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Whostosay, do games w Valve block Steam game with queer art in Russia after state censor attacks it for “promoting non-traditional sexualities”

Nontraditional sexualities huh? Pretty sure being gay happened way before Russia or any previous nation on that land

5too,

That was my first thought - aren’t homosexual relationships documented in Greek and Roman culture, among others?

That sounds very traditional to me!

Agent_Karyo, (edited ) do games w Valve block Steam game with queer art in Russia after state censor attacks it for “promoting non-traditional sexualities”
@Agent_Karyo@lemmy.world avatar

So Valve does not accept money from russian users directly (the roundabout methods are well known by russian users and Valve does nothing in this case even though it acts against similar methods when publishers make the call), so why would they even care what Roskomnadzor says? What can Roskomnadzor do to Valve?

I will note that Valve also does nothing about genocidal imperialist russian reviews on this DLC for support of Ukraine in Workers and Resources:

I’m from Donetsk. We have been bombarded since 2014 by the state in which I was born and lived. Declaring us enemies of the people. I am for the Russian SVO. Buy a dls only because of the Zaporizhia NPP, it is well made <3

You can check the number of civilians deaths in Donbas in 2014 vs 2022 to present and look at what happened to cities like Bahmut during the russian invasion. Not to mention the 1.5 million Ukrainians who had to leave just in 2014 (including my family members).

And yet we have to hear faux-libertarian polemics about alleged belief in “freedom of speech” and arrogant gibberish about “I am a free speech absolutist!” from individuals who know nothing about the value of free speech.

I said it before and I will say it again, American companies cannot be relied upon as a source of digital services. Both for systematic reasons (submission to the local oligarch/criminal regime) and philosophical reasons (a culture of ignorance and lack of desire to go beyond theatrical proclamations about freedom of this or freedom of that).

Let’s say you think I am being uncharitable in my attitude. Then tell me, why does Valve even read notices from Roskomnadzor (not to mention implementing their orders)? Russia is sanctioned and they are not supposed be able to make purchases at all. And yet Valve feels the need to follow orders from Roskomnadzor. What’s the logic here?

drmoose,

I think they think that losing steam access would just rocket piracy not only in Russia but in the entire world. Getting russian market on legal games has been a multi decade process and that would really suck for the industry.

Not saying thats right just that it be their reasoning

Agent_Karyo,
@Agent_Karyo@lemmy.world avatar

I respect your reasoning and I agree that it would massively increase piracy in russia, but remember, russia is sanctioned; Valve isn’t supposed to be selling to russians in the first place.

Disagree on impact on global piracy rates. Pirated games were widely available via public russia sources such as rutracker.org.

You don’t even need to know russian as all titles have english headings.

Here is a link to Vampire Bloodlines 2, originally release on October 21st, with consistent updates since then, last one being on November 18th:

rutracker.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6761118

You don’t need to speak russian to figure out what “magnet-ссылке” with a magnet icon refers to.

SlurpingPus,

Russia is sanctioned and they are not supposed be able to make purchases at all.

Might want to try finding sources for this, because you’ll discover this is untrue.

Agent_Karyo, (edited )
@Agent_Karyo@lemmy.world avatar

From the article:

For context, Steam currently doesn’t allow direct purchases by Russian players, in accordance with western sanctions, so Russian buyers have to make use of workarounds such as third-party key resellers.

Btw, I knew this before reading the article. Do a web search around how these workarounds operate (the example cited by RPS isn’t the only one).

SlurpingPus,

There are no ‘Western sanctions’ that prohibit from selling stuff to all Russians. Visa and MasterCard stopped doing cross-border transactions by their own decision, and most Russian banks are cut off from SWIFT. That’s all, aside from more individual and sector-specific sanctions.

Agent_Karyo,
@Agent_Karyo@lemmy.world avatar

How does that contradict what I said?

You think living in Ukraine, I would be aware of the exact scope of sanctions against russia (and the massive loopholes)?

SlurpingPus,

Are you aware of what you yourself wrote in the original comment?

Russia is sanctioned and they are not supposed be able to make purchases at all.

Explain to me why they’re supposed to not be able to make purchases.

Agent_Karyo,
@Agent_Karyo@lemmy.world avatar

When you use steam, do you mail Newell the cash?

SlurpingPus,

Do you know how law works? There’s no law against Newell accepting cash from Russia. Whereas, if the US wanted, they would easily make a law saying it’s forbidden to accept any kind of payment from Russia. Steam operates entirely within what the law says.

CosmoNova, do games w Valve block Steam game with queer art in Russia after state censor attacks it for “promoting non-traditional sexualities”

How and why do they even access Steam? The Internet and Computers aren‘t „traditional ways“ of communicating and video games are not „traditional ways“ of entertainment. Do they reject modern medicine too for being „non-traditional“? Seriously out of all the anti progress bullshit, this is the dumbest aspect.

carotte, do games w Valve block Steam game with queer art in Russia after state censor attacks it for “promoting non-traditional sexualities”

i’ll note that, as the article mentions, even apple and google haven’t removed the game in russia (at least not yet)

are valve complicit, or just cowards?

Agent_Karyo,

Honestly, that's very surprising.

Alcyonaria,

Both, they've always capitulated to states for that juicy 1% profit margin

e8d79, do games w Valve block Steam game with queer art in Russia after state censor attacks it for “promoting non-traditional sexualities”
@e8d79@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

Why are they doing business in Russia?

Truscape,

They started their business in there a while ago (I believe they were the first online distributor who managed to succeed in the Russian market, despite media fears of mass piracy), and I would imagine that revoking all of the users’ Steam Libraries wouldn’t be a popular move, or terminating all their accounts.

I’m not sure why they continued purchases after 2022 though. Maybe their Eastern Europe payment processor doesn’t ask too many questions?

Mwa, do games w Valve block Steam game with queer art in Russia after state censor attacks it for “promoting non-traditional sexualities”
@Mwa@thelemmy.club avatar

“In Russia”

Well ig government pressure

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This does sound pretty rad

mesamunefire, do games w Erosion is a voxel open world shooter in which deaths cost decades, and you can win the Wild West with armies of cats
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What an interesting premise. Its not my style, but I hope it is good.

FishFace, do games w Erosion is a voxel open world shooter in which deaths cost decades, and you can win the Wild West with armies of cats

I guess I’m skeptical. First: it seems pretty random ecks dee, so I don’t think there’ll be much emotional significance to finding your daughter when she’s old when you got there with the “Ebony Rooster that shoots bouncy eggs.” Second, it’s easy to say that every choice matters but the proof of that will be in the gameplay: will it be very limited evolution of the world or will it be a crazy simulation like Dwarf Fortress? Either has pitfalls, I suppose.

prole, do games w Erosion is a voxel open world shooter in which deaths cost decades, and you can win the Wild West with armies of cats

Like half of this article is weirdly about Pink Floyd lol

BarbecueCowboy,

Writer just woke up and was like fuck I can’t do another game article but damn I forgot how good Pink Floyd was.

tordenflesk, do games w Erosion is a voxel open world shooter in which deaths cost decades, and you can win the Wild West with armies of cats

Games are just all “zany” word-salad at this point…

taaz, do games w Erosion is a voxel open world shooter in which deaths cost decades, and you can win the Wild West with armies of cats
BallShapedMan, do games w Erosion is a voxel open world shooter in which deaths cost decades, and you can win the Wild West with armies of cats
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Immediate wishlist! Hell yeah this looks amazing.

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Gimme this and the zipline tool.

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There is at least one inner-city mailman out there who loves Death Stranding that is bouncing for fucking joy right now.

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