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Thcdenton, w Rainbow-like pattern found on planet outside solar system
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givesomefucks, w Powerful X-class solar flare slams Earth, triggering radio blackout over the Pacific Ocean

The abundance of back-to-back solar events has led scientists to think the sun may have entered its explosive era of peak activity, known as solar maximum — which seems to be starting a year earlier than previous forecasts predicted. However, researchers will have to wait until the sun “calms down” to know for sure.

What we do know is that X-class flares are most common during solar maximum, which is part of the sun’s 11-year solar cycle. So far in 2024, seven X-class flares, including the latest one, have burst from the sun, which is already half the number that reached Earth in 2023, Live Science previously reported.

On a long enough timescale, we’re gonna be hit by a big one.

I remember like a decade ago they were saying it hits a developed area, it’ll blow out all the transformers, and on that scale no country could replace them all for a very long time.

Australis13,

I agree. There were articles and documentaries about 20 years ago that I remember featuring these sort of events. The continent affected would take 20-30 years to rebuild its electricity grid.

givesomefucks,

I’ll just never get over how “we” (science I guess) know that stuff like this isn’t a question of if, but when.

And we just don’t seem to get ready for it.

Like, Y2K we saw coming and everyone handled it in time. But if there’s no firm date on something, everyone with the power to do anything just ignores it.

As a society it just feels like we’re living paycheck to paycheck. Can’t worry about next year cuz rents due in two weeks shit.

It’s just not a good way to go about things.

Australis13,

In general, people are appallingly bad at weighing up long-term vs short-term stuff, both in terms of risks and benefits. It's even worse when, as you say, there's no definite deadline or it doesn't directly affect those who can do something about it.

Rolder,

“No electricity” definitely sounds like an “everyone” problem lol

deafboy,
@deafboy@lemmy.world avatar

If it’s an EVERYONE problem, clearly SOMBODY is doing something, so I can safely ignore it. /s

slazer2au,

What you didn’t see was the guy who made the problem in the 60s warn everyone about it from the 70s onward until his retirement in the 90s, then everyone say oh shit, he is right.

sploosh,
givesomefucks,

Yes, we get hit by them all the time…

What everyone else is talking about is a big one.

sploosh,

The Carrington event was a big one. It is estimated to have been an X40 flare. This article is about an X1.1 flare. Telegraph poles caught fire. The auroras were so bright people woke up and started making breakfast even though it was the middle of the night. They were visible as far south as central Mexico! If we got hit by a Carrington scale flare today we would be repairing the power grid for the next half century.

Rolder,

I believe it’s possible to avoid if the proper protocols are in place. Namely, the grid has to be turned off completely before the flare hits and then things will mostly be fine. Just wonder how well we can predict these events.

Australis13,

My understanding is that we actually don't have much of a warning (under an hour), since a CME has to reach the satellite at the Lagrange point between Earth and the Sun for us to know it's about to hit Earth. According to the article below, this includes power companies, but I remain skeptical that there's enough organisation in place to shut down the North American, European or Asian grids in 15 minutes.

https://www.space.com/coronal-mass-ejections-cme

jordanlund, (edited ) w After all of This Time Searching for Aliens, is it The Zoo Hypothesis or Nothing?
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FTA:

“Either extraterrestrial civilizations (ETCs) are incredibly rare (or non-existent), or they are deliberately avoiding contact with us (aka. the “Zoo Hypothesis“).”

There is a 3rd possibility - it may not be deliberate.

Our position in the Milky Way is really out on the ass-end of it. We are nowhere near galactic central. If our current understanding of slower than light travel is correct, it just may not be possible for other civilizations to reach us.

When it comes to communications, and our radio sweeps of the galaxy turning up nothing, well, we’re assuming any advanced civilization is still using radio transmissions.

Look at our recent experiment with laser based communication:

www.cnn.com/2023/12/18/world/…/index.html

100 or so years after radio communication was widespread, we have the technology to eliminate it. There may be other methods orders of magnitude beyond that. We could be awash in alien communication streams we just can’t percieve because ours are too primitive.

themeatbridge,

There are also hundreds of other theories that can potentially explain it. Like, 100 years really isn’t a long time on cosmic scales. Maybe we’re late to the party and intelligent life wiped itself out already. Maybe we’re early, and we will wipe ourselves out before a new intelligence even figures out where the copy paper is.

