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fossilesque, w The Witcher producer blames Americans and social media for Netflix series' simplified plot
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You know that meme where the guy riding the bike sticks a crowbar in the tire? Yeah…

Norgur,
BurntPunk,
Norgur,

Acknowledged

BleatingZombie,

Heyyy. I’d really appreciate that as an image of a notice. If you’re able to go ahead and get that on my desk soon, that would be greaaat

fossilesque,
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A hearty chuckle was given.

unreachable,
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AccmRazr, w The Witcher producer blames Americans and social media for Netflix series' simplified plot

Look at this clown! First, they came out saying they weren’t even fans of the material. You have Henry Cavil in the lead role who is a super fan of the source materials arguing with you and the writers about the show. And then you finish it off by blaming the audience for your decisions. Mind you, the audience you have ultimately attracted is largely influenced by the decisions you have made throughout the production of YOUR show. The audience didn’t make this show, YOU did

deweydecibel,

Is this the same person? This is just an executive producer, not the writer or show runner.

Pretty funny to call out someone for not reading something while simultaneously not reading the article to know who it is you’re even talking about.

Overzeetop,
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If you're the executive producer, it's your fault that your team members fucked it up. If you cannot find a competent writer to properly express nuance on the screen, it's still your fault. You hired the wrong person to adapt the books. You are the boss, the final say, the one-ass-to-kick when things go wrong. The Witcher is not some nuanced story about regional distinctions in low-visibility communities told in short form, which seems to be his only acclaimed experience, followed by several production failures.

This entire interview comes down to "those lazy zoomers don't know how to appreciate good film." From the description of his past, massive failures it appears to be a problem with his process and ability, not an audience problem.

bane_killgrind,

by several production failures

Hehe savage

Windex007,

If you’re AN executive producer:

youtu.be/8P_AnvUIvJs

TrismegistusMx, w The Witcher producer blames Americans and social media for Netflix series' simplified plot
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When it flops they’ll blame Americans too. Narcissists are incapable of assuming responsibility for their own failures.

bl4ckblooc, w The Witcher producer blames Americans and social media for Netflix series' simplified plot

This is coming from someone who never even read the books and got in fights with HC because of deviating from the world of the books/games?

BettyWhiteInHD, w The Witcher producer blames Americans and social media for Netflix series' simplified plot
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It’s always smart to bite the hand that feeds you.

teft, w The Witcher producer blames Americans and social media for Netflix series' simplified plot
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“we want to make more money so we dumbed down the plot to idiot level and blame it on americans being dumb. Also we changed everything to be more emotional because that’s what tiktoks kids want, more emotion and less plot or something”

Guy sounds like a twat.

HuddaBudda,
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He's a guy that is hitting excel spreadsheet metrics from past shows, wondering why his metrics aren't appealing to people.

green_witch, w The Witcher producer blames Americans and social media for Netflix series' simplified plot
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Yeah, right.

I don’t think any American was like “wow I want a shittier version of the Witcher to watch, that’d be sooo great!”

masterspace,

American test audiences literally said that for I Am Legend which combined with studios unopinionated cowardice caused them to ruin the ending, amongst many, many, many other times that test audiences have given bad artistic feedback.

His anger should probably be focused at the showrunner / studio, but I’m guessing he’s not risking burning those bridges so is instead blaming the only other party in the decision making process, the test audiences.

green_witch,
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Judging by your other claim in this thread that Americans have a 20% illiteracy rate, as an American here’s a 20% effort response:

Hurpdurp what’s i am legend gotta do with witchermans durrr

masterspace,

You do have a 20% illiteracy rate, and the response is that American test audiences have ruined very obviously good plots with their stupidity many times before.

green_witch,
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Help, my literacy rate goes down every time I read your comments. Now, I can only communicate this way:

❔️🤔📖

ASprigOfSage, w The Witcher producer blames Americans and social media for Netflix series' simplified plot

Yup cause Amaricans wrote the script and decided against the millions of of fans (including the lead actor) who specifically said the new direction sucked directly to the entire production team… yup amaricans.

iNeedScissors67, w The Witcher producer blames Americans and social media for Netflix series' simplified plot
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The games and books seemed to do just fine in America lol

Hyacathusarullistad,
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The Witcher 3 is one of the best selling games ever, and is considered by critics and fans alike to be one of the best games of its genre ever. This guy is a fucking clown.

sadreality,

Yes, came here to say this. Thank you for your services. American executive never own any failures. Claw back their bonuses, fucking brain piece of shits can't even do their jobs anymore.

