, w /kbin RTR#19 Summary of current work and plans for the near and somewhat distant future

Resolution of several bugs causing the failure to display certain content (error 500).

It seems that Lemmy instances are unable do display new content that was posted on kbin.social. is this the big you're talking about?

e0qdk,
@e0qdk@kbin.social avatar

I'm not sure what ernest is referring to with that, but something definitely does seem to be up with federation of content from kbin over to lemmy.

e.g. in /m/anime_irl the last three threads posted have not federated out. I commented here with a list of 5 lemmy servers I checked on a 24 hour old post that hasn't shown up elsewhere (after noticing my own post wasn't showing up).

There's also something going on with comments added by lemmy users on threads that have federated not going out to other lemmy instances. e.g. on this thread from 5 days ago only my first comment has federated widely; the other comment chain (starting with the user from lemmy.world) are only visible on kbin.social and lemmy.world, as far as I can tell. Not sure if that's exactly the same issue or not, but seems plausible for it to be related if something isn't working correctly with federation right now.

Comments that I've made on lemmy threads have gone through today though.

ernest,
@ernest@kbin.social avatar

I will look into this. I will also gradually address federation issues. However, I'm not sure if the problem is on the kbin side. Currently, there are no performance issues; all queues are being cleared in real-time. Communication on my test instances with kbin.social takes a matter of seconds.

lusterko,

Idk what's the problem, but if I'm using Lemmy I'm only able to see the posts from almost two days ago, and nothing from what I've posted today. There was a problem a few months back, when my posts would appear on lemmy one to three hours after posting on kbin.

ernest,
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I'll look into what's going on, and I'll move it up higher on my priority list. Anyway, it's not a federation issue in general.

https://mastodon.social/@lusterko@kbin.social

ernest,
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lusterko,

Is it possible that it's because of something on Lemmy's end?
Edit: forgot to switch to the "new", but the newest visible posts are also 2days old

GeekFTW,
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Also having the same thing happen over on /m/SquaredCircle for what it's worth. Just noticed last night after a particularly slow day. Logged into my lemmy.zip alt and noticed nothing for near 48h had come across from kbin. Checked another alt on another lemmy instance and it was more or less the same there too.

ernest,
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Fixed, thank you for pointing it out. During the night or in the morning, when there is less traffic, I will try to resend all unsuccessful requests.

This week, I will be setting up test environments for other platforms, so I will try to catch such issues more quickly.

https://lemmy.zip/c/music@kbin.social

@sab @e0qdk

lusterko,

Works well now, thanks!

jupiter_rowland, w /kbin RTR#19 Summary of current work and plans for the near and somewhat distant future

That sounds good, for /kbin seems to generally have troubles with federating to the outside Fediverse. For example, formatted posts or posts with embedded links go out as raw Markdown code, implying that everything else can and will parse it, rather than standard Rich Text.

Also, I sometimes see posts from /kbin with a summary (the same as a content warning on Mastodon; I don't know what /kbin uses that field for), but the post in the summary is the same as the summary, only without hashtags which only appear in the summary.

Teppic, w RTR#21 Sub channel filters, spoiler tag
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I need to update this now, but it is still relevant:
https://kbin.social/m/fediverse/t/275724/Browsing-the-wider-fediverse-from-kbin

thisismissem, w /kbin RTR#19 Summary of current work and plans for the near and somewhat distant future
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@ernest Will the spoiler system also be compatible with Mastodon? This would be very good to have.

(or, alternatively, can we get a FEP for a proper spoiler system other than using the summary field?)

ernest,
@ernest@kbin.social avatar

Definitely, I plan to integrate spoilers with ActivityPub. For now, it's just a Markdown change compatible with Lemmy - there were many requests for it, and it was quite cumbersome. I will start working on federation after finish the refactoring. I want to do this on the new codebase - I'm getting closer, but initially, I'm fully focused on instance moderation, which will enable the operation of a global moderation team. Later, things with lower priority will be gradually implemented.

sz, w RTR#22 Further improvements interspersed with code refactoring

Good job
Looking forward to seeing Mercure here

Pamasich, w RTR#22 Further improvements interspersed with code refactoring

Regarding the spoilers, are you aware that federation with Lemmy doesn't seem to work yet?

