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M500, do gaming w Hogwarts Legacy Just Broke A 14-Year Games Industry Streak – For the first time since 2008, something other than Call of Duty or a Rockstar game was the best-seller

Is this game really that good? I’ve been holding out on buying it.

henfredemars,

My wife is a big Harry Potter fan but has mixed feelings about it. She described the game this morning as not great but not bad either, with great graphics, but also with an indecisiveness to it that suggests too many cooks in the kitchen.

With that said, that’s just one opinion. The game seems outstandingly popular. She felt it’s worth the money if you can get it on sale in her personal opinion.

eRac,

My wife and I had the same opinion. Magical to run around the castle for a few hours and do the early classes, surprisingly good combat mechanics, but then… Nothing.

It is really hurt by the inclusion of brooms. They necessitate a huge world so you can’t cross it in a minute, but then it’s too spread out and empty. At least in Ghost Recon my world-design-crippling flying devices have rockets and gattling guns.

Mickey,

Totally agree with this. The first few hours were great but then when you get the broom and you see the huge open space that’s just really lacking. I really wish it never went to that scale.

potemkinhr,
@potemkinhr@lemmy.ml avatar

You may hit the nail on the head, once you get the broom you just breeze past everyhring. The forbidden forest may be the most dense content wise on foot, everything after that does feel more sparse as it was designed with the broom in mind. All in all I still enjoyed the game and got my moneys worth out of it, I did pick it up rather cheap on a sale

HerbalGamer,
@HerbalGamer@sh.itjust.works avatar

And then for some reason they decide to give you some worse modes of transport later on for fuck knows why

M500,

Thanks! I think I’ll hold off on this title. I don’t have much time for gaming and open world games can be got it miss for me. This one sounds like it might be a miss.

Neato,
@Neato@ttrpg.network avatar

It’s a standard open world game. If that appeals to you and you love HP then perhaps.

movies,

I got it on sale in December and think it’s worth it. I’m not a huge HP fan by any stretch but was impressed by the mechanics, they’re fun. Though as the game opens up you start to spot the tedious shit all open worlds tend to throw in to keep you busy. I just ignore that shit.

M500,

Thanks! I hate when open works games do this. I might skip out on it for this reason.

Zoot,
@Zoot@reddthat.com avatar

I’ve been enjoying the game as well. Not so much the story, or even “day by day” quest line its had. Once you get into the game and it opens though as the last guy said, it also has a lot of fun activities. You can also customize youre own “room” with the many magical creatures you can find as well.

If you liked the books, and just want to enjoy the game to feel what it might be like as a wizard than its an awesome game.

ThunderWhiskers,
@ThunderWhiskers@lemmy.world avatar

No.

It’s extremely popular because it is a well polished Harry Potter game; something the world has been begging for for a long time. It does invoke that sense of magic that the films do so well, so if you’re just looking to get a fresh hit of the Hogwarts world it’s great. There are also a lot of really interesting and well designed characters. Most of all the world, particularly the castle, is beautifully and lovingly crafted.

The game buried beneath all that polish is a pretty basic-ass RPG. It is crammed with filler fetch/find quests. The dialogue system is just another exhaust all options non-system. The combat has some really cool ideas on paper but I personally ended up mostly mashing buttons against one of like 5 generic enemies most of the time. Also the only customization in this RPG is your appearance.

It’s not a bad game by any means, but i wouldn’t say it’s great either.

TIMMAY,

As much as I enjoyed the game, I cant deny anything said here. Pretty much sums it up

LucidNightmare,

I also agree with the above statements. The best way I could describe it is that while the gameplay wasn’t all that spectacular, experiencing the game world was definitely a treat, and made me smile like I did the first time I opened the first Harry Potter book or played the first games that game out on PS1!

TIMMAY,

Oh big time, I told myself going in that I wasnt going to also listen to all of the audiobooks again but I definitely did

LucidNightmare,

Haha! I actually listened to the audiobooks on the lead up to the release to get myself in that warm and cozy mindset for the game. Those books are like comfort food for my soul.

TIMMAY,

Im basically always juggling back to back harry potter and wherl of time read-throughs

LucidNightmare,

I recently learned of the wheel of time series!

