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Meuzzin, do gaming w A message from your backlog

Damn you Humble Bundle!

therealjcdenton, do gaming w A message from your backlog
MeanEYE, do gaming w A message from your backlog
@MeanEYE@lemmy.world avatar

Hey, here’s a radical thought… don’t force yourself to finish something just because you paid for it. A lot of games accumulated were prior to generous refund policy and back in the days of Bundles and stuff. Why would you force yourself to play something you don’t like.

Patches, (edited )

Back in the days of bundles.

Looks at the 5 TRPG I just got yesterday for $15. So I could get 1 game I wanted that is always $20.

MeanEYE,
@MeanEYE@lemmy.world avatar

Exactly. People wonder why so many are praising Gaben, but decision to refund any game for any reason within 2h of play or 2 weeks of ownership is an awesome one. So many times game looks entertaining only to realize it’s bad.

Patches, (edited )

You don’t have to look very far back to see the positives

polygon.com/…/the-day-before-fntastic-twitter-ste…

Most people got refunds on the policy alone. The rest are getting them outside of policy by directly talking to Steam.

Do you think the same would happen in Epic?

MeanEYE,
@MeanEYE@lemmy.world avatar

No way. Epic doesn’t give a shit, although they do have a refund policy of sorts, it’s not as lax as Steam’s.

Maggoty, do gaming w A message from your backlog

No! you’re not my mommy!

activ8r, do gaming w A message from your backlog

No

xkforce, do gaming w I can't live like this

To the people who prefer the y axis be inverted I have one question: who hurt you?

SzethFriendOfNimi,
@SzethFriendOfNimi@lemmy.world avatar

Grew up dreaming of being a pilot. Pull back to yaw up.

First games that were flight sims did so. So now it’s just what I’m used to.

hemmes,
@hemmes@lemmy.world avatar

Yeah it was always a reference to flight controls. But in the 80s and 90s, even 1st persons would take that approach.

Omgarm,

At some point it was inverted by default.

brap,

The original Rainbow Six had it like that by default and now 25 years later it’s here to stay.

mundane,

Think of the stock on the controller as a head with your hand on top. If you pull the hand back, in what direction does the eyes move?

ivanafterall,

Or instead of complex mental gymnastics, just up = up, down = down.

TheBananaKing,

You’re moving the viewport, not the crosshair.

poweruser, (edited )

There is no up. There is left, right, forward, and back.

Pushing your head forward points it at the floor. Pulling it back makes you look up

Fal,
@Fal@yiffit.net avatar

Except you’re wrong. The controller is on the BACK of the head, you know, where you’re looking. So both x and y should be inverted. Anything else makes 0 sense

umbraroze,
@umbraroze@kbin.social avatar

Well the analogy doesn't perfectly work with pad controllers.

It does work with flight sticks. Vertical controls pitch (up and down), horizontal controls roll (tilt left and right). You've got pedals/stick twist for yaw (turn to right or left) or the hat/thumb stick for view angle change.

Fal,
@Fal@yiffit.net avatar

No I think it does work perfectly with controllers. It’s why Mario 64 had lakitu as a metaphor and had the correct, inverted x and y controls.

Maestro,
@Maestro@kbin.social avatar

Eh, that would also mean that X is inverted as well. I can't play inverted X.

echo64,

Elder millennials and cooler gen x’s grew up on Goldeneye 64, y axis inverted

magic_lobster_party,

I got familiar with it from TimeSplitters 2, but that’s basically same devs.

Edit: not sure how the control schemes of the FPS sections in Banjo Tooie were, but I could have acquainted myself with it back then. I guess it’s similar due to being a Rare game.

EmergMemeHologram,

That game is a top 10 all time fun game.

It’s awesome!

money_loo,

I’m in this comment and I don’t know if I like it.

But holy shit I guess you nailed the source of my inverted controller usage because I played the crap out of that with my little brother.

snuff,

Don’t forget pilot wings!

MajorHavoc,

It was Starfox.

cynar,

I know someone who had both X and Y inverted, on his computer mouse.

umbraroze,
@umbraroze@kbin.social avatar

Played a bunch of flight simulators and similar games back in the day. If it's universally considered the best way to steer a goddamn aircraft safely and accurately, who am I to argue.

