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newthrowaway20, do games w Blizzard is delisting the OG Warcrafts from GOG, but GOG says it's gonna preserve them forever anyway, hands out a discount, and announces new policy for its preservation program to boot

Wasn’t Microsoft just talking about how important game preservation was to them?

justOnePersistentKbinPlease,

Its important for them to preserve any chance of profit that may be squeezed from old games.

TheLowestStone,
@TheLowestStone@lemmy.world avatar

Ah yes, the Nintendo method of preservation.

GhiLA,
@GhiLA@sh.itjust.works avatar

I have a script endlessly deleting and downloading BOTW on repeat so Nintendo experiences thousands of lost sales every few days.

Lost_My_Mind,

I mean…those aren’t lost sales exactly…but I’m sure Nintendo still doesn’t like it.

JustEnoughDucks,
@JustEnoughDucks@feddit.nl avatar

Joke

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(Context: Most companies including Nintendo claim that any act of piracy is a lost sale, which is completely a lie)

msage,

Dude, download it from yourself, you will make it to tens of thousands!

Bakkoda,

“No, not like that!”

Someonelol,
@Someonelol@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

There’s a very crucial fact you’re forgetting about corporations who say they care about anything. They’re liars and only care about money.

CosmoNova,

I guess that must be why I can’t buy the Black & White games or Fable 2. Because Microsoft cares so much about preserving the awkward legal Loop some of their Lionhead Games are in.

PumpkinSkink,

It could be them getting ready to push a wc1 and 2 remake. Hopefully more of a D2 than a WC3…

ampersandrew, do games w Critical Role's plans to make a videogame have become an 'active pursuit', says CEO Travis Willingham, after almost 10 years of growing a D&D campaign into a full-on franchise
@ampersandrew@lemmy.world avatar

Critical Role could always licence another official D&D game with Hasbro…but my Insight check’s telling me that they might try and spin up something out of Daggerheart.

Eh, I hope not. I’m not really liking what I see in Daggerheart’s hope/fear system and how it interferes with initiative, especially. Plus it reminds me of that subplot from Donnie Darko.

It’s already a game that uses cards, after all, and I can very easily see its systems making for a solid turn-based tactics game. Or maybe they’re not gonna start small, and just barrel full steam ahead into an ambitious CRPG

I’ll bet you can make a small CRPG for the cost of what their merch store brings in in a year, akin to the Kickstarter era from a decade ago, and that’s if they want to be cautious with their spending. Given the layoffs of the past two years, they’ve likely had their pick of any talent they wanted to hire to realize whatever it is they’re building.

jonathan,

Larian told Hasbro to fuck off for a BG3 DLC and/or sequel, so there’s definitely an opening for someone to pick up that torch. That said, I also think they’ll go with their own system and brand.

ampersandrew,
@ampersandrew@lemmy.world avatar

Larian told Hasbro to fuck off for a BG3 DLC and/or sequel

That’s definitely not how I’ve ever seen it framed.

I think Critical Role has an incentive to use their own system, but it’s not one that I’m excited about.

Maalus,

That’s exactly how they framed it. They cited reasons as worker burnout and Hasbro / the game system. They wanted to be done with BG3. Studios don’t really announce that the second they finish the game.

ampersandrew,
@ampersandrew@lemmy.world avatar

It wasn’t the second they finished the game. It was after working on DLC for months, which was after a 6 year development cycle. That’s not the same as telling Hasbro to fuck off. That’s having the luxury of a war chest that means they can afford to do the less lucrative thing and make whatever is going to keep their talent happiest.

iAmTheTot,

I liked what I played of Daggerheart, and its hope/fear. I just don’t think it would translate well into s video game. They’re very different mediums and I don’t think it’s crunchy enough to play well as a video game.

Ironically, I think a Critical Role game doesn’t need to really be based on any ttrpg. Could just be an action rpg.

Blaiz0r,

I’m holding out for a Mörk Borg game

Voroxpete, do games w Critical Role's plans to make a videogame have become an 'active pursuit', says CEO Travis Willingham, after almost 10 years of growing a D&D campaign into a full-on franchise

It feels like this has disaster written all over it.