Can you give me some of your opinions on it? I made it to book 3 of Lord of the Rings, and just couldn’t put up with the purple writing any longer. Segments just seemed to drag on and on and on just to get through some dialogue that could’ve been said with a lot less flowery prose. It was charming at first, but I couldn’t put up with it any longer by book three, at least going back to back. I will finish it one day though! 😭

TIMMAY, (edited )

Ill preface with the fact that overall I think it’s more than worth your time, and is one of the greatest works of fiction ever made. That being said, it takes a little work to read as it is a VERY long series, and does a lot of worldbuilding. There is a point towards the middle where the “depth of field” of the story increases dramatically, and from my experience and my friend who has also read them, that is typically a burnout point. There isnt as much prose as in Tolkien’s works, though some of that is just cultural/temporal, but Robert Jordan was definitely in love with the story and takes the time to describe things fairly often. Im confident you’re likely to greatly enjoy the first three books and the last few books, but the middle could be a stumbling block.

Additionally, if you aren’t aware already, RJ passed away before the last book(s) could be finished and his wife arranged for Brandon Sanderson to collate all of the drafts and notes and conjure up a conclusion, which could definitely be something to consider. Personally, I was already a Brandon Sanderson fan before I read WoT, and I loved the ending.

One last thing, if you are deterred by the series or not ready to try it yet but still want a less-daunting rec, I love to recommend the Licanius Trilogy by James Islington. It is a reasonable length, it is one complete story, and it is just 🤌. End rant

edit: I forgot to mention that I am an audiobook-oriented person and greatly prefer them for the wheel of time. They’re narrated by Michael Kramer and Kate Reading, and they are EXCELLENT narrators.

LucidNightmare,

You’ve got a friend in me, as the only times I have to allocate towards books is the hour commute to and from work every day, I will listen to my audiobooks that I have found or that have been recommended by wonderful people like you!

I will give the Wheel of Time and even the Licanius Trilogy a go, as I do like the epicness of LotR!

It is crazy how narrators can make or break some books though, isn’t it?!

Also, I just finished Fahrenheit 451, and the narrator had the “golden-age” of radio kinda voice and made it so much better than if I was just reading it myself!

Thank you again for taking the time out of your day to gush about something you love! 😁

Cavemanfreak,

If you do like Wheel of Time it’s always worth giving Brandon himself a shot as well. He’s busy writing his own universe called Cosmere. It’s got a few different series based on different planets and magic systems that can mostly be read as standalones, but they are also connected in… let’s just say ‘certain ways’ for now. Mistborn is a popular starting point. Personally I think ‘Emperor’s Soul’ is better if you want to try out his writing style, since it’s only about 100 pages or so.

wccrawford,

If you aren’t sure, wait for a big sale. I quite enjoyed the game, but other than being a massively-popular IP, I’m not sure why it’s getting so much acclaim. It’s big, it’s Harry Potter (with all the attention to detail that usually gets), and it’s an RPG. If it wasn’t HP, it’d be another good indie game, and that’s it.

rickyrigatoni,

It’s a casual game that lets you run around the world of harry potter casting spells at people and things, solving puzzles, and wearing silly wizard clothes. If that sounds good to you then it’s good.

Murdoc,

Pretty much, yeah, that’s what I want. Character maker?

sheogorath,

If you’re a HP fan the game is a no-brainer. But if not I suggest finding another AAA RPG game. I borrowed my friend’s copy via family sharing and I only got maybe around 4-5 hours in before I got bored and uninstalled the game.

rickyrigatoni,

The character customization is pretty good. Mostly just face and hair iirc but there’s a good bit of options. You can also customize your wand. That’s the most important bit I’d say.

Murdoc,

Cool, thanks!

SchizoDenji,

It’s fun, lemmy/reddit screeches (rightfully so) about JKR’s views but that doesn’t mean the game itself is bad.

CaptPretentious,

I’d say if you’ve ever wondered what it be like to just wander about the castle, it’s well worth it. It’s cheaper than going to say universal studios or the Warner Brothers lot in London…

But there’s actually very little gameplay in the castle around areas you recognize from the books or movies. It doesn’t take long until you’re throwing into a very generic game with a thin coat of Harry Potter paint applied. There’s a lot of samey quests and combat doesn’t really evolve ever.

M500,

Thanks, this game seems very skipable. I keep reading lukewarm reviews of it.

melroy, do gaming w Ubisoft Wants You To Be Comfortable Not Owning Your Games
@melroy@kbin.melroy.org avatar

You have the same problem with Steam already for years.. I mean you do not have a physical copy anymore. In fact if Steam is down, you might not be able to download, play or play multiplayer. So you own nothing and be happy - WEF.

scrubbles,
!deleted6348 avatar

And people think I’m crazy for buying physical discs of movies and having 20+ hdds spinning

melroy,
@melroy@kbin.melroy.org avatar

I did thought you were crazy in the past indeed. Since digital is the future, right? It might still is, but for some reason all game studios, producers and distributors like ubisoft or steam just create bad software/games. Where you need 24/7 internet connection and doesn't allow you to own a digital offline copy of the product. It's not just games.

