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Mandy, w Unity May Never Win Back the Developers It Lost in Its Fee Debacle

Fantastic, let them die Let a company, just once, learn a lesson

azenyr,

Not a good idea to leave Unreal Engine without decent competitors. Other universal engines are too small to compete with UE.

MrMcGasion,

Honestly, Unreal has been in a different league ever since Epic started dumping Fortnite money into it. That’s probably why Unity tried to start charging more, because they’ve been falling behind for the past few years and can’t afford to keep up. Not that I think it’s good to leave Epic/Unreal without decent competition, but I’m more inclined to blame Fortnite for the downfall of Unity than the indie devs Unity just scared off with their desperate cash-grab.

captain_aggravated,
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Unreal has been in a different league basically since its inception. Compare the original Unreal engine to its contemporaries like Quake or Half Life and it’s amazing what they could do, if you had a box that could run it.

The difference between Unreal and Unity is Unreal has a sustainable viable business model (I think I’ve come to the conclusion that there are no “sustainable” business models under capitalism, what with demanding infinite growth and lal that). Epic Games develops their own games; the development of Unreal Engine has pulled its weight as a component of Fortnite and such. Same thing with Valve; I don’t think they ever bothered to charge for developing a game in the Source engine because they made their money for engine development through Half Life 2, Portal, TF2, Left 4 Dead etc.

Unity on the other hand doesn’t make and sell games, so they have to either directly charge developers (which they both do and don’t) or they operate their own adware nonsense. And neither of those revenue streams are enough. Which means they don’t have a viable business model. So they pull a stunt like this to hasten their inevitable bankruptcy.

tias, (edited )

Yeah I was a game programmer in the early 2000s. Unreal made my jaw drop back then already. They’ve always been state of the art (although arguably CryEngine had the lead for a while), long before Unity came around. As you might remember, it started out in 1998 as the game Unreal (and then Unreal Tournament) which was a kickass first-person shooter. It has been around for 25 years now.

Unreal is now also selling their engine to Hollywood productions that want to replace green screen with real-time effects for the actors to play against. It’s impressive stuff, and I bet they’re going rake in tons of money through that channel as well. Unity is just not in the same ballpark.

That said, there’s room for Unity if they’re willing to find a business model where they don’t compete head-on with Unreal. As the article indicates there is (was) a strong community providing tons of cheap or free-of-charge assets, and it’s been very appreciated among indie devs for these reasons. Unity excels in support for mobile and web platforms. They don’t need to make their engine support all the latest cool technology. They just need good developer relations and tools that make it easy to turn cool ideas into fun games. The fact that they squandered their biggest asset (the community) shows that the leadership does not comprehend Unity’s value proposition. It is being lead by fucking morons.

Potatos_are_not_friends,

Having used the Unreal engine, I’m actually surprised it’s not more popular than Unity.

I’m leaning towards people saw Unity as “the scrappy underdog” to Epic. When really, Unreal engine fought like hell to get to where it is.

Zacryon,

Tencent, which owns Epic Games to 40%, is a big turnoff for me.

Omega_Haxors,

I’m sure the person responsible for the change is going to be feeling devastated as they buy back all the stocks for fractions of what they paid.

z0rb, w Dusk: Unpopular opinion: I'd rather pay Valve 30% and put up with their de facto monopoly than help Epic work towards their own (very obviously desired) monopoly

Valve supports linux gaming! The Steam Deck is awesome and with an even better configuration (or the rumored valve's own new steam machine) this is only getting better. So, only Valve gets my money.

Aurenkin,

I buy games pretty much exclusively on Steam because of the Linux support (my gaming PC runs Linux only).

Hopefully more places follow suit because I believe competition is a good thing but for now it’s Steam all the way pretty much apart from Starsector and until recently Dwarf Fortress.

Ascyron, w PAYDAY 3: Things are starting to look better. We're seeing players being able to create lobbies again and getting back in the game. You still might have a few issues, bear with us while....

For those of us that dont like having to click thru to eX-twitter to give musk traffic, any chance that we could get the game name in the title? 😁

nanoUFO,
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My bad, fixed.

Ascyron,

Thanks!

ArugulaZ, w Xbox head Phil Spencer says he "always wanted us to go back and revisit MechAssault"
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I revisit MechWarrior every time I need to soft mod an Xbox.

