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11111one11111, do games w Nintendo Updates Its User Agreement To Crack Down On Emulation

How is retropie still able to operate? Seems like 9 out of 10 people who buy a raspberry pi are using it with retropie to play retro games. Seems like something that holds that much of the emulator industry share would be targeted by Nintendo.

Subsequently, if I know someone who knows someone who has a retropie for gaming, what’s the worst case scenario that could come from Nintendo shutting down retropie’s ability to provide the means to emulate? Will it be fine as long as the OS isn’t updated any further? Just run the emulators and roms already installed on it as long as no new emulators or roms are added after the possible crack down?

missingno,
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Nintendo can't control anyone else's hardware, they can't stop you from doing what you want on a Raspberry Pi. They're trying to crack down on Switch modding, but even that's just a cat-and-mouse game.

You will not get in trouble for emulating at home. Emulation itself is legal, it's only illegal to download games you don't own. But it's nearly impossible for anyone to get caught doing that, and very obviously not worth any lawyer's time to pursue individual end users for pennies in damages. You are safe.

What Nintendo wants to do is attack piracy at the source. They can go after sites that distribute ROMs, but those are like a hydra, kill one and three more take its place. Then there's the likes of Yuzu and Ryujinx, where Nintendo claims to have found some technicality about these emulators having something they shouldn't. But the forks are still being distributed, and you the end user will not get in trouble for downloading the fork at home.

Note that for the most part, they're really only concerned with protecting their current hardware. They've never gone after Dolphin, Snes9x, mGBA, etc, because they know those are battles they can't win. Considering how aggressive Nintendo is on the battles they do fight, it's clear that anything Nintendo doesn't go after is something they can't go after.

fluffykittycat,

I mean it’s still important to walk an emulators for current Hardware while we still have modern working examples and can capture Network packets and whatnot but I’m not totally against the idea of Simply holding your insights from public consumption for a while out of practicality alone

missingno,
@missingno@fedia.io avatar

I agree, it's important to preserve things today because it may be too late tomorrow. Some Switch titles have already been delisted, so it's good that we backed them up early.

But I'm just explaining it from Nintendo's perspective. If the tools we use to restore Super Mario Bros. 35 can also be used to crack Tears of the Kingdom, they don't want those tools in our hands.

The more important point though is that it is all cat-and-mouse, and the mouse is winning. We have those tools, and they can't fully stop it.

WatDabney,

I'd never thought of it in these specific terms before, but the essentially educational and fear-ameliorating nature of your post led me to realize that it's likely that a lot of what Nintendo's doing with all of this legal barnstorming is essentially PR, and that's all it's meant to be.

They have little hope of actually winning cases or of doing anything more than cutting off one head of the hydra if they do, and all of their safeguards can be and will be worked around, repeatedly if necessary, so from a practical standpoint, they're fighting a losing battle. But all of their noise and aggressive posturing likely serves to scare a lot of less-informed gamers into not emulating in the first place, so it furthers their goals anyway.

11111one11111,

Fuck me 10/10 response. Thank you that answered so many of my questions.

Maybe it’s just a coincidence that because I switched to Lemmy almost 2 years ago I started seeing more IT related news and thats why im seeing so many more articles about Nintendo shutting down as much pirated material as they can. Or is it that they only recently started this crusade? If so, do you have any more information as to why they started making this a priority in the past couple years?

a_wild_mimic_appears,

Nintendo has been at it for the last 30 years, here are landmark lawsuites lists, from my memory everything relevant has been listed.

…gametechwiki.com/…/Legal_status_and_history_of_e…

And there are a few points why they are so active, first and foremost the IP law in Japan, which says (paraphrased) that IP that is not defended is fair game for everyone; then there is the technological fact that emulation of their systems is pretty easy performancewise nowadays in comparison to the naughts; and then there is the thing that if the few titles that are exclusives to nintendos system can easily played on other platforms (where they don’t see a dime), they will not be able to sell their hardware and therefore no games that are available on other platforms. Also, they have always stepped up their game when a new hardware generation comes out - can’t have people emulating the old platform when there’s new stuff to buy, ya see?