Kolanaki,
!deleted6508 avatar

That is crazy. Why not upgrade to SSDs instead of HDDs?

Senal,

Cost per GiB is higher and long term reliability is lower in most scenarios.

The failure scenarios for spinning rust tends to work better with large storage arrays as well.

Not all absolutes, but enough of them are true on a common enough basis that spending the extra on SSD’s isn’t usually worth it.

If you want some real in depth explanations there’s probably a datahoarder community somewhere or reddit if you are so inclined.

Quexotic,

www.redswitches.com/blog/ssd-vs-hdd/

This looks like an okay analysis.

scrubbles,
!deleted6348 avatar

I can get a 20tb HDD right now for $300. When I am talking about 100s of TBs it makes a difference

blindsight,

Steam is different, though; many games have no DRM and even more just have Steam’s DRM that’s already been cracked globally and is super quick to patch. They also maintain access to paid games even after they’re delisted.

AFAIK, the only problems with maintaining access to Stream games are software-as-a-service games when servers go down (MMOs and multiplayer servers, basically) and music with expired licenses (fuck the RIAA and copyright law for that one; not much Steam can do about that.) I have many delisted games in my library and I can download them any time I want.

Sure, Steam could go down, at some point. Maybe. But it’s not a big concern.

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    Nope.. Some games will fail to start if the "main" server is down or some authentication server or whatever server it nowadays might depend on. So even if you install a game now and let it rest of years, the changes it will start again over 10 years is very low. I'm not even talking about multiplayer, since multiplayer will be definitively broken by then. And LAN features are no longer implemented by game devs.

    I do agree that gamepass will only make matters worse.

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    Some games might work fine, I mentioned "some" game will fail. Especially if they require you to login first to some kind of auth. server.

    iegod, do gaming w Hogwarts Legacy Just Broke A 14-Year Games Industry Streak – For the first time since 2008, something other than Call of Duty or a Rockstar game was the best-seller

    To no one’s surprise.

    dangblingus, do gaming w Hogwarts Legacy Just Broke A 14-Year Games Industry Streak – For the first time since 2008, something other than Call of Duty or a Rockstar game was the best-seller

    Culture warriors would rather play a mid rpg at $80 than admit that JK Rowling is a bigot who is bad at world building.

    Silentiea,

    She is a terrible bigot, and a loud one, and that sucks because she also produced a cultural phenomenon of my childhood, and while the canon of HP is only just barely pretty okay sometimes, it spiralled out from there and SO MUCH of the media and culture I’ve consumed and existed within since then has been informed by it.

    So yeah. If there’s any comfort, let it be that any money she gets from this comes from explicitly affirming a trans woman through the work, as well as implicitly affirming any trans players through the character creation options. Small comfort maybe, but she is far away.

    Zahille7,

    That’s how I justified it to myself.

    That, and there was an entire team of people working on this game for years, trying to make it the best vision of theirs as well as making it fit within the pre established world.

    Zitronensaft, do gaming w Square Enix Wants To Make Fewer Games – New CEO Takashi Kiryu wants to focus on making AAA and indie titles and marketing those titles better

    This article was a wild ride. I have not been keeping up with Square Enix so I had no idea they were all in on the web3 hype and now AI, too. I am wondering what is going on with the title “Infinity Strash: Dragon Quest The Adventure of Dai”, did AI come up with that wordy name? What even is a Strash?

    Someone needs to teach this company about sunk costs. Just because they invested in blockchain and AI doesn’t mean they need to keep throwing money and resources at it. Maybe they would have a better marketing budget and better market research into the new trends in their field if they weren’t so busy constantly salivating over all the latest tech bro hype.

    mateomaui, do gaming w Ubisoft Wants You To Be Comfortable Not Owning Your Games

    They should get comfortable with me downloading cracked versions of their games.

    Beardedsausag3,
    @Beardedsausag3@kbin.social avatar

    A-fucken-hoy matey! 🏴‍☠️ May the seas bless your sails today.

    Transporter_Room_3,
    @Transporter_Room_3@startrek.website avatar

    The developers that come out and tell people “pirate our game and if you like it consider buying when you can” will always get my money.

    Developers who tell us we own nothing and should be pleased about it can get my steel and cannonballs, cause this ship is ready to set sail.

    Flaky,
    @Flaky@iusearchlinux.fyi avatar

    They actually used cracked versions of their games years ago. Rockstar were also caught red-handed using cracked EXEs.

    phillaholic,

    Why not?

