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Sanctus, w Marvel Is 'Painfully Aware' That Its Games Are Failing To Live Up To Their Potential
@Sanctus@lemmy.world avatar

Its really not hard. They have the lion’s share of IPs but not a single person there can take a risk on a new mechanic or feature. Their problem is they want high ROI in an industry that is largely based on ephemeral measurements. You can’t predict the next hit, so you have to climb out on limbs and take risks to stand out.

cantstopthesignal,

You can predict the next hit if you understand that a good game requires good game play. Just like a good movie requires good writing. But they hired EA, the sequel factory.

Sanctus,
@Sanctus@lemmy.world avatar

You say that, but Space Station 13 never became mainstream. Mischief Maker was left to rot and never remade. Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles fucking removed the features we loved in the remake. Monster Rancher isn’t made anymore. Theres a host of IPs with great gameplay that are now lost to history. If it was so predictable companies would do it, because it makes money and companies solely exist to make money. But thats not the case. They churn out the same SaaS digital storefronts endlessly chasing the easy money. Nobody would have guessed Rainworld would have made the money it did, yet it triumphed. There is no formula for capturing the attention of apes with star-brains long enough to garner fame.

Klystron, (edited ) w Obsidian's Josh Sawyer jokes that he's waiting for a call from Microsoft to make 'Pillars of Eternity 3. But I don't want it to be a joke.

It’d be pretty sick if after seeing the massive success bg3 was and how they were wildly off with their prediction, Microsoft pushes an order for pillars of eternity 3.

While I’m in this bizzaro world where Microsoft makes good decisions, I’d also like a Ferrari.

Caligvla,
@Caligvla@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

My fear is that they’d want to copy DoS2/BG3 and the resulting game would look and play nothing like Pillars.

prograhammingdev,

Pillars 2 had a turn based mode, didn’t it? The gameplay is mostly there.

Caligvla,
@Caligvla@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

It was added months post-launch as an afterthought in reaction to DoS2 though, the first game doesn’t even have a turn-based mode.

prograhammingdev,

I know the first game didn’t, by the time I played the sequel (though I didn’t enjoy that one nearly as much as the first) I did recall it being an option.

yads, w Frostpunk 2 Preview: Less Frost and More Punks in This Daunting Society Simulator Sequel

Definitely sounds like an interesting update to the game

Sanctus, w Nickelodeon All-Star Brawl 2 - Official Ember Spotlight
@Sanctus@lemmy.world avatar

Ember is the reason I have my feitshes.

LouLimes, w Marvel Is 'Painfully Aware' That Its Games Are Failing To Live Up To Their Potential

Gotg gameplay was just not good. The writing though, was amazing.

NocturnalEngineer,

It was definitely love/hate playing GOTG, it frustrated me to no end. The gameplay was so bad in places I couldn’t complete various sections without referencing player guides.

But I was compelled to complete it because of how well the story was told. I did enjoyed it, but I’m never going to replay it again, which is a shame.

TheDarkKnight,

Honestly its the one marvel game outside of spider-man that I liked in recent memory

mrnotoriousman,

I loved it and immediately went for plat after I finished the first time. The combat was a little rough at times but not really all that challenging. Way better than the movies by far. The characters, story, and acting were all phenomenal

prole,

I don’t remember having any issues with gameplay in GotG. The battles got slightly repetitive, but I didn’t have much trouble beating it in hard mode (and loved it). Weren’t that many battles I had to try more than once or twice.

Great game.

DigitalPaperTrail,

I agree the gameplay turned meh pretty fast for me; it devolved to just cycling through all the teammates' powers as they came up, while holding a direction to circle strafe most of everything with the occasional dodge.

and I'm not a fan of using a specific weapon for a specific enemy just because it was hardcoded to work (e.g. the western DmC: Devil May Cry before the rework). I much prefer weapons being suited for specific enemies because their functionality counters specific behaviors, such as their movement patterns

cantstopthesignal, w Marvel Is 'Painfully Aware' That Its Games Are Failing To Live Up To Their Potential

We want a game that everyone likes, let’s hire EA!

Edgelord_Of_Tomorrow,

We want an MMO, let’s hire… uh, Square Enix I guess?

DragonTypeWyvern,

Don’t people love FFXIV?

MrScottyTay,

Square do currently make the best mmo, but that’s not the team that worked on avengers, not even in the same continent. Plus avengers was not meant to be an mmo but a live service like destiny. I will not cry when they eventually disappear.

nanoUFO,
@nanoUFO@sh.itjust.works avatar

Do people still care about marvel? If a huge ip can’t carry an average+ game then that ip isn’t really that important.

Mini_Moonpie, w Marvel Is 'Painfully Aware' That Its Games Are Failing To Live Up To Their Potential

My theory is that they’re not actually trying to make games. They are trying to make money printers.