ArugulaZ,
@ArugulaZ@kbin.social avatar

I realize I said MechWARRIOR, not MechAssault, and now I must hang my nerd head in shame.

rebelsimile, w Xbox head Phil Spencer says he "always wanted us to go back and revisit MechAssault"

I loved MechAssualt 1, 2 was disappointing.

RavenFellBlade,
@RavenFellBlade@startrek.website avatar

Really? I loved the BattleArmor/Elementals and other vehicles. I had a blast playing MA2 with my friends.

rebelsimile,

It’s been a very long time since I played it, but I felt like they overcomplicated it and didn’t really capture the arcade-y feel of the original.

Nastybutler, w AR horror Scrylight will "blur the boundaries of what’s real and what isn't"

Thanks. I never wanted to sleep again in my own home anyway.

spacecowboy, w Havoc hits EVE Online 14 Nov

Do new people join Eve anymore?

Albbi, w GOG 15th anniversary sale

Picked up the Baird’s Tale Trilogy. Good reviews and I’d love to play one of these kinds of games again.

stopthatgirl7, w Jim Ryan on the future of PlayStation Studios. "These third person, graphically beautiful narrative rich games will continue to be the bedrock of our first party publishing business."
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These are the kinds of games I love, so it’s is a win as far as I’m concerned. Hopefully they’ll start porting their games to PC faster.

Oz0ne, w Steam's Oldest User Accounts Turn 20, Valve Celebrates With Special Digital Badges - IGN

Before steamid there was wonid. OGs know.

Swarfega,

I for some reason take great pride in having a low numbered steamid.

fuzzzerd,

I robbed my self of that ability accidentally, because I preferred cs 1.3/4/5 and it was won only, so I actively avoided 1.6 like the plague and with it steam. Then halflife 2 came out and I bit the bullet.

Swarfega,

I was a TFC player so there was no change for me.

Oz0ne,

yeah i signed up the same day wonid switched to steamid and nabbed a 5 digit

HidingCat, w Why does everyone swear so much in The Witcher 3?

Isn't it because the world's a bit shit too? XD

QuantumEyetanglement, w Xbox head Phil Spencer says he "always wanted us to go back and revisit MechAssault"

AC6 is doing a great job of filling my mech void currently! Highly recommend for fans of the previous games or genre as a whole

clay_pidgin, (edited )

Mechwarrior 6 is about to release the Clan Invasion … DLC? It might be a separate release technically. If you’re interested in a more simulator-like experience.

QuantumEyetanglement,

Thanks for the rec! Will look into it!

clay_pidgin,

You betcha. There’s also Mechwarrior:Online, which is a separate game. Multiplayer battles with rankings and unlocks and stuff. I haven’t tried it but the gameplay looks fun.

Whirlybird, w Jim Ryan on the future of PlayStation Studios. "These third person, graphically beautiful narrative rich games will continue to be the bedrock of our first party publishing business."

Guess I’ll continue to not buy playstation consoles then. Bought multiple playstations every generation up until the PS4 - PS, PSOne, PS2, PS2 slim, PS3, PS3 slim, PSP, PS Vita all bought on launch day, but after the PS3s slow change to cinematic 3rd person linear story driven games I gave up on them.

Molecular0079, w Jim Ryan on the future of PlayStation Studios. "These third person, graphically beautiful narrative rich games will continue to be the bedrock of our first party publishing business."

Good. The last thing I want is more live-service games.

MentalEdge, (edited )
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I would love to see some other genres covered, tho.

RIP Studio Liverpool.

At the same time I get that GoW and Uncharted sell better than WipEout… but come on, I want at least something more than different flavors of the same game type.

RamSwamson,

I need more arcade racers in my life. If there were a Sony equivalent of forza horizon I would be all over that.

Kyoyeou, w Mortal Kombat 1 is No.1 in the UK boxed charts. Physical launch sales are down 38% compared with Mortal Kombat 11. Lies of P is No.3, just ahead of Pikmin 1 + 2 at No.4. Payday 3 comes in at No.7...

Quite certain Payday 3 could have been higher if it had better executive choices like I don’t know, an offline mode, so that it’s no today after 4 days that people can start to have some servers that are about good. Emphasis on About

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