I await the day when someone at nintendo starts using his calculator and recognizes that selling their back catalogue games at 7,99 per game on pc and 10 bucks on all the other platforms would ensure a steady flow of income for much needed innovation; the switch is nice, but i can’t see where the switch 2 is a product that shows enough difference to the switch1 for massive sales.

Mwa,

thanks for clearing stuff up

ColeSloth,

You can say 9 out of 10 buying a raspberry pie are setring up retro pie for emulating, but 98 out of 100 people emulating aren’t using a raspberry pie to do it.

11111one11111,

I mean the statement was heavily implied to be anecdotal to my experience but I’ll add to it by also saying I haven’t met a single person who runs an emulator console using anything but raspberry pi hardware.

What are the 98 out 100 people that you know using? Mini desktops?

ColeSloth,

You’re just speaking of dedicated emulator systems? I’d agree with those numbers of yours then. I was just speaking of what people use to emulate old games in general. Almost everyone just uses a pc, laptop, or cell phone. The numbers for dedicated systems that look like retro Gameboys and stuff like that are outnumbered by like 100 to 1.

Donebrach, do gaming w Nintendo files lawsuit against Palworld
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Maybe if the pokémon company had done anything to advance their gameplay in the past 30 years people wouldn’t be so excited to try a better pokémon game. They should probably sue the developers of Ni No Kuni for also making a better pokémon game.

TwilightVulpine, do gaming w Switch Online Is Expanding The N64 Library With Rare's Jet Force Gemini

I wonder if part of the reason they add these games by eyedropper is to use them as hype tools.

The Switch 2 might be announced any day now, what is going to happen to NSO? Will they actually port them because it's tied to a subscription rather than a standalone purchase? Or will they start over again?

Mummelpuffin,
@Mummelpuffin@beehaw.org avatar

Oh that’s absolutely why. If they dumped everything at once people would play what they wanted to play and drop the subscription. By doing this people come back.

If Nintendo doesn’t keep NSO as-is for their “Switch 2” people will be EXTREMELY pissed, but it’s Nintendo, they’re fine with that.

twistedtxb, (edited ) do games w Hands On: Metal Gear Solid Master Collection Vol. 1 Could Be So Much More, But Isn't
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Heads up for Xbox owners: MGS HD Collection XB360 (physical release) is backwards compatible for newer consoles, has the same features and 4K/60

You can get it on eBay/marketplace for $20

fox2263,

Oh really! Will have to give that a try. That’s the Xbox back compatibility team for you, going the extra mile

Zozano, do games w Hands On: Metal Gear Solid Master Collection Vol. 1 Could Be So Much More, But Isn't
@Zozano@aussie.zone avatar

Fucking Konami. Do not buy this shit. Let Konami rot in the grave they dug themselves into.

Guidy, do games w Nintendo Updates Its User Agreement To Crack Down On Emulation

At this point if you’re buying their stuff, you’re the reason they get away with it and you’re the problem because you can’t control them, you can only control you… and you didn’t.

Wahots, do gaming w It's Official, Switch 2 Joy-Con Will Not Feature Hall Effect Sticks
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All my joycons have drift, and I have several sets. I’m not touching a switch 2 because of that, and the insane cost of games. Nintendo needs to make better hardware.

IndustryStandard,

Nintendo has free repair on joycon stick drift be sure to use it. You will lose your joycons for a few weeks so do not send them all at once.

acastcandream, do gaming w TimeSplitters Dev Free Radical Has Shut Down As Staff Share "Last Day" Messages

Damn fntastic and FR both dead today

DebatableRaccoon,

One will be missed

DmMacniel, do gaming w F-Zero 99 Update (Version 1.1.0) Adding New "Classic Race" Mode This Week

Can we get an actual F-Zero? Pretty please.

Ganondorf, do gaming w Sakurai Is Sceptical That Future Smash Bros. Titles Can Match Ultimate's Scope
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I've said this on smash forums before and had the toxic side of the fanbase lose their shit over it, but the next Smash Bros iteration should be a complete reset on the roster and that roster's movesets. e.g. Samus Aran should be reworked to incorporate skills from Samus Returns, Fusion, the Prime series and Dread. Right now her moveset is stuck on her Super Metroid form. Link should be reworked to be more based on BotW/TotK. Mario should be reworked to incorporate Odyssey, Galaxy and Wonder.

