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ChrisLicht, do gaming w EVE Online - Down the Rabbit Hole

Serious question: How does EVE survive the arrival of AI?

skygirl,

EVE has been combating bots for years, optimal gameplay is often relatively simple to automate. I’m not sure they’ll be all that disruptive.

(and the time it would take to implement data collection for a learning model is unlikely to be spent by anyone, for how much effort it would be considering the questionable gains over ‘dumb’ bots)

Cornelius_Wangenheim,

I haven’t played in nearly a decade, but it used to be an open secret that the Eve economy wouldn’t function without high sec bot miners flooding the market with tritanium.

bitsplease,

You really don’t need any AI (assuming you mean LLMs like ChatGPT) to bot the shit out of Eve - the way the game fundamentally functions makes it dead simple to bot (it’s not like WoW where you have to deal with pathfinding or positioning for combat) - you could write a mining bot in a weekend, and it’s dead hard to catch because “normal” mining basically looks indistinguishable from botting

0xtero, do gaming w EVE Online - Down the Rabbit Hole

Holy crap this was amazing work.
I was active during "the Providence Wars" (shoutout to all Ushra'Khan peeps) and it's probably the most immersive MMO-experience I've ever had.

Good times with 4am alarm clock stront hauling ops

emill1984, do muzyka w Cold Blue - Live at Transmission Poland 2023
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cc @bobiko

Squizzy, do games w Mortal Kombat 1 - Official Omni-Man Gameplay Trailer

The Dodge and fatality are brilliant, some of the other moves are generic and others are just random and not at all to do with him specifically.

Tremor looks cool though.

tuckerm,

I wasn't sure what kind of gameplay style they would give him, considering that he and Homelander are both going to be in the game, and both of them are basically "when you want to have a Superman in your story but definitely can't get permission."

Hopefully the dodge turns out to be significant when playing as him. It looks like a lot of guy-throwing-punches otherwise. :S

Frogster8, do games w Lies of P - Director's Letter

Copied from reddit user u/iamshieldstick on reddit because I hate having to watch an 8m video for a 1m read of info.

Summary

  • Thank you for making the game surpass 1 million copies sold!
  • The highest priority for the team is developing the DLC and working on the sequel. Brainstorming and exploring different aspects of the projects.
  • Planning another patch in November (exact dates are still being discussed).
  • Expect some balances in the weapon assembly system
  • Rising dodge will be provided as a default skill, eliminating the need to unlock it from the P-Organ. This is to ease the difficulty in the early stages of the game specifically against the shovel puppet (aka Pancake Bot).
  • Polendina will sell 2 additional Quartz from the first stage of his shop.
  • They will give Alidoro costumes to all players as a token of gratitude, including his mask
  • They will introduce an extra slot for facial accessories, enabling the wearing of hats and glasses at the same time.
  • They are planning to add new wearables in the game - the Alchemist’s Hat (Venigni Hat) and a brand new pair of glasses!
  • Aside from these, several other elements are currently in preparation. For a comprehensive overview of the final contents, please refer to the upcoming patch notes
  • They are grateful to the players for praises and compliments on the music. They are currently in the process of preparing the release of the soundtrack. The collection will have nearly all the music from Lies of P, totaling more than 60 tracks.
  • They are also working more diligently and investing considerable thought and effort to meet the expectations in the Wo Long Fallen Dynasty crossover and make the collaboration of the highest quality.
  • Working on DLC - they are hiring new developers to join their team.
  • Shared some sketches from the DLC. These images are merely the tip of an iceberg. Let your imagination go wild and anticipate what’s to come.
simple, do games w Lies of P - Director's Letter

Great updates all around. I wonder if the DLC will release before Elden Ring’s DLC at this point.

Kolanaki,
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I’ve just been dying for a scrap of news for Shadow of the Erdtree. They just announced it, with a name, and then have been silent since.

magic_lobster_party,

My suspicion is that they will release a trailer at VGA, just like how they announced AC6. Hopefully it’s not releasing long after that.

WorldieBoi, do games w DotA 2 - The Ringmaster

Great teaser man! Axe deserved it.

pete_the_cat, do games w Metal Gear Solid Delta: Snake Eater vs Metal Gear Solid 3 Comparison

Nice! I didn’t even know that this was happening!

