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Captain_Ender, w The Witcher producer blames Americans and social media for Netflix series' simplified plot

He's really blaming the execs and showrunner between the lines I think. Saying she had to "make tough decisions" means "she fucked up". It's Netflix and the showrunner who think they need to go to the lowest common denominator with scripts to appeal to Americans, especially hard fantasy/sci-fi. So he's kinda pissed at both groups really not just audiences.

It's a shame because other works like GOT 1-5 show the opposite. Go for complex, go for the source material, and audiences will be patient for it.

Madison_rogue,
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Then blame execs and showrunners, not the audience. American audiences are savvier than he thinks, just because he had one pitch that didn't fare well with American audiences doesn't mean that they won't embrace more complicated elements of The Witcher.

Plus it just sounds sad; blame audiences for something you, as a producer, can't effectively produce.

masterspace,

He wasn’t showrunner, just EP on 16 episodes, and he can’t burn the showrunner or Netflix if he wants more work in the industry.

Madison_rogue,
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I didn't say he was a showrunner.

N1cknamed, w The next Battlefield will ‘reimagine’ the series as a ‘truly connected ecosystem’
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Literally just update BF4 with new graphics, some tighter movement and gunplay and a load of new maps and you’ll have an extremely happy fanbase. Nobody cares about the Battlefield cinematic universe.

Until they do that I’ll just keep playing BF4.

iNeedScissors67,
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Agreed, just touch up BF4 and re-release it. Until then, I'm playing Battlebit.

baggachipz, w The next Battlefield will ‘reimagine’ the series as a ‘truly connected ecosystem’
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How about they "reimagine" the series as a good game instead of a pile of unbalanced, buggy hot garbage?

falsem, w The Witcher producer blames Americans and social media for Netflix series' simplified plot

Yeah, blame your customers.

Simplifying is really different from what they did which is completely alter characters, unnecessarily kill off characters, introduce new plots that didn't exist, etc. The Lord of the Rings movies, and the recent Dune movie both did a lot of that but are considered fantastic adaptations. Even Game of Thrones was an excellent adaptation for the first ~5 seasons and had huge mass market appeal while still being complex.

This is just shitty writers making excuses.

isthingoneventhis,

man the dune movie was so interesting sounding and watching it was such a … idk… it was an experience. There was so much stuff that seemed so loosely strung together to the point of feeling almost baffling. I wouldn’t think LoTR or early GoT are comparable?

falsem,

:shrug: I liked it.

C4RP3_N0CT3M,

You might need to go back and watch it again. I had a completely different experience, and I found the plot rather cohesive. It's one of the best movies I've ever seen in my opinion.

GoodEye8,

I felt like Dune needed some prior knowledge of the books to really follow the plot. Not because the plot wasn’t cohesive, but because so much plot was condensed into a movie that was already 2 and half hours long. It’s not the fault of the movie, the book is just dense. But it does end up disorienting for the average viewer who can’t instantly adjust their understanding of the universe to fully follow the plot.

C4RP3_N0CT3M,

That's fair. I never read the books or even watched the original movie, but I do have fans in my circle that have given me a bit of an indirect knowledge of the Duniverse. Even still, the acting, the cinematography, the music, everything in this movie is just amazing to me.

Kolanaki, w The Witcher producer blames Americans and social media for Netflix series' simplified plot
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Right… It’s the audience’s fault and not the show runners who outright refused to follow the books and games leading to the star of the show leaving. 🙄

Unaware7013, w The Witcher producer blames Americans and social media for Netflix series' simplified plot

Alternative headline "Person highly involved with making show blames anyone but themselves for failure"

resketreke, w Final Fantasy Creator's Latest Game Appears To Be Headed To PC
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Yes please, I've been waiting for a long time!

xNIBx, w Palia is the perfect game for chill vibes, either alone or co-op

This mmo might become a big hit. It is basically animal crossing/stardew valley/sims but on an mmo setting. The graphics/artstyle are decent and the monetization doesnt seem that bad(only cosmetic and only clothes atm).

theComposer, w Palia is the perfect game for chill vibes, either alone or co-op

I’m still confused about this game. Is it truly an MMO where hundreds of players will be running around the main towns? How will the game handle all these players romancing the same characters, for instance?

Or is it like other multiplayer survival games where it’s just you and your friends sharing a persistent world?

CraigeryTheKid,

looks like your “home” is instanced and just for you - and then you go out to the “MMO” world.

but even that doesn’t sound like “MMO”, but now every game where you can see someone random online seems to grab that description.

either way, I think it looks worth checking out, since as a man in his 40’s, I am clearly the target audience for happy fun times games like Stardew Valley, Animal Crossing, and Disney Dreamlight.

MKBandit, w The next Battlefield will ‘reimagine’ the series as a ‘truly connected ecosystem’

What does that even mean?

BudgieMania,

I have to imagine it is some kind of weird combination of the Portal mode and the CoD concept of unlocking content for a central shared mode when you buy each release or something like that

olorin99, w No Man's Sky Film?
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Lol now I kinda want to remake the video in no mans sky.

CraigeryTheKid, w The Witcher producer blames Americans and social media for Netflix series' simplified plot

Season 2 (“Book 1” in the US), I agree made some TERRIBLE changes, especially around Yennifer’s relationship with Ciri.