HidingCat,

Probably why a decent (from various reviews and player reports) solo campaign in the Avengers was saddled with a shitty live-service component.

Mini_Moonpie,

That was definitely the impression that I got from the reviews and it’s a shame.

flumph, w Final Fantasy 14 Player Becomes First to Earn All 2,000+ Achievements
@flumph@programming.dev avatar

That’s pretty nuts. I bet a lot of planning went into optimizing the time spent each week to make the most progress.

pastermil,

Sprint planning, but for FF?

Goo_bubbs, w It's Official: Marvel's Avengers Is Gone

It had a decent single player campaign, although it was too short. The live service end game was extremely repetitive and should have never existed.

All they had to do was make a solid single player game, like Insomniac is doing with Spider-Man. Oh well.

conciselyverbose, w Grand Theft Auto 6 fans have become so desperate for information they've convinced themselves that the moon is teasing an upcoming reveal

I would absolutely add 20 super obscure conspiracy nut teasers to every promo and just never acknowledge anything if I was working for one of these companies.

sugar_in_your_tea,

You don’t even need to try very hard, just throw in some nonsense and someone will make up a plausible explanation.

Kolanaki,
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just posts “a” to the company Twitter

conciselyverbose,

I'm talking like throwing some messages in binary through specific set of sub pixels of images for a year that all come through because they're my actual plans, then switching them to obviously insane nonsense that will take way longer to disprove and finding a way to get someone to notice.

oddspinnaker,

I’m always curious about how hard it is to make insane nonsense that’s hard to disprove. Like, 100% randomization seems like it could be easier to detect vs. more believable things added by people.

So then you have to spend time making it believable…

conciselyverbose, (edited )

I was thinking kind of like steganography.

"If you take the green subpixel at (46,85), (75,32)... it contains just enough letters you could read as words that form a story detail. And in this post it's a gameplay hint. And this one is a character name" but the same locations enough times in a row that it's hard to be random. Then post a crazy fan theory post after the early ones are known facts about the game and I've embedded crazy shit in a few.

NegativeLookBehind,
@NegativeLookBehind@kbin.social avatar

Nut teasers, you say?

GrayBackgroundMusic, w FOUNDRY — Factory-Building Sandbox | Announcement Trailer

Ooooh. This could be good. Trailer makes it look like satisfactory, which is fine. The systems involved will be the real proof.

I can’t wait!

Edgelord_Of_Tomorrow, w The PC Gaming Show will return this November as PC Gaming Show: Most Wanted

Is it just going to be 15 Epic exclusives nobody will remember?

smallaubergine, w Team17 hit by redundancies - UK firm latest to suffer layoffs

Why do the British call it "redundancies". Seems like a weird way of saying we're laying people off

TheOneCurly,
@TheOneCurly@lemmy.theonecurly.page avatar

I think it implies the company is continuing on but that job is no longer a position at the company. Redundant or unnecessary as opposed to a position that they intend to fill again, as you would with a firing.

Lay off is weirder imo.

sugar_in_your_tea,

Yeah, layoffs feel temporary (like furloughed government employees). I dislike both terms though, I prefer “downsizing” or something like that to clearly indicate that it’s not temporary and your job wasn’t worthless, it’s just that the company needs fewer people employed to meet budget targets.

my_hat_stinks,

Something that is redundant is not needed, it’s a descriptive term. Layoff is a relatively recent US euphemism meaning relax or rest which became associated with non-working periods for seasonal work then evolved to cover redundancies. The US term is the weird one here.

smallaubergine,

Interesting! I see your point, appreciate it

sugar_in_your_tea,

They’re both poor terms.

To me, “redundancy” means someone you don’t need, as in, their job is worthless, and “layoff” means the company can’t afford to keep everyone, so they’re temporarily reducing the workforce. What we see so often isn’t either of those, it’s just headcount reduction or downsizing.

Maalus,

Redundant doesn’t mean worthless. It means that you have a duplicate or something, or someone is already doing the job that you are doing. Your work still is worth something, it’s just not needed anymore.

pastermil,

In IT, redundancy can mean reserve, or back up; something extra in case something broke.

FullOfBallooons, w Weekly what have you been playing discussion - week of October, 2, 2023
@FullOfBallooons@leminal.space avatar

I finished the story in TOTK on Sunday, and I just started Baldur’s Gate 3. But I’m starting to wonder if I should pause BG3 for a minute and play through something a little smaller rather than going from one huge game to another.

Blizzard,

Play Baldur’s Gate 3, nothing else matters!

Delphia, w Weekly what have you been playing discussion - week of October, 2, 2023

Jagged Alliance 3.

Love me some turn based, action point, squad combat action. Theres some flaws and its a bit limited in a few ways, but its a solid title.

Wish the genre got more love.

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