Callie, do games w Metal Gear Solid Delta: Snake Eater vs Metal Gear Solid 3 Comparison
@Callie@pawb.social avatar

Doesn’t seem like that fair of a comparison. MGS3 HD is a finished game while the trailer they released of MGS3 Delta is an in-engine preview which mostly just shows what the engine CAN DO not necessarily what the game is going to look like

overkill0485,

Very true. What with many games coming out…questionably rushed on launch, this footage should be taken with a grain of nanomachines until the final release.

echo64,

Eh, it’s just unreal engine 5. It’s fairly proven on this level of visual fidelity and then some. I would be shocked if it looked worse than this on release

stagen, do gaming w Star Engine Tech Demo (Star Citizen 4.0) No Commentary CitizenCon 2953 4K
@stagen@feddit.dk avatar

Star Citizen 4.0 ?! Can we have Star Citizen 1.0 first maybe?

t3rmit3,

It’s alpha 4.0

They’re currently on 3.21

stagen,
@stagen@feddit.dk avatar

I think my point still holds. :D

t3rmit3,

I mean, no? Version numbers don’t dictate the release readiness of something.

You want them to just call what they have now 1.0, before they implement the Alpha 4.0 features shown there? Because that’s the gist of what you said.

stagen,
@stagen@feddit.dk avatar

Conventional version numbering (afaik) lead up to 1.0 as the release candidate.

Cagi, (edited )

Most often in gaming, yeah, but there are no rules. PURE CHAOS, BABY!!!

JohnEdwa,

Usually yes if you use only numbers, but when you use alpha/beta/release cycles etc, it’s not that uncommon to have them start from 1.0 as well.

As an example, the fifth phase of minecraft dev started with “Minecraft Alpha v1.0.0” and once it got to v1.2.6, the next was “Minecraft Beta v1.0.0”. The proper Minecraft 1.0 came after Beta 1.8.1.

t3rmit3,

That was a standard that existed because of older, ‘linear’ SDLCs. It stopped being the case when Agile development took over. When you’re using Waterfall, and all your milestones are planned out before a single line of code is written, you can do that.

Modern software development doesn’t work like that, and it’s silly to use nth-degree nested decimals (0.1.0, 0.1.1.2) when you can just use 1.1, 2.13, etc, and call something RC1.0 and 1.0 on release without bothering with internal version numbers or project codenames (or just keep the working version numbers anyways).

Sivick314, (edited ) do gaming w Star Engine Tech Demo (Star Citizen 4.0) No Commentary CitizenCon 2953 4K
@Sivick314@universeodon.com avatar

@SeaOfTranquility star citizen is a scam

Cagi,

The moon landing was fake!

Sivick314,
@Sivick314@universeodon.com avatar

@Cagi you could have built a real rocket with the money they spent

Cagi,

Revenue is not the same as money spent. They have raked in enough money to build to build a rocket, so have many games. That’s a good thing. All you are doing is calling them successful.

Stillhart, do gaming w Star Engine Tech Demo (Star Citizen 4.0) No Commentary CitizenCon 2953 4K

I am in shock at the number of people upvoting positive comments about this scam project. Until they refund all the people they defrauded to get the project off the ground, they will continue to be dragged down by their own fucking karma.

Suckers want to spend money on it now, knowing everything we know now? That’s on you. But plenty of us didn’t know we were being conned at the time.

worsedoughnut,
@worsedoughnut@lemdro.id avatar

I will never let myself live down the stupidity and shame of falling for their bullshit not once, but twice. I’m ~$150 poorer thanks to my impressionable college-brain thinking their “complete in a few years” line back in 2014 was even remotely possible.

interolivary,
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Well, think of it so that you spent $150 on a class on media literacy and a crash course on the dangers of unethical business practices.

Hadriscus,

That’s a constructive way to look at it

interolivary,
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It’s sort of how I try to view my past fuckups: I can’t change the past by feeling like an idiot for making some mistake, but I can try to learn to not make the same mistakes again (and instead make new and exciting mistakes) and learn to “forgive myself” in a sense.