Having just finished Season 3, however, I feel like they mostly pulled back into following the book’s major plotlines. Sure, a TV show makes some concessions on content, but overall I felt it followed the books “okay”. Everything that happened in Thanedd was close, and everything after that too, in the final 3 episodes. Rience was the strangest change to me, since that doesn’t happen for several books and it’s Ciri’s doing.

Does the general public agree? Or are we still so mad about Season 2 that we refuse to see Season 3 positively?

Arcane_Trixster,

I’m not watching S3, knowing Cavill won’t be back. Not worth investing anymore time. The series is a failure to me.

Veraxus,
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This. I see no point in investing any more of time in this show. Netflix needs to fire everybody, pull every episode from existence, and just start over with people who actually care about the source material and are willing to invest the time, effort, and respect to do it right.

CraigeryTheKid,

I guess you two are answering my last question - we’re so mad at Season 2 that the negative verdict is decided regardless.

My point was that Season 3 seems to have pulled back and DID honor the source material much better, but I guess it was too late.

Veraxus,
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Yeah, fair, but I didn’t like the first season, either. Cavill was perfect, Joey Batey as Dandelion was… fine… and that is where the positives stopped. The show was a mess from the start and you can’t just erase those seasons if they did happen to do a little better on 3… and knowing that Cavill is out for season 4… there is just no point. I’d rather replay Witcher 3 again than ever watch another minute of that show.

CraigeryTheKid,

oof, you just reminded me - Dandelion in season 3 was… not as good as Season 1/2. Even down to the detail that every time he came on screen, my wife demanded to know what they did with his hair. That, and the strangely unnecessary sex scenes with another male.

ok ok, season 3 wasnt perfect either. but I was “surprised” that the big events at Aretuza and the major events afterward all followed the book rather closely…

Digismasher, w Star Wars Jedi: Survivor is also coming to PlayStation 4 and Xbox One

Pleasantly surprised about this announcement since I have been unwilling to part with the money for a PS5 right now, and I’ve really wanted to play the game.

LegendofDragoon, w Former Riot, Blizzard Devs Reveal Teaser For Competitive Shooter Inspired By Anime And Comics
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Well it can't be any worse than what Activision and blizzard are shoveling at us. Can't wait to see something from the new guys.

Zima,

unfortunately it could be worse with more invasive anti cheat software.

PabloDiscobar, w The Witcher producer blames Americans and social media for Netflix series' simplified plot
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Series Produced by
Jason F. Brown ... executive producer (24 episodes, 2019-2023)
Steve Gaub ... executive producer / co-producer (24 episodes, 2019-2023)
Tomasz Baginski ... executive producer (16 episodes, 2019-2023)
Sean Daniel ... executive producer (16 episodes, 2019-2023)
Lauren Schmidt Hissrich ... executive producer (16 episodes, 2019-2023)
Mike Ostrowski ... executive producer / producer / co-executive producer (16 episodes, 2019-2023)
Jaroslaw Sawko ... executive producer (16 episodes, 2019-2023)
Piotr Sikora ... executive producer (16 episodes, 2019-2023)
Simon Emanuel ... consulting producer / executive producer (16 episodes, 2019-2021)
Matthew O'Toole ... executive producer (16 episodes, 2021-2023)
Matthew Bouch ... consulting producer (12 episodes, 2021-2023)
Katie Bullock-Webster ... post producer (8 episodes, 2019)
Declan De Barra ... supervising producer (8 episodes, 2019)
Ildiko Kemeny ... co-producer (8 episodes, 2019)
Jenny Klein ... co-executive producer (8 episodes, 2019)
Sneha Koorse ... supervising producer (8 episodes, 2019)
David Minkowski ... co-producer (8 episodes, 2019)
Suzie Shearer ... line producer (8 episodes, 2019)
Mark Birmingham ... co-producer (8 episodes, 2021)
Sean Guest ... associate producer (8 episodes, 2021)
Sam J. Brown ... associate producer (8 episodes, 2023)
Ben Burt ... associate producer (8 episodes, 2023)
Javier Grillo-Marxuach ... executive producer (8 episodes, 2023)
Haily Hall ... co-producer (8 episodes, 2023)
Sasha Harris ... producer (8 episodes, 2023)
Veselin Karadjov ... line producer (8 episodes, 2023)
Tania Lotia ... supervising producer (8 episodes, 2023)
Tera Ragan ... co-producer (8 episodes, 2023)
Alik Sakharov ... executive producer (7 episodes, 2019)
Kathy Lingg ... executive producer (6 episodes, 2019)
Juan Cano Nono ... Líne Producer Canary Islands (4 episodes, 2019)
Beau DeMayo ... co-producer (2 episodes, 2019)
Stephen Surjik ... executive producer (2 episodes, 2023)
Marc Jobst ... consulting producer (1 episode, 2019)

pivot_root,

God… it’s like having having an entire 8-level deep organizational structure for a team of 10 people. No wonder it’s mismanaged to shit.

loobkoob,

Yeah, it looks pretty bad from that list. It may not be quite as bad in practice - some of them may have their name attached because, for instance, they co-own a production company where only person is involved but all three co-owners get their names on the credits. And some of them may be involved on the technical side, some for the story side, some just for financing, etc.

But even so, that looks like far too many names to have any kind of coherent vision.

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