Sorry if I’m harshing anyone’s vibe, but I can’t escape the feeling that a group of people whose main involvement in the games industry is as voice talent are basically saying “How hard could it be?” and not understanding that the answer is “Very.”

Ideally they would team up with an experienced studio to build something off of their creative ideas. But if they try to do this whole thing themselves, it has the makings of a Wha Happen? episode all over it.

Maybe it’ll work. They pulled off Vox Machina, so who knows. I’d certainly like to be wrong. But I can’t help but feel like we’ll all be talking about the fallout from this in five years, when eager backers are still waiting for the game they were promised.

ampersandrew,
@ampersandrew@lemmy.world avatar

What backers? Did they say it was kickstarted anywhere? I think they’ve got their own funding sources at this point.

Voroxpete,

Hey, if they’re actually securing funding for this instead of pushing the cost off onto eager fans, good for them. At least they’re doing one thing right. Unfortunately that only increases the potential for this to turn into a trash fire that sinks their whole company.

Hopefully it doesn’t come to that.

ampersandrew,
@ampersandrew@lemmy.world avatar

The potential for this project to sink their whole company would come from them being extremely reckless with the ample cash flow they’ve got right now, which this interview says they’re not, and hopefully they mean it. I don’t get the sense they’re trying to build an Immortals of Aveum or a Callisto Protocol.

Manifish_Destiny,

Marisha generally knows how to run a business, unless they reach far beyond their grasp, they’ll be fine.

KingThrillgore, do games w Critical Role's plans to make a videogame have become an 'active pursuit', says CEO Travis Willingham, after almost 10 years of growing a D&D campaign into a full-on franchise
@KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml avatar

I’m worried they aren’t skilled enough to do it, they just want that sweet BG3 money.

Maalus,

They literally have been connected to video games development their entire career. They are voice actors. They do that shit all the time.

subignition, (edited ) do games w Critical Role's plans to make a videogame have become an 'active pursuit', says CEO Travis Willingham, after almost 10 years of growing a D&D campaign into a full-on franchise
@subignition@fedia.io avatar

After Larian is done with The Witcher 4 whatever their next project(s) are, they should pair up. Infinite money glitch

edit: dumb

ampersandrew,
@ampersandrew@lemmy.world avatar

Did you mean CD Projekt Red?

subignition,
@subignition@fedia.io avatar

Got a little mixed up there, I recalled hearing that Larian already had plans for their next game after BG3 but my brain incorrectly autofilled Witcher as what that game was - that's not even the right developer. Silly brain.

kyle, do games w Critical Role's plans to make a videogame have become an 'active pursuit', says CEO Travis Willingham, after almost 10 years of growing a D&D campaign into a full-on franchise

I’m interested but not especially optimistic. Depends on who is actually making the game, I believe they know tabletop games well, but that doesn’t necessarily translate to a CRPG.

Random aside, the article says Marisha Ray voiced Jaina Proudmoore, but it was really Laura Bailey.

ampersandrew, do games w Blizzard is delisting the OG Warcrafts from GOG, but GOG says it's gonna preserve them forever anyway, hands out a discount, and announces new policy for its preservation program to boot
@ampersandrew@lemmy.world avatar

What a bunch of scumbags.

inclementimmigrant,

Yeah, the Blizzard a lot of us grew up with is truly dead and gone.

massive_bereavement,

zug zug

Ioughttamow,

Me not that kind of orc

thebigslime,

Something need doing?

Anticorp,

Awe, more work?

Lost_My_Mind,

I can see my house!

Klear,

I wish I had a weapon!

Mereo,

People do not understand that company name means nothing. The OG people who were the heart and soul of Blizzard are long gone. Blizzard is just a name now.

echodot,

Absolutely but companies can retain the culture they were originally set up under if they actively work to do that.

mnemonicmonkeys,

Which Blizzard hasn’t done

intensely_human,

Orcs and Humans were put into direct conflict by the opening of a portal by evil wizards. To fight for their homeland doesn’t make them scumbags, just brave fighters doing their best to follow orders, stand in the right places at the right times, and chop down whatever stands between them and safety.

