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Tarquinn2049, do games w Sid Meier's Pirates, and everyone else in the game, are aware of the date...

That’s awesome. Buncha nerds, hehe. I miss when games were made by a handful of friends, sure sometimes it meant they leaned a little too heavily on a mechanic that only played well in their opinion and stuff like that, the upsides were worth it though.

massive_bereavement, (edited )

Crunch made sense then when all employees more or less owned the company.

I also like the fact that Sid Meier was never on board with having his name sticked on every product but the publishers pushed him to do so because of people like Peter Molyneux.

mox,

To be clear, I think the original Pirates! actually was Sid Meier’s work. I’m not sure about this remake.

massive_bereavement,

Yep, I also think so. My comment was mostly on an old interview he explained about dropping out the Sid Meyer's part on new titles.

ReeferPirate, (edited )

I read somewhere it was actually Robin Williams that convinced him it was a good idea. There a ton of c64 shovelware and brand recognition is a powerful tool if you can build something worthwhile

WarlordSdocy,

You can still get that by just playing very small indie games. There’s tons of small games out there being made by just a handful or even one person that have these kinds of little fun things scattered throughout them. They are harder to find by their nature but that culture is still very much alive in the indie space.

paultimate14, do games w Nostalgia and remake culture

Or… Maybe for most of human history we re-told the same stories over and over again for thousands of years until the relatively recent concept of “intellectual property” has forbidden us individuals from doing what comes naturally, forming this sort of weird resentment for when corporations do it?

Warl0k3,

This is a real Im14AndThisIsDeep meme. More people have access to platforms where they can share their creative works than at any other point in human history, if you aren’t seeing it then you’re not really trying to find it. That point would be fair, too; its hard to find original content (even more so with the rise of AI-driven SEO). It’s not the trend in hollywood, but hollywood doesn’t define culture NEARLY as much as they’d like to think they do…)

Nexy, (edited )
@Nexy@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

I think that lately people are taking refuge in things that made them happy in the past because not being able to see a clear future in their lives. Returning again and again to the things that made them happy in their day. And companies are only taking advantage of that. I’m not saying new thing don’t exist, I’m saying people are not willing to search them because they only want to escape to the past.

Idk, I see more people that they live is something like pokemon that actually they family, career or they own projects or dreams.

Klear,

People have always done that.

orrk,

nah, Hollywood defines culture more than you seem to accept.

Warl0k3,

You’ve a winning argument, to be sure! Not sure where I quantified how much I think hollywood influences culture but okay.

FWIW, obviously popular media both is influential and responds to culture. “Hollywood” really shouldn’t be treated as a singular entity if we’re trying for a semblance of legitimacy. This is really quickly going to fall into a discussion of the role of the audience and how that’s changed in the digital era (vs. when Aristotle first brought it up…), and neither of us care enough to suffer through thay. Suffice to say it’s not cut and dry, and beyond that I dont know any better than you do what specific impact they have (and neither do they).

emuspawn,
@emuspawn@orbiting.observer avatar

Is defining culture the same as advancing culture?

orrk,

fuck is “advancing culture” exactly? honest question, because the idea of culture advancing is a farce, it changes yes, but advancing is some constructionist idea that always draws from some authoritarian colonialist bullshit, example, the “advanced European culture” vs “the primitive non-Europeans”

emuspawn,
@emuspawn@orbiting.observer avatar

That’s a pretty good question. I 💯 agree that it can fall into authoritarian colonial bullshit, and in fact that’s probably what I was thinking of in terms of ‘defining’ vs ‘advancing’. I’ll invoke the case of the ‘Sad Puppies’, a bunch of lame ass white men who were super mad that the Hugos were overwhelmingly going to ‘not white men’ (read: interesting BIPOC voices everyone loves and gaspwomen?!).

I would probably claim the Sad Puppies tried to define culture.

The rest of the attendees advanced it by telling them to fuck right off.

Semjaza,

There is a baseline of quality that is hard for a plucky individual to match outside of mono-medium media.