Fuckups are inevitable parts of life, and beating myself up over mistakes won’t stop me from making new ones. I do need to learn from them when I make them, so I might as well do it in a way that’s less unpleasant and doesn’t require carrying around an ever-growing pile of memories labeled “I’m an idiot for doing […]”

Sivick314,
@Sivick314@universeodon.com avatar

@Stillhart @SeaOfTranquility even if it comes out its gonna be pay to win garbage. They sold goddamned star destroyers for thousands of dollars, you think those won't have an advantage?

I can't believe there's people who still defend the amount of time and money that's gone into this. It boggles the mind.

Cagi, (edited )

Spending more than a basic access package is absolute stupidity and those that do it and regret it have no one to blame but themselves. I spent $45 dollars and play the exact same game and can buy most of those expensive ships with in game money after a few days of playing.

I have had hundreds of hours of great times in Star Citizen. Your anecdotal experience and very emotional hatred for this project because of your own bad financial choices doesn’t make my good experience, the most common experience, untrue. The massive, growing number of active users trumps your loud minoroty’s passionate hatered. Hatered 100% based on hot, salty tears because you wasted your own money on pretend spaceships like a spoiled child, not based on an objective look at things. You were 100% informed about the realities of this project, you just ignored it. I know this because I’ve been following it too and didn’t spend buckets of money on a videogame that isn’t even done yet. Because that would be really irresponsible of me.

This game keeps making money and keeps adding more users. This is because it is fun to play for more people than not. Otherwise they would be failing after this many years. Grow up, get a life, focus on games you like, ignore the ones you don’t like a healthy adult. Don’t spend money on speculative projects if you don’t want the project to change, caveats have been everywhere saying as much since day one. The only person that lied to you was you.

Yawnder,

I personally don’t like the game at all. Some mechanics are interesting, but the game being pay to win and “shit on new players all you want, there is no consequences” just makes me never want to start it again. I really thought there would be some semblance of PvE possible, but you’re always in a PvP setting.

That being said though, while I do hate the dev process, and find it disingenuous, it’s not a scam at all.

Cagi, (edited )

Not enjoying the game is a fair criticism. It is slow paced and there is no pvp off switch, only things you can do to minimize risk by learning best practices. It’s not for everyone. It’s going for a sci-fi second life vibe, it’s not very gamey. I don’t think everyone expects that. And the prototype criminality system is rather useless right now, you’re right, so you get griefers and undeserved fines here and there. I can still have a lot of fun despite these things, but I can totally see it being not worth everyone’s time, especially for the lesser flushed out jobs. I have had my share of bug induced rage quits.

But yeah, they are making a huge game in good faith, any claim of it being a scam is childish. Any claim that it’s not fun is a valid opinion if they’ve actually tried it.

They know whale hunting is paying for the game, without them it’d be a tiny, indy, space game we’d have all forgotten about by now like they thought they’d make back in the original in Kickstarter. Some people have better stuff than me because they earned it, some just bought it, but it’s more RPG than competitive shooter and the in-game progression is fair so far so it hasn’t been world breaking yet, plus it ads a lot of diversity and multicrew options right out the gates. So it’s not great, but it’s less shady than premium currencies, battle passes, or loot boxes to me.

Nighed,
@Nighed@sffa.community avatar

I prefer that they are spending the money one actually developing advanced/new engine technologies than just releasing a half baked cames and a huge profit.

They got loads more money than they expected and increased the scope to match.

(I agree on the pricy ships though)

Even if they went bust and the game failed, I would be happy if other big studios got the engine.

jarfil,

Before Star Citizen got announced, I tried to get up a project that would’ve been better, bigger, and far more revolutionary… only I didn’t lie about it, so funding fell on blank stares at best, and a bunch of insults at worst.

Congrats, you voted with your wallet to get conned, so you got what you voted for. Same with No Man’s Sky.

The average citizen has no vision or perception of the costs involved, so you either con people, or nothing gets done.

DdCno1,

Are you a well-known developer though? One of the reasons why Starfield attracted so much attention was the name Chris Roberts attached to it. As flawed as his legacy is, he’s a household name in the industry. Are you? What was your project about? How big was your team?

jarfil,

Precisely, you just described what’s needed to pull a con. My project was just an engine capable of running a real-scale galaxy with consistent time travel, we had no great concept artists capable of churning out eye candy marketing material. Should have made it a solo project about digging mines, or something.