Thcdenton, do games w Blizzard is delisting the OG Warcrafts from GOG, but GOG says it's gonna preserve them forever anyway, hands out a discount, and announces new policy for its preservation program to boot
@Thcdenton@lemmy.world avatar

Always pirate blizzard

RootBeerGuy, do games w Blizzard is delisting the OG Warcrafts from GOG, but GOG says it's gonna preserve them forever anyway, hands out a discount, and announces new policy for its preservation program to boot
@RootBeerGuy@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

I will not pay 15-ish bucks for decade old games that I already purchased long time ago at release. Also not with another buck discount off. Definitely not since they are Blizzard games and these days that studio is not worth supporting anymore.

Good initiative from GOG, but this feels like wasted money to me. Warcraft 1 is definitely a hard sell because of how terrible playing it will feel. Or did they change that in the Remaster? You used to be able to only control one unit at a time. In Warcraft 2 they upped it to 9 units? Or am I off and it was 9 units in 1 and already more in 2?

ampersandrew,
@ampersandrew@lemmy.world avatar

If you already purchased it a long time ago, and you can still get that copy working, then cool. But having a DRM-free copy designed to work with modern systems is very appealing. Buying DRM-free shows them where customers want to purchase their games. There are plenty of decades-old games worth more than $7.50 each.

ceenote,

Never played the OG, but I’ve played the remaster and you can definitely select more than 1 unit.

quirzle,

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  • gogoverdrive,

    It was 4 in warcraft 1, 9 in 2, increased to 9 in the remaster.

    SnotFlickerman,
    @SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

    The good thing is that thanks to how GOG works, as long as some pirate purchases a copy, they will always be able to keep a current update available to the pirate community.

    Thanks GOG, for being against DRM in games.

    RampantParanoia2365,

    So it’s wasted money because you personally already own these games.

    RootBeerGuy,
    @RootBeerGuy@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

    Yeah, I said I will not. I didn’t say no one should. I think it is great that GOG preserves them but the price is still to high for something from a scumbag company.

    How does it work with the money GOG is charging, does Blizzard see anything of that? If not, then nice, makes it more worth to me to pay so GOG gets more funding.

    If Blizzard does get a cut then GOG should give a rather hefty discount as a final “fuck you” to Blizzard. Because that’s all they deserve.

    thermal_shock,

    you could group multiple in W1. you could only build buildings adjacent to your road though, I remember making a road right to the enemy and putting the barracks in their camp lol

    icecreamtaco,
    @icecreamtaco@lemmy.world avatar

    I don’t think you understand the point of preservation. This is for future generations, and you as well if you ever lose the original CD installers

    IsThisAnAI,

    This entire preservation program is just going to end up costing them millions for dozens of people that care.

    icecreamtaco,
    @icecreamtaco@lemmy.world avatar

    If it was only dozens gog would have been shut down ten years ago

    umbraroze, do games w Blizzard is delisting the OG Warcrafts from GOG, but GOG says it's gonna preserve them forever anyway, hands out a discount, and announces new policy for its preservation program to boot

    I have them on CD-ROM.

    I also think I have the final patches for them on floppies that I stuffed in the boxes. Not sure if they’re readable (or in fact the final patches)

    inclementimmigrant,

    Thankfully it seems that PC gaming wiki still has working links to the patches.

    ramble81, do gaming w Elon Musk says too many game studios are owned by giant corporations so his giant corporation is going to start a studio to 'make games great again'

    Just when I thought he couldn’t get any edgier with a black MAGA hat, I noticed the font he used….

    b161,

    The “yes I’m 110% a Nazi in case every other time I told you I’m a Nazi didn’t come through” font.

    Ledivin, do gaming w Elon Musk says too many game studios are owned by giant corporations so his giant corporation is going to start a studio to 'make games great again'

    Elon’s companies have been successful despite his input, not because of it. If you’re interested, do some reading on how middle-management protected their teams from his nonsense in both Tesla and SpaceX, basically just feeding him bullshit that sounded good and ignoring him whenever possible. Those people are why the companies have thrived.