While it is possible for good video games to be produced by a single indivudal or very small team, it is a lot of work on their part and hard to do if worried about paying for food, rent, etc.

Filmic media (is there a good noun that joins movies and fiction TV shows as a unified object?), a solid level of difficulty above that.

SnotFlickerman,
@SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

What are you talking about? George Lucas invented the Hero’s Journey! It’s his birthright! /s

SuperSaiyanSwag, do games w Sid Meier's Pirates, and everyone else in the game, are aware of the date...

Good find OP. This just might be my favorite gaming moment of this month.

blazeknave,

Especially with 7 in the air!

Flamekebab, do games w Sid Meier's Pirates, and everyone else in the game, are aware of the date...
@Flamekebab@piefed.social avatar

Yarr, almost slipped me notice that today be 19th o' September!

Rhynoplaz, do games w Sid Meier's Pirates, and everyone else in the game, are aware of the date...

I never forget Talk like a Pirate Day! It’s my daughter’s birthday! 😁

njm1314,

Happy birthday to her then!

Lemminary,

May she plunder the shores and claim herself fair wenches across the seven seas!

makingStuffForFun, do games w Sid Meier's Pirates, and everyone else in the game, are aware of the date...
@makingStuffForFun@lemmy.ml avatar

I could have sailed and sailed and sailed. Lived it. Loved it.

Never knew about the Easter egg. Nice find!

johannesvanderwhales, do games w Nostalgia and remake culture

Or uh maybe old games are still good and it makes sense to provide an easy way for newer generations to play them? If a record label remasters a Beatles album do we get mad over that? Music doesn’t have an expiration date so why should games?

Nexy,
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  • johannesvanderwhales,

    Presumably because they are continually picking up new players from younger age groups while retaining many older players, but I don’t really have any interest in those games so I don’t know much about them. I’m not really seeing how this directly relates to my comment, either.

    switchboard_pete,
    • absolute population growing
    • share of population with feasible access to pokemon-compatible consoles growing
    • share of population who see video games as a legitimate pastime growing
    paultimate14,

    Scarlet and Violet may only run at 10FPS and there are plenty of other flaws, but it’s still a ton of fun. And those are sequels, not remakes. The gameplay is a dramatic shift from everything the mainline series has done before.

    Legends Arceus has performance issues too, but was was critically acclaimed.

    As for the remakes, they’re generally pretty good upgrades. Gen 1 has really aged poorly, but FRLG are fantastic. I never liked Diamond or Pearl, but BDSP were really solid and fixed almost everything they could without making fundamental changes to the game. I’m really hoping they re-make Gen 5 because those are my favorite and they are stuck on the DS- my adult hands can’t handle holding something that small for hours on end.

    PhlubbaDubba,

    Clodsire alone proves your entire premise is incorrect.

    He is a friend shaped ferry fish ðat only knows how to love!

    ApollosArrow,

    This is a very good example. I am going to steal this in the future.

    ShinkanTrain,

    I don’t think it costs over 200 million and 5 years of labor to remaster a Beatles album, but I’d believe it if you told me that’s what they charge

    SnotFlickerman, do games w Nostalgia and remake culture
    @SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

    It’s easier to imagine the end of the world than the end of capitalism

    -Frederic Jameson

    Semjaza, do games w Nostalgia and remake culture

    Or maybe in a post-modern world we use (mostly empty) signifiers to give ourselves meaning and show allegiance to a subculture.

    Its why we pepper our speech with allusions and cultural in-jokes - but where in the past they were tied to more concrete ideology, now they are simply signs that one has consumed the same media as someone. And the existing signifiers have more cultural clout than new ones, except to signify an interest in non-mainstream cultural products.
    For the self has become simply a vessel for consumption. There is nothing beyond the consumption of product.
    Especially as public allegiance to a non-neoliberal ideology is seen as uncivil. Unsurprisingly more peaceful Left-wing ideologies less civil and more incorrect that violent far Right ones, because the Left will always be more critical of consumption as the purpose of life.