ChairmanMeow, do gaming w Star Engine Tech Demo (Star Citizen 4.0) No Commentary CitizenCon 2953 4K
@ChairmanMeow@programming.dev avatar

I like the person casually walking into the fire at 19:05. I also noticed reflections in the water near the edges of the screen don’t show properly, most noticeably at the end of the video.

Amazing tech demo, but I wonder if they’re focusing on the right things. Physics-based nosebleeds are cool, but not as noticeable as getting reflections right.

barsoap,

I also noticed reflections in the water near the edges of the screen don’t show properly,

It’s called screen-space reflections: Things that aren’t on screen don’t reflect because, well, they’re not rendered. The alternative is either not having reflections, having the “screen” not be a rectangle but the inside of a sphere, or, and that’s even more expensive, raytracing.

It’s a bog-standard technique and generally people don’t notice, which is why it’s good enough. Remember the rule #1 of gamedev: Even if not in doubt, fake it. It’s all smoke and mirrors and you want it like that because the alternative is 1fps.

Hadriscus,

You can also do overscan, but that’s costly since you’re rendering a bigger picture (I am not a rendering engineer but have experience with offline rendering)

barsoap,

Well yes I was answering under the assumption of “eradicate 100% of artefacts”, and as long as you don’t render all the perspectives there’s always going to be some angle somewhere that you’re missing.

Practically everything in rendering is a terrible hack (including common raytracers as they’re not spectral) but realism is overrated, anyway.

potterman28wxcv, do gaming w Discovery Freelancer Multiplayer - Official v5.0 Release Gameplay Trailer

Looks cool! This reminds me of Freespace, another beautiful space fighter game

atocci, do gaming w Star Engine Tech Demo (Star Citizen 4.0) No Commentary CitizenCon 2953 4K

Oh, so they're like, actually making something with all that money, huh. Wow

Cagi, (edited )

We’ve been trying to tell y’all this for years, we just want you to have fun and not listen to horrendous “journalists” that smear Star Citizen for clicks. But you don’t create multiple offices across the world with over 1000 full time employees and dozens of third party contractors if you’re trying to scam your fans. You also can’t create a AAA studio from the ground up in just a few years. This studio started with 8 people in a basement and it grew slowly, because you have to. Only so many people are looking for work at a time and only so many of them are hirable. It took them 10 years just to have as many devs as other AAA studios, but they knew they had the budget to go AAA from early on. So for a long time there weren’t enough people to deliver a game of this scope in a reasonable time. They knew it, we knew it, it was part of the plan. They were hiring like mad across the world for years and years because the payoff in the end will be a well supported AAA game like no other. Now that they are chugging along at full speed, people are starting to see what the rest of us have been trying to show you. Yes, Chris Roberts wants to be a billionaire CEO. But he also wants to build a rad game in good faith and has the money to do so.

So yeah, it’s taken a while and will be a while still, but it’s a genuinely fun game to play, even now. If it goes belly up tomorrow I’ve already got my money’s worth of enjoyment out of it. Every quarter, new massive updates drop. Once Squadron 42 is launched and running smoothly I think it will change a lot of hearts and minds. Just play SC during a free fly week. It’s janky as early access games always are, but genuinely a fun time.

You should all be angry at the shitty hit pieces that deprived you guys of quality online scifi shenanigans by lying to you about this game and remember gaming news isn’t always good journalism, sometimes reputable sites will post tabloid garbage because there are no rules, only shareholders and click quotas.

optissima,

A AAA game company needs to release a AAA game to be one, so while they may be poised to be one in the future, they haven’t reached that label yet.

Cagi,

I suppose, if you want to argue symantics. Their intention is to build a AAA game is my meaning.

optissima,

You’re right, but I think its important to recognize that important distinction, otherwise some, such as myself in the past, have been lead to believe that they had previously released a successful game

shrugal, (edited )

Always have been, that’s why calling it a scam has always been ridiculous. You can think about the feasibility of the project and quality of their decisions what you want, but they were always very honest and transparent about the work they are doing and the huge goal they are chasing.

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