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GilgameshCatBeard, do games w Diablo 4's new mount costs more than the actual game

Correct me if I’m wrong, but weren’t people warned about this before the game even came out?

This should fall under the purview of “fools and their money.”

Nacktmull, do games w Diablo 4's new mount costs more than the actual game
@Nacktmull@lemmy.world avatar

Stop 👏 playing 👏 games 👏 that 👏 rip 👏 you 👏 off 👏

avater, (edited ) do games w Diablo 4's new mount costs more than the actual game
@avater@lemmy.world avatar

Game journalism these days…

Listen, I don’t play nor like Diablo 4 but is this headline not a little bit misleading since you get the mount skin as a bonus for buying 70€ worth of their stupid premium currency? So you actually pay for the currency and not the mount

Again the disclaimer that I do not play Diablo 4, nor do I defend Blizzard or microtransactions and I’m a true supporter that the coolest looking stuff should be exclusively achievable by actually playing the freaking game and not fucking pay for it!

If you excuse me now, got to continue playing Last Epoch which is even in its early access fucking amazing.

Vlyn,

The issue is that the mount is only available in this way. So if you want it you have to buy the “bundle”, making it a $65 purchase either way.

avater,
@avater@lemmy.world avatar

But are all the other shop skins available by actually playing the game? Because if not I would find the headline still to be quite misleading.

Mini_Moonpie,

If you excuse me now, got to continue playing Last Epoch which is even in its early access fucking amazing.

What’s the deal with the Epoch points? I keep wanting to check it out, but the Epoch point packs makes me think it’s going to be the same deal where you can’t earn cool looking stuff in game and have to buy it.

caut_R, (edited ) do games w Diablo 4's new mount costs more than the actual game

This year‘s CK3 DLC package is also very close in price to the „base game.“ Naturally, it provides nowhere near as much content and I refuse to believe it requires nearly as much work to make either.

RunawayFixer,

Paradox DLC policy is why I don’t play Paradox games anymore.

If I were to only play 1 game ever, then the DLC system might be ok, it’s basically a subscription system. But since I’d only play a campaign every other year or so, I’m not going to fork out that much money for 1 campaign. And it’s way too annoying to play some game with obvious parts missing + in game ads, so now Paradox gets no more money from me.

Fenrisulfir,

Can you expand on this in-game ad thing? I love paradox but it’s been loooong time since I played one of theirs.

RunawayFixer,

Here’s an complaint thread (not mine) with a screenshot: old.reddit.com/…/paradox_this_is_unacceptable_in_…

I personally get more annoyed by in game presentation of features and then getting hit with a “you need to pay extra to use this”, that’s basically an ad as well and it’s constantly there in the main gameplay loop. Bye bye immersion. It’s an annoyance every time that you are confronted with it, which in most paradox games is basically all the time. It’s like buying a car and then having to pay extra to unlock the seat heating that is already installed.

I could probably work around it by not auto updating paradox games and installing mods to remove some of the ads, but for 1 campaign every 2 years that’s just not worth the hassle for me. So I simply don’t play paradox games anymore.

SpiderShoeCult,

Yeah I loved EUIV early on, but have left it alone for a while. Now, whenever I get the urge to play again (and I do), I have a look at everything that popped up in the meantime and it’s just overwhelming. Sure, I could play the snapshot I have but then the game keeps getting patched so you get stunted new mechanics that need the DLCs to function properly. I could revert to a previous patch, but what was the patch in march 2021? Do I still find it in the steam options?

And if you want to bite the bullet and just buy the whole DLC collection it’s around 100 euro for a couple of years. or something like 300 for the whole package? I do appreciate the quality that paradox churns out though.

This is why I’ve been holding off on getting victoria 3.

Draedron,

I feel Paradox DLCs are the better way of DLCs. They add good content but you absolutely can enjoy the game without them

Mang,

I buy base Paradox games just so i can mod the cracked version with all dlc through steam.

caut_R,

Care to elaborate?

Mang,

English is not my first language. So basically how it works is you buy the base game and then you can download mods on workshop. Then you download the cracked version (preferably with the latest patch.) Then you launch the game through steam and select the modlist you wanna play, then you launch the cracked version and it will have that same modlist. I tried it with CK3, HOI4 and Stellaris but i bet it’s the same with all of their games. Only thing that sucks is you can’t easily download the latest patch for cracked version, but you can stop steam updates while you finish one playthrough or something. Hope this helps if you need better explanation dm me

formergijoe, do games w Diablo 4's new mount costs more than the actual game

Meanwhile, Helldivers 2’s armor is like 2 bucks, and you can find the currency in-game.

DuckPuppet,

For Democracy!

Mr_Dr_Oink,

Its nice to see a low cost microtransaction, and nice to see that you can get the currency in game but really thats just the same as it was a few years back before it went full 100 dollar for a reskin mode.