I LOVE the Smash franchise and have devoted thousands of hours of my life to the series - but that doesn't change many characters growing stale and being trapped in their pasts. Right now Smash celebrates gaming legacies, but it should be changed to celebrate more than just the distant legacies. The last 10 years of most characters are completely ignored by the current roster. It should celebrate those characters' futures too.

Grass,

Peach is getting a new game that would justify an entirely new moveset too.

ampersandrew,
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It would also be nice if celebrated a larger percentage of the non-Japanese side of things, if they go back to guest characters. Other than better netcode, the way you make a smaller roster make sense is if you flip the game on its head with a new set of universal mechanics, like how Street Fighter 5 to Street Fighter 6 is acceptable because everything is about the Drive system.

AlmightySnoo, (edited ) do games w Ayaneo's New Handheld Looks Like A 2023 Nintendo DS Successor

Ayaneo Flip DS

It’s not even hiding it.

More seriously though, I always loved the form factor of the Nintendo DS (I’m still rocking a 3DS) and the dual-screen setup allowed for amazing and unique gameplays that you don’t find anymore in today’s games where the focus is more and more on 3D graphics. Try to watch a Kirby Canvas Curse playthrough and you’ll get what I mean: www.youtube.com/watch?v=006aQg2JIvI , it was also good as a Kanji learning tool for Japanese learners (see for example: 2think.org/japan-ds.shtml).

hdgdlfiuebdtus, do gaming w Super Mario Bros. Wonder Nintendo Direct Announced For August 31st

I am so hyped for this game!

pretzelise,
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I haven’t been excited for a 2D Mario game in so long. So happy this game has broken my streak!

It just looks so WEIRD I love it

QuentinCallaghan,
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I’m not as hyped as with Super Mario Odyssey.

unwarlikeExtortion, do gaming w It's Official, Switch 2 Joy-Con Will Not Feature Hall Effect Sticks

outright confirmed the exclusion […] Notably, he didn’t specify whether or not

Yeah, that’s what “outright” means all right.

Spider89,
Odo,

He confirmed the joycons are not hall effect, but didn’t specify whether the pro controller is.

x00za, do gaming w Nintendo files lawsuit against Palworld

Me looking at the thumbnail of this post: “ah electabuzz or something right?” People in this thread: “it’s totally different!!!”

lorty,
@lorty@lemmygrad.ml avatar

I loved gunning down the rival with my electabuzz

TheMightyCanuck,
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Not even what the lawsuit is about… It’s the creature capture mechanisms that they feel infringed on.

Ganondorf, do gaming w Sonic Superstars' Sales Were 'Slightly Weaker' Than Sega Had Anticipated
@Ganondorf@kbin.social avatar

Kind of seems silly to buy any game developed by Sonic Team these days. They are either half-baked ideas (Sonic with a sword? Sonic as a werewolf?) or glitchy messes with repetitive, cheap gameplay (Frontiers, Lost World). They seem to rarely learn from previous mistakes or grow as a development team, similar to Gamefreak. Both studios are sustained by name recognition.

TwilightVulpine,

As much as I'm very critical of both these studios, that's really downplaying Sonic Frontiers. It was puzzling that they decided to go for a realistic style while having floating platforms everywhere, but that was a competent game that a lot of people enjoyed. I wouldn't even call it glitchy, playing it lately I didn't see a single one. Maybe it had some glitches on release, but unfortunately this is commonplace these days.

Ganondorf,
@Ganondorf@kbin.social avatar

Maybe it had some glitches on release

I haven't heard much about it as of late and won't comment on its current state, but when it first came out it was a glitchy mess. Several reviewers mentioned how glitchy it was and docked it points. dunkey made a whole video showcasing glitches and odd design choices. It's a step in the right direction, so they deserve credit, but that doesn't change its shortcomings at launch.

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