Arcane_Trixster,

This is a Polish executive. You’re just parroting other’s opinions.

sadreality,

Well good to know that not only Americans suck this bad... kinda refreshing actually. Either why is u hurt tho?

iNeedScissors67,
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Yep lol it's laughable. Love your user icon, I use the N7 icon for a lot of different services.

Hyacathusarullistad,
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Thanks! Mass Effect is in my top three game franchises (the other two being Witcher and Elder Scrolls).

Gorejelly,
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Yea but that’s only because the game has lots of pretty, moving pictures. And the books have pretty covers.

I’m American, so I can’t even read. I noticed some symbols in the show that could be conceived as trying to impart words or ideas, and it just turned me right off.

You might be asking yourself: “If I can’t read, then how did I understand and respond to this topic?”, and I would then respond: “SHUT UP VOICES IN MY HEAD!”

that_one_guy,

Great comment, but could have used a more realistic scenario of using a screen reader/dictation software to comment. It’s okay though, I get that you needed to simplify it for the American audiences.

iNeedScissors67,
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This reads like a Dave Attell stand-up act lol

ImaginaryFox, w The Witcher producer blames Americans and social media for Netflix series' simplified plot

How? Aren't they the ones in charge? American audiences have as much influence on the product they chose to deliver as Americans did for Dark. Great show by the way.

RaoulDook,

Dark and 1899 were both great. 1899 got canceled already though, because the Netflix people are stupid.

c0mput0r,

1899 was garbage and can't even be compared to Dark. Dark was so much better.

Captain_Ender, w The Witcher producer blames Americans and social media for Netflix series' simplified plot

He's really blaming the execs and showrunner between the lines I think. Saying she had to "make tough decisions" means "she fucked up". It's Netflix and the showrunner who think they need to go to the lowest common denominator with scripts to appeal to Americans, especially hard fantasy/sci-fi. So he's kinda pissed at both groups really not just audiences.

It's a shame because other works like GOT 1-5 show the opposite. Go for complex, go for the source material, and audiences will be patient for it.

Madison_rogue,
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Then blame execs and showrunners, not the audience. American audiences are savvier than he thinks, just because he had one pitch that didn't fare well with American audiences doesn't mean that they won't embrace more complicated elements of The Witcher.

Plus it just sounds sad; blame audiences for something you, as a producer, can't effectively produce.

masterspace,

He wasn’t showrunner, just EP on 16 episodes, and he can’t burn the showrunner or Netflix if he wants more work in the industry.

Madison_rogue,
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I didn't say he was a showrunner.

Evil_Shrubbery, w The Witcher producer blames Americans and social media for Netflix series' simplified plot

Sooo … are we getting some blonde royal witch that lost her kingdome to ride a dragon (flying unicorn?) & genocide a bit in the next series?

The previous time around we got some really top level memery out of it … tho it would be will be a shame with this one :/

Tigbitties, w The Witcher producer blames Americans and social media for Netflix series' simplified plot
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This is the kinda guy that would yell at parking sign for smashing into his car.

Ferk, (edited )
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It's worse, he's smashing his face with it and yet refuses to acknowledge the parking sign while complaining about some other imaginary obstacle instead.

If it were true that Americans & social media wanted such simplified plot, it would have been more successful than it was.

Challenger, w The Witcher producer blames Americans and social media for Netflix series' simplified plot

When asked what he believed to be significant for younger people, Baginski replied: “Just emotions. Just pure emotions. A bare emotional mix. Those people grew up on TikTok and YouTube, they jump from video to video.”

So basically It’s Gen Z that he couldn’t create an interesting plot from the source material

Contramuffin, w The Witcher producer blames Americans and social media for Netflix series' simplified plot

Sounds like sour grapes and rationalization. The producer states that his complicated projects failed. If all of your complicated projects failed, then it may be that you struggle with making complicated projects, not that Americans don’t like complicated projects.

Plus, it sounds like he disproves his own point without realizing it. He simplified the Witcher and it still isn’t doing well. Isn’t that an indicator that maybe plot complexity isn’t as strong of a predictor of audience engagement as he thinks?

2pt_perversion,

And yet Game of Thrones and House of the Dragon are both in the same fantasy genre with complex storylines and they did great in the US.

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