    Despite being wrong, Fukuyama’s inflammatory title has polluted the mind of the Anglophone and European cultural zone.

    CheesyFox,

    damn, i see why you’re posting this from lemmynsfw, your comment is not safe for work, because now i don’t wanna do anything but roll up in a blanket and pose some existential questions to myself. And to think, the day has just began.

    Tedesche, do games w Nostalgia and remake culture

    Where is there any evidence that such a culture exists? The remake trend is being driven by corporate execs at gaming companies that see remakes as more financially safe than new games.

    Mr_Dr_Oink, do games w Nostalgia and remake culture

    Say what you like but people have been screaming for a ff7 remake ever since ff10. I think thats too soon to count as nostalgia. We just wanted ff7 to look like ff10.

    SplashJackson,

    Yeah, I remember wanting this for the PS2, and it never did.

    Jank,

    If you ask people what they want they’ll tell you ten things they’ve already seen.

    Wogi,

    Where my FF8 homies at tho

    dwemthy,
    PyroNeurosis,

    Bah, VI or nothing.

    Crafter72, (edited ) do games w Persona vs Main Series

    If someone wondering how big is the Megami Tensei universe (the series as a whole), this picture below probably the closest I can get. There are other pictures too but I guess this one is the one that have connection between the games.

    EDIT: I remove the image link just to avoid the headache of the lore and consistencies.

    Imo what I like from this series (especially on the main line series) compared to the other JRPG games is that the mythology portrayal, the mature themes and the battle of “Law vs Chaos” is that great and doesn’t shy away from source material. I couldn’t explained it myself but it is just something different than your average JRPG.

    Read at your own riskLiterally in one of the mainline game, you have to battle YHVH

    Oh and Megami Tensei almost always has banger OST if you all never played them.

    otp,

    Interesting. I saw Catherine on that chart, but not Jack Bros…

    Crafter72,

    Now that you mention it, also no Synchronicity prologue, SH2, IV:A missing… Definitely this chart came before Persona 5 as it has the placeholder art instead of the released game cover art.

    PieMePlenty,

    I thought this game was about going to school and dating.

    icecreamtaco, (edited )
    @icecreamtaco@lemmy.world avatar

    It is. Then you go into the dungeon crawler side of the game and some psychopath is making deals with elder gods.

    Also the Persona subseries is lighter and has more mass market appeal. Most of the other games put you into an apocalypse within the first hour.

    Crafter72,

    The social element is introduced in Persona 3 however the school setting can be traced back to SMT: if… that also introduces the spin off series Persona (Persona 3 before the re-release P3FES was marketed with Shin Megami Tensei moniker).

    BuboScandiacus,
    @BuboScandiacus@mander.xyz avatar

    Catherine is in the smt universe too ?!

    Crafter72,

    No, however it loosely contain some elements of mainline games like alignment “Law vs Chaos”, multiple endings, and moral/motives. Full body expands the multiple endings a bit especially with the new character.

    Juice, do games w Nostalgia and remake culture
    Rumbelows, do games w Sid Meier's Pirates, and everyone else in the game, are aware of the date...

    I loved this game. There was a pretty good iOS port a few years back but sadly it’s no longer supported.

    JASN_DE, do games w Nostalgia and remake culture

    Nah. It’s just a management decision to ensure shareholder satisfaction by reusing proven bestsellers.

    Ashtear,

    Still need market demand. People want these products.

    You can’t just chase a trend and throw out a game and expect it to print money. Ask Sony how that went for their run at a hero shooter.

    chicken,

    But I think the point is, the OP meme is wrong to try painting this as some kind of society-wide psychological pathology, when it’s rather business people coming up with simple reliable formulas to make money. The space of possible products people could want is large, and this choice isn’t only about what people want, but what will get attention. People will readily pay attention to and discuss with others something they already have a connection to in a way they wouldn’t with some new thing, even if they would rather have something new.

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