You are defending a game by pointing out that its money grabbing methods are less greedy than another company.

Games wont make the billions and billions they make now if they move away from the in game purchases models but they also evidently dont need billions and billions to operate.

Some of the best games on the market were made on small budgets by indie developers and sell well because the are fun and people actually want to play them.

yamanii,
@yamanii@lemmy.world avatar

I would argue that on online game kinda needs a stream of revenue that’s doesn’t only come from the first purchase, since that will stagnate.

Alenalda,

Maybe we don’t make every game a live service. Remember halo 2, game was fantastic and no micro transactions in sight if you don’t count xbl.

ryven, do games w Diablo 4's new mount costs more than the actual game
@ryven@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

And it looks like the result of a transporter malfunction involving Baron Rivendare’s Deathcharger and Butt Stallion.

ArmoredThirteen,

Holy information density batman! That’s a fucking mess to look at there’s so much going on it stopped being cool looking

FlyingSquid,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Hahahaha! I hadn’t seen it before! And people are expected to (and some do) spend money on that?

FlyingSquid, do games w Diablo 4's new mount costs more than the actual game
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

This sort of thing is exactly why I mostly just play retro games.

Kbin_space_program, do games w Diablo 4's new mount costs more than the actual game

Question from someone who plays warframe.

They do their prime bundles for a decent chunk of money. But it's also a really good deal just for the paid currency.
And you can get the same things in game for free.
So how much is the actual item vs the currency?

Bbbbbbbbbbb,

Whatever the in game markets sells it for

Butterpaderp, (edited )

Reading the article, yeah it’s basically a “hey, buy 65$ worth of our virtual money and we’ll throw in this horse armor!” bundle.

There isn’t a way to get it ingame though. I think the only way to actually earn platinum is if you buy and complete the battlepasses.

yamanii,
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There is no ingame market, and Warframe is a free game so it gets more of a pass compared to a paid game charging MORE than a f2p one.

Kalkaline, do games w Diablo 4's new mount costs more than the actual game
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I need to make a game for rich suckers.

superduperenigma,

Step 1: make some genuinely top shelf, genre-defining games in the 90s and early 2000s

Step 2: Sell out

Step 3: Become shittier than anyone could ever imagine

Step 4: Charge 1 kidney for a shitty in app purchase

WarmSoda,

What, dont you all have kidneys?

EldritchFeminity,

Step 3.5: Use psychology to “convince” children and those with certain mental health issues that they need the in app purchase.

Exusia,
@Exusia@lemmy.world avatar

While simultaneously convincing parents not to vote for regulation because “its optional”

umbrella, do games w Diablo 4's new mount costs more than the actual game
@umbrella@lemmy.ml avatar

i got plenty of hate when i said years ago this is where the mtx slippery slope would get us

mindbleach, do gaming w Deus Ex star says that Eidos asked him not to talk about Adam Jensen in public any more

Pay him or get bent.

Potatos_are_not_friends, do gaming w Deus Ex star says that Eidos asked him not to talk about Adam Jensen in public any more

Makes sense. No need to burn bridges or salt the wound.

Maybe Eidos would love to get another Deus ex out there but there’s no publisher interest. Passionate game developers still need financial backing to pay rent and put food on the table.

And honestly silence is the best policy here. They probably want to stop him from fucking up before he ends up like voice actor who played Niko Bellick and say something that pisses off their parent publishers.

slaacaa,

Yeah, the way he talks about it does not help the chances of a new game with. I can understand the frustration of an artist that is popular worldwide, while sometimes living paycheck to paycheck doing small roles. Still, maybe he should discuss with his agent how to share his views with the press in a more positive way, to avoid biting the hand that might feed him again in the future.

ugo,

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  • Molecular0079,

    Exactly. If companies didn’t want their workers and their customers to say stuff and make conjectures on their behalf, then they should communicate about it.

    Katana314, do gaming w Deus Ex star says that Eidos asked him not to talk about Adam Jensen in public any more

    Given some of the fair-use-adjacent fan work the Team Fortress voice actors have done, I sometimes wish there were more fictional characters out there that actors had the rights to represent as outside of media.

    I recall interviews where the guy who does Dr Eggman just politely refused simple fun requests because they wouldn’t be approved by Sega, which is too bad.

    Cort,

    The only example I can think of where that has happened would be Ryan Reynolds & Deadpool. Iirc he kinda just stole the costume after the 1st movie wrapped filming

    Rom, do gaming w Deus Ex star says that Eidos asked him not to talk about Adam Jensen in public any more
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    What a rotten way to die.

    BumbleBeeButt,

    “If you want to make enemies, try to change something.” - Adam Jensen

    ArmokGoB,

    He was a good man.

    PowerCrazy, do gaming w Deus Ex star says that Eidos asked him not to talk about Adam Jensen in public any more

    What a shame. Maybe he should try getting a job?

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