The Witcher producer blames Americans and social media for Netflix series' simplified plot angielski
The executive producer on Netflix's The Witcher has blamed American audiences and social media sites such as TikTok for…
The executive producer on Netflix's The Witcher has blamed American audiences and social media sites such as TikTok for…
AccmRazr, Look at this clown! First, they came out saying they weren’t even fans of the material. You have Henry Cavil in the lead role who is a super fan of the source materials arguing with you and the writers about the show. And then you finish it off by blaming the audience for your decisions. Mind you, the audience you have ultimately attracted is largely influenced by the decisions you have made throughout the production of YOUR show. The audience didn’t make this show, YOU did
deweydecibel, angielski Is this the same person? This is just an executive producer, not the writer or show runner.
Pretty funny to call out someone for not reading something while simultaneously not reading the article to know who it is you’re even talking about.
Overzeetop, angielski If you're the executive producer, it's your fault that your team members fucked it up. If you cannot find a competent writer to properly express nuance on the screen, it's still your fault. You hired the wrong person to adapt the books. You are the boss, the final say, the one-ass-to-kick when things go wrong. The Witcher is not some nuanced story about regional distinctions in low-visibility communities told in short form, which seems to be his only acclaimed experience, followed by several production failures.
This entire interview comes down to "those lazy zoomers don't know how to appreciate good film." From the description of his past, massive failures it appears to be a problem with his process and ability, not an audience problem.
bane_killgrind, angielski by several production failures
Hehe savage
Windex007, If you’re AN executive producer:
Gutotito, angielski We made it this way because you're stupid. Also, if you don't like it, you're stupid.
No wonder it turned out to be a pile of dogshit.
Tigbitties, angielski This is the kinda guy that would yell at parking sign for smashing into his car.
Ferk, (edited ) angielski It's worse, he's smashing his face with it and yet refuses to acknowledge the parking sign while complaining about some other imaginary obstacle instead.
If it were true that Americans & social media wanted such simplified plot, it would have been more successful than it was.
iNeedScissors67, angielski The games and books seemed to do just fine in America lol
Hyacathusarullistad, angielski The Witcher 3 is one of the best selling games ever, and is considered by critics and fans alike to be one of the best games of its genre ever. This guy is a fucking clown.
sadreality, angielski Yes, came here to say this. Thank you for your services. American executive never own any failures. Claw back their bonuses, fucking brain piece of shits can't even do their jobs anymore.
Arcane_Trixster, This is a Polish executive. You’re just parroting other’s opinions.
sadreality, angielski Well good to know that not only Americans suck this bad... kinda refreshing actually. Either why is u hurt tho?
iNeedScissors67, angielski Yep lol it's laughable. Love your user icon, I use the N7 icon for a lot of different services.
Hyacathusarullistad, angielski Thanks! Mass Effect is in my top three game franchises (the other two being Witcher and Elder Scrolls).
Gorejelly, angielski Yea but that’s only because the game has lots of pretty, moving pictures. And the books have pretty covers.
I’m American, so I can’t even read. I noticed some symbols in the show that could be conceived as trying to impart words or ideas, and it just turned me right off.
You might be asking yourself: “If I can’t read, then how did I understand and respond to this topic?”, and I would then respond: “SHUT UP VOICES IN MY HEAD!”
that_one_guy, Great comment, but could have used a more realistic scenario of using a screen reader/dictation software to comment. It’s okay though, I get that you needed to simplify it for the American audiences.
iNeedScissors67, angielski This reads like a Dave Attell stand-up act lol
green_witch, Yeah, right.
I don’t think any American was like “wow I want a shittier version of the Witcher to watch, that’d be sooo great!”
masterspace, angielski American test audiences literally said that for I Am Legend which combined with studios unopinionated cowardice caused them to ruin the ending, amongst many, many, many other times that test audiences have given bad artistic feedback.
His anger should probably be focused at the showrunner / studio, but I’m guessing he’s not risking burning those bridges so is instead blaming the only other party in the decision making process, the test audiences.
green_witch, angielski Judging by your other claim in this thread that Americans have a 20% illiteracy rate, as an American here’s a 20% effort response:
Hurpdurp what’s i am legend gotta do with witchermans durrr
masterspace, angielski You do have a 20% illiteracy rate, and the response is that American test audiences have ruined very obviously good plots with their stupidity many times before.
green_witch, angielski Help, my literacy rate goes down every time I read your comments. Now, I can only communicate this way:
❔️🤔📖
teft, “we want to make more money so we dumbed down the plot to idiot level and blame it on americans being dumb. Also we changed everything to be more emotional because that’s what tiktoks kids want, more emotion and less plot or something”
Guy sounds like a twat.
HuddaBudda, angielski He's a guy that is hitting excel spreadsheet metrics from past shows, wondering why his metrics aren't appealing to people.
TrismegistusMx, When it flops they’ll blame Americans too. Narcissists are incapable of assuming responsibility for their own failures.