For as big as space is, time is bigger.

evranch,

We don’t want to be near the galactic center, there’s too much radiation. A quiet spot out on one of the arms away from supernovae and active objects is a much better place for life to evolve.

At this point our own radio is even too advanced for an alien civilization to detect. An interesting thing about radio is that aside from a few lingering powerful analog signals (AM/FM radio, active radar) our modern spread-spectrum radio is hard to distinguish from background noise. It’s an interesting consequence of information theory, as bandwidth and noise tolerance grow, if you aren’t looking for a signal it becomes almost invisible. We also do a lot with very little power now due to these amazing encoding methods, when I was a kid and the analog cell phone was novel we would have outright said that a phone could never communicate directly with satellites. Not enough power or antenna in your pocket. Yet here we are.

So any civilization that develops radio is only likely to send out a short burst of detectable radio before disappearing within 100 years, even without switching to an alternate technology. This makes radio an almost impossible thing to search for in a vast galaxy where time can separate us even more than space.

sunzu2, w 'It's extremely worrisome.' NASA's James Webb Space Telescope faces potential 20% budget cut just 4 years after launch

We should sell to SpaceX for cheap since NASA can't do anything right!

Did not they do this with space lunch too lol

Gut it from the inside, then provide tech and talent to a corpo who then charges you for the services you knew how to do in house...

JoMiran,
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I have no idea why you got downvoted for pointing out the obvious scam. I guess the sarcasm didn’t translate well.

pjwestin, w Don’t panic, but an asteroid has a 1.9% chance of hitting Earth in 2032
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That’s 0.9% more than the last time I checked. I know those are still really low odds, but we can hope…

xor,

don’t worry, it’ll just be like a small nuke, not a planet killer… (until they update the size estimates)

psud,

One of the things they’re doing is calculating what it’s orbit would have to be to hit the Earth, and where it would have had to have been on its last orbit to be in that orbit

So they can look at any astronomical images of that part of the sky from then and see if it’s in the right place

If they find images of the right part of the sky at the right time and the asteroid is not in it, they know it’s not on an orbit that will hit the Earth in 2032

quediuspayu,

I science podcast I follow already warned last week that the probability would go up at first as they narrow down its trajectory.
They gave the example of a fan closing, as it gets narrow, the earth represents a bigger percentage of the remaining fan. If you keep closing the fan the Earth eventually will fall outside the fan and the percentage drop to zero.

Unless it turns out that it is dead center.

HurlingDurling, w James Webb Space Telescope Finds Stunning Evidence for Alternate Theory of Gravity - The Debrief
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Can I get an ELI5?

partiallycyber,

Disclaimer: I’m not well versed in astrophysics.

Ok, so: you know how Earth is part of the solar system? And the solar system is part of a large collection of stars and planets called a galaxy?

Well, there’s lots of galaxies out there! And scientists for a long time have been trying to figure out how they formed - how did all the stars get close to each other? Why aren’t they just randomly drifting around?

Currently, everyone believes that there’s this magic stuff called “dark matter” that pulled the stars together to make galaxies. Kinda like how magnets pull things close to them!

And because galaxies are so big it would take a long time to pull the stars close together! Which means young galaxies would look less bright because the stars aren’t all close together yet, like they are with older galaxies.

So that’s what everyone believes.

But we’re getting pictures from a really strong telescope that’s showing us that young galaxies are brighter than we expected! Which is weird and exciting because it means that young galaxies might have been pulled together faster than we used to think! And our old theories about galaxy creation might be wrong!

There’s a theory that explains how galaxies could come together quickly, without dark matter, but it doesn’t really fit with many other theories we have about how the world works, so lots of people are thinking really hard to figure out how they might fit together.

And that’s what science is all about! Finding out new information that shows you that you were wrong in the past, and using that information to figure out new ways to act and think in the future!