Lemmy spoilers still don't work for me, and if I look at /kbin spoilers from a Lemmy instance, it appears as

<details><summary>Ah, and I would have forgotten.  
</summary>that should work too.
</details>

ernest,
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Oh, my bad. Give me a sec ;)

ernest,
@ernest@kbin.social avatar

It should be better, but I will verify it thoroughly tomorrow. Thanks!

https://szmer.info/post/1401150

ContentConsumer9999, w RTR#22 Further improvements interspersed with code refactoring

What is "Mercure" and "dynamic feed"?

Kierunkowy74, (edited )
@Kierunkowy74@kbin.social avatar

well,
with the dynamic feed you can receive the updates live - as they are published (without refreshing the page)

ernest,
@ernest@kbin.social avatar

Exactly so, additionally counting votes and comments without refreshing.

ContentConsumer9999,

Would that also help with boosts leading to 404 pages?

mizzyc,
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Are there any plans for the feed to always show new posts that you haven't seen yet, just like the reddit feed?

I mean, every time I open the "hot" section, for example, I see the same posts that are trending, even when I've already seen them before. It'd be nice to be able to see only content I didn't saw yet, so people will be always receiving new content and raising their interest and engagement :)

EDIT: I'm not complaining about the experience, just making a suggestion and I wanna thank you (as always) for your awesome work with /kbin! It's for sure my favorite social network!

ernest,
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I will be working on and prototyping something in the coming months. The first step in the near future will be marking unread comments in some way.

It's for sure my favorite social network!

Great to hear ;-)

ThatOneKirbyMain2568, w RTR#22 Further improvements interspersed with code refactoring
@ThatOneKirbyMain2568@kbin.social avatar

huh,
that's pretty neat

Kierunkowy74, w RTR#22 Further improvements interspersed with code refactoring
@Kierunkowy74@kbin.social avatar

, that Lemmy-Flavoured Markdown's implementation of spoilers includes entire word „spoiler”. Ouch.

Somewhereunknown7351, w RTR#22 Further improvements interspersed with code refactoring
@Somewhereunknown7351@kbin.social avatar

::: does this work
Nope
:::

mizzyc,
@mizzyc@kbin.social avatar

::: spoiler you forgot to type
spoiler at the beginning
:::

Somewhereunknown7351,
@Somewhereunknown7351@kbin.social avatar

::: spoiler test
Thanks
:::

Edit: still not working

mizzyc,
@mizzyc@kbin.social avatar

Here it looks fine!

Somewhereunknown7351,
@Somewhereunknown7351@kbin.social avatar

It’s working on my end now

Kierunkowy74, w RTR#23 Wrapping comments, hiding threads/posts, marking new comments in threads/posts, aggregate view
@Kierunkowy74@kbin.social avatar

The foundation also maintains and provides many Fediverse services, including the Polish instance /kbin.

Are https://karab.in and https://bin.pol.social maintained by the same FTdL foundation?

ernest,
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karab.in is hosted on my private VPS.

ContentConsumer9999, w RTR#23 Wrapping comments, hiding threads/posts, marking new comments in threads/posts, aggregate view

RTR#19

This disappears when I try to turn on its preview.

ContentConsumer9999, w RTR#24 Setting up test environments for federation development, comment wrapping

Omigosh, I'm famous!

Jokes aside, will this deployment process perhaps open up the possibility for beta testers? I think you've mentioned before that you have an experimental fork that you use for testing. I'd love to help out in that process.

ernest,
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Hey, I'll let you know when the test environments are fully ready. Currently, I'm using it more for reading logs of communication between instances. But I want to do it more thoroughly soon. Thanks!

ContentConsumer9999,

Great to hear!

Chozo, w RTR#24 Setting up test environments for federation development, comment wrapping

Liking the comment wrap so far! Makes it a lot easier to navigate high-traffic threads now, thanks!

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