_haha_oh_wow_, angielski What a muppet...
Kolanaki, angielski Right… It’s the audience’s fault and not the show runners who outright refused to follow the books and games leading to the star of the show leaving. 🙄
Unaware7013, angielski Alternative headline "Person highly involved with making show blames anyone but themselves for failure"
HidingCat, angielski Remember, Game of Thrones did well, and that's not a simplified show during its peak.
Master, angielski I blame the fact that the producer doesn’t give a single fuck about the story.
falsem, angielski Yeah, blame your customers.
Simplifying is really different from what they did which is completely alter characters, unnecessarily kill off characters, introduce new plots that didn't exist, etc. The Lord of the Rings movies, and the recent Dune movie both did a lot of that but are considered fantastic adaptations. Even Game of Thrones was an excellent adaptation for the first ~5 seasons and had huge mass market appeal while still being complex.
This is just shitty writers making excuses.
isthingoneventhis, man the dune movie was so interesting sounding and watching it was such a … idk… it was an experience. There was so much stuff that seemed so loosely strung together to the point of feeling almost baffling. I wouldn’t think LoTR or early GoT are comparable?
falsem, angielski :shrug: I liked it.
C4RP3_N0CT3M, angielski You might need to go back and watch it again. I had a completely different experience, and I found the plot rather cohesive. It's one of the best movies I've ever seen in my opinion.
GoodEye8, angielski I felt like Dune needed some prior knowledge of the books to really follow the plot. Not because the plot wasn’t cohesive, but because so much plot was condensed into a movie that was already 2 and half hours long. It’s not the fault of the movie, the book is just dense. But it does end up disorienting for the average viewer who can’t instantly adjust their understanding of the universe to fully follow the plot.
C4RP3_N0CT3M, angielski That's fair. I never read the books or even watched the original movie, but I do have fans in my circle that have given me a bit of an indirect knowledge of the Duniverse. Even still, the acting, the cinematography, the music, everything in this movie is just amazing to me.
Big_Boss_77, angielski Have they canceled this dumpster fire yet?
PabloDiscobar, angielski Series Produced by
Jason F. Brown ... executive producer (24 episodes, 2019-2023)
Steve Gaub ... executive producer / co-producer (24 episodes, 2019-2023)
Tomasz Baginski ... executive producer (16 episodes, 2019-2023)
Sean Daniel ... executive producer (16 episodes, 2019-2023)
Lauren Schmidt Hissrich ... executive producer (16 episodes, 2019-2023)
Mike Ostrowski ... executive producer / producer / co-executive producer (16 episodes, 2019-2023)
Jaroslaw Sawko ... executive producer (16 episodes, 2019-2023)
Piotr Sikora ... executive producer (16 episodes, 2019-2023)
Simon Emanuel ... consulting producer / executive producer (16 episodes, 2019-2021)
Matthew O'Toole ... executive producer (16 episodes, 2021-2023)
Matthew Bouch ... consulting producer (12 episodes, 2021-2023)
Katie Bullock-Webster ... post producer (8 episodes, 2019)
Declan De Barra ... supervising producer (8 episodes, 2019)
Ildiko Kemeny ... co-producer (8 episodes, 2019)
Jenny Klein ... co-executive producer (8 episodes, 2019)
Sneha Koorse ... supervising producer (8 episodes, 2019)
David Minkowski ... co-producer (8 episodes, 2019)
Suzie Shearer ... line producer (8 episodes, 2019)
Mark Birmingham ... co-producer (8 episodes, 2021)
Sean Guest ... associate producer (8 episodes, 2021)
Sam J. Brown ... associate producer (8 episodes, 2023)
Ben Burt ... associate producer (8 episodes, 2023)
Javier Grillo-Marxuach ... executive producer (8 episodes, 2023)
Haily Hall ... co-producer (8 episodes, 2023)
Sasha Harris ... producer (8 episodes, 2023)
Veselin Karadjov ... line producer (8 episodes, 2023)
Tania Lotia ... supervising producer (8 episodes, 2023)
Tera Ragan ... co-producer (8 episodes, 2023)
Alik Sakharov ... executive producer (7 episodes, 2019)
Kathy Lingg ... executive producer (6 episodes, 2019)
Juan Cano Nono ... Líne Producer Canary Islands (4 episodes, 2019)
Beau DeMayo ... co-producer (2 episodes, 2019)
Stephen Surjik ... executive producer (2 episodes, 2023)
Marc Jobst ... consulting producer (1 episode, 2019)
pivot_root, God… it’s like having having an entire 8-level deep organizational structure for a team of 10 people. No wonder it’s mismanaged to shit.
loobkoob, angielski Yeah, it looks pretty bad from that list. It may not be quite as bad in practice - some of them may have their name attached because, for instance, they co-own a production company where only person is involved but all three co-owners get their names on the credits. And some of them may be involved on the technical side, some for the story side, some just for financing, etc.
But even so, that looks like far too many names to have any kind of coherent vision.
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