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DoucheBagMcSwag, do games w Game prices should have increased with every new generation, former PlayStation US boss says

This is the fucktard that said he could not understand why people wanted to play old games

time.com/…/playstation-4-ps4-pro-psvr-sales/

“This looks ancient, why would anyone want to play this…?”

Fuck him

ampersandrew, do games w Game prices should have increased with every new generation, former PlayStation US boss says
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I think even if they did, we’d still have arrived at exactly where we are right now. They sold more copies of games because, after inflation, the games became cheaper and more accessible for the average consumer. Now that prices are rising again, that average consumer is getting priced out, and they’re not making up for that volume in the higher price. $70 seems to be what the highest tier of production value can get away with in 2025 if they’re maximizing sales, GTA and Mario Kart notwithstanding, as they’re outliers.

Nima, do games w Former BioWare exec producer says EA was pitched multiple times to remaster the first three Dragon Age games
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ITT: Origins purists. Doing their purity thing. 🙏

jordanlund, do games w Former BioWare exec producer says EA was pitched multiple times to remaster the first three Dragon Age games
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Unlike Mass Effect, Dragon Age was never a good game. 1 looked like an OG Xbox game instead of 360 and 2 was just awful.

overload,

Agree with DA2 and inquisition but DA: Origins was a great game. Graphics don’t make the game but they weren’t that bad.

jordanlund,
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The story was also hackneyed and utterly predictable. :(

muhyb,

Dragon Age Origins was a masterpiece and epitome of BioWare.

jordanlund,
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I guess, unless you played literally any other RPG up until that time. Every single plot twist had been telegraphed and done before by better games.

muhyb,

True, but that works for books and writers too, not just for games. The story might not be one of the bests, however they managed to make a great game if you consider it in its all. I can say I definitely enjoyed DAO more than Dungeon Siege 1&2, even though I liked them a lot. And I prefer isometric to any other angle any time.

Here is an unrelated anecdote: The first Witcher game was going to be isometric initially but they decided to go with third-person view. Looking at Witcher 3, it was a good call. Though can’t help myself imagining how would it like with isometric view.

Nima,
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Origins is great agreed. and 2 and Inquisition are also great. its a decent series all around.

MurrayL, do games w Former BioWare exec producer says EA was pitched multiple times to remaster the first three Dragon Age games

I can’t imagine a way of remaking DA:O for modern audiences without losing what made it special to begin with.

caut_R,

Can you elaborate? Would jacking up the graphics, animations, and sound mess with the atmosphere? It‘s been a hot minute since I‘ve played it so I‘m not sure what the issue would be.

ms_lane,

Blood magic would be out. Which ruins the game immediately.

starchylemming,

never played the game. what is it and why would it be out?

ZeroHora,
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Is a form of magic portrait as evil and in the best cases morally grey. Is also one of the most fun builds in DAO.

The more modern Dragon Age games don’t let you create truly evil characters; you’re mostly just a douche and morally grey options are scarce. I don’t think they would remove it in a remake, but they certainly won’t let you use blood magic in a new Dragon Age.

Nima,
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why would blood magic be out?

JustARaccoon,

remaster, not remake

Nima,
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i would love to see an Origins remaster. I’m not sure what would ruin what made it special.

can you give some examples for what you mean?

griffinite_psx, do games w Former BioWare exec producer says EA was pitched multiple times to remaster the first three Dragon Age games
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It’s not even a “remaster” conversation anymore, a simple port to modern consoles to rejuvenate the game’s soul should be more than enough. Too bad we’ll probably never see that happen neither :/ .

dinckelman, do games w Former BioWare exec producer says EA was pitched multiple times to remaster the first three Dragon Age games

At this point, I doubt this will happen, because they’ve purposefully sunk Dreadwolf/Veilguard into the abyss, and probably wrote the entire DA series off, as a loss, all together

lath, (edited )

There's bad blood there, but the original DA team should be completely gone with the last members having been sacked during Veilguard debacle.

Maybe EA would like to shit on it one more time with a crappy remaster, who knows.

NuXCOM_90Percent, (edited ) do games w Former BioWare exec producer says EA was pitched multiple times to remaster the first three Dragon Age games

EA have one of the worst records for re-releases of any of the major publishers/IP Holders. Whether that is a pro or a con depends on you and I really don’t care.

That said… Look, I still think DA Origins is one of the greatest CRPGs ever made… gameplay wise (I could do without “What if Game of Thrones but even MORE rapey!!”) and wish basically anything else had continued on that mix of isometric-ish strategy and simple conditional based AI. DA2… DA2 had a REALLY good story and atrocious gameplay and level design. And I hated Inquisition so much that I never even did the DLC about the most boring fascist ever who then became a hero in the decade or so between games.

And considering all three (?) of those are different engines? It would have been a LOT of money for a re-release. And… most of these discussions would have been happening around the time Larian/Obsidian/inXile/Owlcat were fighting for kickstarter scraps against frigging Spiders.

In a post BG3 world… it would still be a stretch. But at the time when “We should re-release thse games to build hype for DAVe”? Frigging nobody would expect anything close to a CRPG to be worth that kind of investment. Hence why the DAs have been ARPGs in the vein of Divinity 2 for the past 15 or however many years since DA2.

And I say all of this as someone who loves CRPGs and who actually backed most of the Larian/Obsidian/inXile/Owlcat kickstarters.