    Shit, just look at Twitter before and after. The valuation difference is staggering.

    mesamunefire,

    twitter is probably the best thing to happen for spacex, testla and other companies lol. He just spends all his time shitposting.

    Grimy,

    Not to mention all the preference he will show his own companies because of the appointment buying Twitter got him.

    givesomefucks,

    It’s risk assessment.

    If you have a startup and someone offers you 9 figures so they’re the CEO and you still run the day to day…

    You’d be an idiot to risk it, because any number of billion dollar companies can fuck you over thru innumerable ways.

    So every once and a while someone with shit tier risk assessment lucks out and suddenly becomes unimaginable rich. And those are the people making offers on the next generation of startups.

    The system is set up so the worst people possible run shit. Because no sane person would keep “letting it ride” to the point they make billions, and a crazy person who does becomes too big to fail. And once they get to that point, they’ve convinced themselves no one else is smart enough to play Russian roulette 100 times in a row.

    At that point they’ve conned themselves into really believing they’re geniuses who know more than anyone.

    Bieren,

    I tell people this all the time. There are people who have the job of distracting musk like a 3 year old. They don’t believe it and continue to worship him. They act like he personally invented everything and refuse to accept the truth. The only thing he actually invented was the cybertruck.

    Soup,

    Did he actually invent the Cybertruck? He drew the world’s shittiest picture that was all straight lines and then made a bunch of toddler-level claims about its abilities while demanding results from the teams of real people that actually had to make his nonsense even somewhat functional.

    People who deserve the title of inventor actually do the fucking work. He just said “and it’ll be invincible and climb over mountains and can pull GOD and be SO COOL”

    Snowclone,

    I read this whole article by some truck review guy? And he was confused because he said the cyber truck came within a hair of filling a niche in the truck world that was pretty much free to take, but just narrowly ended up being in a much better established range of trucks that it had no hope in competing in. So yeah… he did all the demanding and none of the thinking, and everyone else was just there for the paycheck.

    Soup,

    The niche was what the Rivian and fuck, even the F150 Lightning are doing. The Cybertruck looks like ass and I could almost say the appearance is “kinda neat for trying something different” if it wasn’t such a dogshit product in every single way.

    Ledivin,

    I can’t help but laugh every time I see one, and in the occasional instance that the owners actually pay attention to the world around them and notice, they always glare at me 😂 they know exactly how fucking stupid they look, they just try to pretend nobody agrees

    Snowclone,

    Yeah that sounds about right. From a pure business standpoint it’s an error in every way.

    pennomi,

    Shotwell is an amazing person for operating SpaceX to such success, despite all of Elon’s efforts to the contrary, like trying to cancel Falcon Heavy.

    Strider,

    I had a boss like that once. Yes, it can be done.

    But the bottom line is they still think they’re great and everything will go on.

    That is very harmful to society.

    GhiLA, (edited ) do gaming w Elon Musk says too many game studios are owned by giant corporations so his giant corporation is going to start a studio to 'make games great again'
    @GhiLA@sh.itjust.works avatar

    Ah yes, gaming. That one industry you can’t really fake past a certain point or everyone will boycott, call it boring or go on strike?

    Perfect. Good decisions. Waste as much money as possible. I hope Ubisoft is in on it. Take as many shit-for-brains publishers and devs as you can gather. They forget half of the industry is wearing knee-high socks and cat ears. Propaganda games will go over like trying to sell kale to a shark.

    Furbag, do gaming w Elon Musk says too many game studios are owned by giant corporations so his giant corporation is going to start a studio to 'make games great again'

    AI slop coming to ruin your favorite IPs in the very near future.

    AceFuzzLord, do gaming w Elon Musk says too many game studios are owned by giant corporations so his giant corporation is going to start a studio to 'make games great again'

    Cannot wait for him to start putting out soon to be classic titles like “Ethnic Cleansing”, “Concentration Camp Simulator”, and “Deportation Station” to counter the woke libtards.

    /S

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