HurlingDurling,
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That’s awesome! Thanks for the explanation!

quicksand,

Thanks for Bill Nye-ing this for me. Appreciate your summary

xkbx, w NASA thinks it found a moon light-years away spewing gas

There’sh a moon shpewin’ gash a lot closher than ya’d think, Trebek

Oh-ho, hohohoho!

Ghyste, w Planet Nine: Is the search for this elusive world nearly over?

No.

JackGreenEarth,
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Batterige, or whoever it is’s, law of headlines ig

deezbutts,

Godwin

Ghyste,

Betterige is correct.

prole, w Most Astronauts Get ‘Space Headaches.’ Scientists Want to Know Why

First symptom of space madness

conditional_soup, w The US government seems serious about developing a lunar economy

Nope. No. Nuh-uh. Stop fucking up this planet, then we can talk. I’m drawing a line in the sand, I’m going to become an eco-terrorist if I see a fucking Coca-Cola ad when I look into the night sky.

Audacious,

All I think of is the movie, The Time Machine. Spoiler, the main character goes forward in time and sees the moon breaking apart, causing a collapse of civilisation.

ClopClopMcFuckwad, w Salads Grown in Space May Pose a Deadly Problem
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We know that the International Space Station (ISS) is home to a lot of aggressive bacteria and fungi

Damn, TILd

mozz, w The Cosmic Bat Nebula
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It legit looks like an AI image generator was told to generate a nebula that's also a bat

Anticorp,

I feel like this has definitely been touched up.

Mr_Blott,

Pervert

mozz,
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I highly doubt NASA is in the business of doing that (and FWIW Snopes agrees with me).

Anticorp,

Read the comment right above yours:

lemm.ee/comment/8535233

mozz,
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There's a big difference between "touched up" as in, fix the contrast and adjust the color balance, versus "touched up" as in let's make a nebula look like a bat. The first, me and Ricky are in agreement that they're doing. The second, me and Snopes feel strongly that they're not doing.

rickyrigatoni,

NASA always touches up their photographs to add color and contrast or else space would look very boring.

myster0n, w Most Planets in the Cosmos Probably Don’t Orbit Stars

There are NO planets that don’t orbit stars : once they don’t orbit a star they don’t follow the modern definition of a planet anymore

very_well_lost,

The modern definition of “planet” only includes things that orbit the sun.

Honestly, the IAU’s definition of a planet is pretty useless.

Olhonestjim,

Rocky planets, gas giant planets, ice giant planets, dwarf planets, super Earth planets, hycean planets, lava planets, rogue planets…

some_guy,

We’ll not have science in this discussion about science!

dmtalon, w NASA Shuts Off Voyager Science Instrument, More Power Cuts Ahead to Keep Both Probes Going

everything about these two spacecraft is just amazing. It’s going to be quite a sad day when they transmit their last byte of data to our little planet. Reading about all the things we’ve done to keep talking to them. The redundancies that they’re running on etc… Fascinating stuff

vga, w Don’t panic, but an asteroid has a 1.9% chance of hitting Earth in 2032

Can we launch a satellite at it, perhaps detonate a huge nuke on it to make that chance higher?

Wait, we could just detonate all those huge nukes here right now. Show that stupid asteroid.

rickyrigatoni,

Nuke the far side of the moon and plunge it into earth. Give the asteroid inadequacy issues.

threelonmusketeers,

Wouldn’t detonating on the forward side rather than the zenith side be most effective at lowering the perigee of the moon?

rickyrigatoni,

all i remember from my ksp days is add more struts

Krik,

all i remember from my ksp days is add more struts boosters

Fixed it for you.

rickyrigatoni,

Alas, without the struts, the boosters shall return unto The Lord, leaving thine kerbalnauts Kerbinbound.

Comment105,

You think humanity would be in this spot if the average person had a fucking clue whatsoever?

Rivalarrival,
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Tell me you’ve never played Kerbal Space Program without telling me you’ve never played Kerbal Space Program.

SARGE,
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Project Sundial can still make a comeback.

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