And just as an aside because I have seen it come up a lot.

No, Wizards of the Coast were not genius visionaries for thinking BG3 could work. By all accounts, they were looking to shop around one of their old IPs (Baldurs Gate) and lucked out in that Larian got involved. And Larian largely forced what would have been the same mobile slop WotC had been funding for years into being one of the all time great CRPGs. And that is why Swen et al want absolutely nothing to do with WotC for a sequel.

Paizo (Pathfinder) have been a bit better but it is similarly telling that Pathfinder Kingmaker cannot be updated because of how shitty the publisher to that game is and that Owlcat, after Wrath of the Righteous (arguably THE greatest CRPG ever made), mostly are focusing on one off contract work with IPs that care less about the actual RPG side of things.

missingno, do gaming w Nintendo announces My Mario, a range of products for young children including amiibo building blocks | VGC
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Looks cute.

slauraure, do gaming w Nintendo survey seeks feedback on controversial game-key cards, physical and digital purchases | VGC
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Game key cards are just digital games with added plastic. Sure you can resell/lend them but that is as far as any benefit goes.

In 10 years from now if you pop one of these in your console for some nostalgia you’ll be met with shut down download servers and disappointment.

bilb,
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Competing with their own old games has probably been a nuisance for them and anything that makes playing their old games more difficult is probably welcome.

DoucheBagMcSwag, do gaming w Nintendo survey seeks feedback on controversial game-key cards, physical and digital purchases | VGC

Make a switch cartridge that is larger than what is currently being offered

J_on_LemmyML,

They offer up to 64GB which many games don’t even come close to. As far as I’m aware Nintendo offer 16,32 or 64 to publishers.

slauraure,
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I thought the problem was that they only offer 64GB for Switch 2 and it has a per unit cost of 16 USD for 3rd party publisher. This seriously eats at the margins per unit especially for cheaper titles and makes them opt for the key cards instead.

Smaller games could fit on smaller and cheaper cartridges and bigger games will fill the whole cartridge and require additional downloads to be playable.

IrritableOcelot,

My understanding is that they offer them all, but publishers havent been able to reliably get 8 or 16gb cards. Whether thats Nintendo being shady or some legitimate supply issue, I don’t know.

slauraure,
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That sounds plausible. I guess we’ll see if real physical games start popping up soon.

slauraure, do gaming w The PS4 version of Genshin Impact is being delisted and shut down | VGC
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If only my PS5 could outlive the PS4.

The PS5 GPU killed itself (just) out of warranty and Sony refused to touch it without payment.

theangriestbird,

noooo Sony what the FUCK!

You make me v glad that I have gone all-in on PC this gen.

slauraure,
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I was probably just unlucky with it. Had a drifting controller replaced also within my short time with it.

Yeah PC is much better, we bought this for Demon’s Souls and the other exclusives we figured would release. Just became my partner’s go-to Genshin machine until it started making blinking rainbow artifacts very much justifying the epilepsy warning.

sculd, do gaming w The PS4 version of Genshin Impact is being delisted and shut down | VGC

Unfortunate, but considering that the PS4 is more than a decade old, I suppose supporting that platform must be a pain for the developers.

Also my guess is that new competitor from Kuro games is beating Genshin on the graphic front and Mihoyo wants to up their game.

Megaman_EXE, do gaming w The PS4 version of Genshin Impact is being delisted and shut down | VGC

Remember when it was announced for the switch 1? Lol

theangriestbird,

What a joke ahaha

wirelesswire, do gaming w The PS4 version of Genshin Impact is being delisted and shut down | VGC

Unfortunate, but sometimes you need to cut support for 12 year old hardware in order to do more with your game. I come from MMOs, and this sort of thing would regularly happen when a new expansion would be announced. Minimum specs rise, and support for old stuff gets cut.

theangriestbird,

yeahhhh it makes sense, just kind of wild because live service games THRIVE on old hardware. Stuff like Fortnite and Overwatch has kept the PS4 platform pretty damn lively, and i’m sure it accounts for a significant chunk of sales, so seeing a live service game cut off that revenue stream is interesting. The hardware may be 12 years old, but the new hardware has sat in a pretty steep price point for its entire history so far, so somehow this still feels premature.

wirelesswire,

Yeah, I’m sure they ran the numbers and a decision like this didn’t come lightly. Also, since this is a multiplatform game, there’s a good chance the displaced ps4 users already have another device they can play the game on. Ultimately though, if the devs want to grow the game, then these decisions have to be made. Back when I played, after every major patch, you were guaranteed to see people lamenting that they could no longer play the game because their device no longer had enough storage.

While I understand it’s not a 1:1 comparison, Final Fantasy 14 dropped support for PS3 in 2017, and the console was only 11 years old at the time.

theangriestbird,

While I understand it’s not a 1:1 comparison, Final Fantasy 14 dropped support for PS3 in 2017, and the console was only 11 years old at the time.

I don’t want to say too much bc you acknowledged the apples to oranges comparison, but I’ll say the quiet part out loud for others: technology advanced way more in those 11 years than it has in the last 12 since the PS4 launch. The only conceivable limiting factor at this phase is storage speed, and as others have pointed out, Genshin on PS4 is currently MISERABLE with load times. So like, it makes sense, but still feels wrong.

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