Spaghetti_Hitchens,

First 3D (or pseudo-3d) games I played were flying games. So stick back to look up/climb became ingrained in my motor skills.

Throw in some Golden Eye and Time Splitters and there is no going back.

lobut,

I used to hate inverted as a kid, but a few games had them by default and my brain switched and could never go back. I’m playing Outer Wilds now and I had to immediately switch it.

pHr34kY,

Duke3D. That’s where it started.

Starglasses,

No one. Do you slap left-handed people? :)

Harvey656,

Wait. Are you not supposed to?

gwildors_gill_slits,

Wing Commander, Commanche, MS Flight Simulator, and various other games

Klanky, do gaming w I can't live like this
@Klanky@sopuli.xyz avatar

Wow, I always have to go in and switch it to inverted, it just makes complete sense in my head (probably from years of playing X-wing as a kid) pulling back (towards me) will always be looking up!

i2ndshenanigans,

I do the same thing everyone always tells me it’s weird to set it inverted.

Maestro,
@Maestro@kbin.social avatar

I don't understand there are still games out there that do not offer inverted Y as an option. I couldn't finish the Lego Marvel Superheroes game because of that.

hemmes,
@hemmes@lemmy.world avatar

It kills me that I simply can’t play genshin impact

Empricorn,

Oof, that would drive me crazy and be a refund request. I’ll never claim that either is superior (and I’m sure I’m in the minority for being used to inverted), but not having the option to change it is inexcusable. I don’t know the percentage, but that’s got to be a significant portion of people that are so used to it, they can’t switch!

theangryseal,

I played inverted for years. I took a long break from games, started a new one at some point and didn’t think about it. I no longer play inverted.

I didn’t even know it was possible to reprogram something so ingrained in me and I did it entirely by accident.

Klanky,
@Klanky@sopuli.xyz avatar

Wow that is pretty cool. It’s never left me, but I’ve never taken a super long break from gaming.

theangryseal, (edited )

It was a crazy feeling when I realized it. “Oh whoa, I’m playing backwards. What?” All of my life inverting the controls was the first thing I did in shooters. The break was during my divorce. That whole thing rewired my brain any way haha.

Pyro,

A similar thing happened to me too. I used to play inverted before encountering a game where you couldn’t invert the controls. Now, playing inverted feels weirder than non-inverted.

snuff,

Same, I’ve always played inverted. Pretty sure it’s from N64 flying games, pilot wings and such.

3yEh1SzB7B, do gaming w I can't live like this

Out of the loop here, can someone explain where the guy with the fantastic facial expression is from?

magic_lobster_party,

The movie is At Eternity’s Gate. Actor is Willem Dafoe, who’s portraying Vincent Van Gogh.

(I have not seen the movie, just looked it up)

https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/willem-dafoe-looking-up

FunkyMonk, do gaming w I can't live like this

only works for me now when I'm flying something that can't hover. Tried it in AC6 and felt like way less of a pilot :|

WarmSoda, do gaming w I can't live like this

You know what’s even worse?
Inverted horizontal, and you can’t change it.

Looking at you PSX and PS2 games.

Stormageddon47, do gaming w I can't live like this
@Stormageddon47@lemmy.world avatar

I only ever use inverted controls for flying. For moving a character I use normal.

painfulasterisk, do gaming w I can't live like this
OctopusKurwa, do gaming w I can't live like this

I blame Goldeneye for my invertedness. Couldn’t for the life of me figure out how to change it as a kid.

Mongostein,

The original Star Fox made me inverted for life. I don’t think you could switch it.

Inverted make sense if you think of it as controlling your neck and not your eyes.

fsxylo, do gaming w I can't live like this

Every time I throw the batarang for the first time in every arkham game I immediately hit the ground because I forget about the inverted controls.

ramble81, do gaming w I can't live like this

I always use inverted because I’m telling the camera where to go, not where I’m going to look. So if I want to look up, I need the camera below me.

Snoopey,

You pull left to look right?

SHOW_ME_YOUR_ASSHOLE,

I play inverted and I hate you for pointing this out. Now my whole gaming life is a lie.

Lmaydev,

If you’re playing first person you aren’t moving a camera. You’re moving the player’s head.

kablammy,

Which is why inverted y but not inverted x makes sense to me. I move the joystick like I would move my head.

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