    Flaky,
    @Flaky@iusearchlinux.fyi avatar

    I don’t protest it, it’s just funny to see the companies act hypocritical.

    iAmTheTot, do gaming w Hogwarts Legacy Just Broke A 14-Year Games Industry Streak – For the first time since 2008, something other than Call of Duty or a Rockstar game was the best-seller
    @iAmTheTot@kbin.social avatar

    Been waiting to pick it up cheap second hand. Not interested in financially supporting it.

    newcool1230,

    Just… pirate it… 🦜

    iAmTheTot,
    @iAmTheTot@kbin.social avatar

    Honestly, considered it even though I haven't pirated a game in like twenty years. But when I found out the the person who cracked the game is also a hateful bigot, I didn't even want to download their work. Nah, I'll buy it second hand.

    java, do gaming w Hogwarts Legacy Just Broke A 14-Year Games Industry Streak – For the first time since 2008, something other than Call of Duty or a Rockstar game was the best-seller

    Oh no somebody doesn’t like trans people, let’s shit in comments about a moderately related game for like forever /s

    You want acceptance, but you can’t accept the fact that somebody disagrees with you. That’s pathetic.

    xor,

    “Moderately related” as in “written by and with royalties paid to”

    People, and trans people especially, absolutely have good reason to not want to buy a product that directly funds a person who is actively hostile to their existence.

    You can’t deal with critical comments from a community who are directly affected by the actions of a major stakeholder? That’s pathetic.

    jackpot,
    @jackpot@lemmy.ml avatar

    what has she even said exactly about trans people, ‘actively hostile to their existence’ sounds like shes called for genocide???

    i_ben_fine,
    @i_ben_fine@lemmy.one avatar

    stupid sealioning.

    jackpot,
    @jackpot@lemmy.ml avatar

    for anyone else who hasnt heard this term before:

    Sealioning Sealioning is a type of trolling or harassment that consists of pursuing people with relentless requests for evidence, often tangential or previously addressed, while maintaining a pretense of civility and sincerity, and feigning ignorance of the subject matter.

    does that sum up what you think i said lmao?

    i_ben_fine,
    @i_ben_fine@lemmy.one avatar

    Yeah, you’re doing that in this thread. Pretty good example.

    jackpot,
    @jackpot@lemmy.ml avatar

    me when i expect everyone to be up to date on everything at all times that i care about.

    rainynight65,

    She actively campaigns against trans rights and has said that if you buy her stuff, you support her position.

    jackpot,
    @jackpot@lemmy.ml avatar

    shes wrong about the second part if she said that, it just means you dont care enough about their position (/ them) to stop you or you believe in art ≠ artist. about the first part, it’s too vague for me to take a stance on. if shes called for their deaths thats horrific. if she said that trans minors should get a 40 minute psych checkup before irreversible surgery, i couldnt care less.

    rainynight65,

    I suggest you do your own research then. From everything I’ve read, JKR is a horrible person and virulently anti-trans. There are a lot of ways to br horrific without outright calling for people’s deaths.

    jackpot,
    @jackpot@lemmy.ml avatar

    i dont put that much weight on some random authors societal takes to research them. if shes calling to take away trans peoples votes or for them to be removed from the work force or something insane thats wrong. if shes just saying ‘idc about peoples preferred pronouns’ i couldnt gaf, shes one person of billions, so what honestly.

    rainynight65,

    She’s one person influencing millions, if not billions, that’s for sure. She’s not some random author, she is one of the most well known personalities of the 20th and 21st century. Her opinions carry weight, as misguided as that may be on the part of her followers.

    I’d partially agree with you if we were talking about some random who has sold a few hundred kindle copies of their book on Amazon and is spewing nonsense. And even then I’d call for people to not support that author in any way shape or form. JKR is however hugely influential, and that absolutely should matter when it comes to deciding who you give your money to.

    The_Sasswagon,

    First: she doesn’t need to say anything specifically or explicitly to be a transphobe actively hostile to the existence of trans people.

    Second: she says things and creates spaces that are very specifically and explicitly hostile to the existence of trans people.

    Third: she associates with and collaborates with people who openly advocate for “reductions in trans people”.

    Honestly I could go through my understanding of her issue, but many people have spoken at great length about why her behavior is harmful. If you’re truly interested seek them out.

    jackpot,
    @jackpot@lemmy.ml avatar

    ‘hostile to the existence of trans people’ “reductions in trans people”

    either she genuinely wants genocide or youre being intentuonally misleading, this sounds like hitler describing jews.

    apotheotic,

    She basically wants genocide, yes. The person you’re replying to was accurate.

    jackpot,
    @jackpot@lemmy.ml avatar

    thats horrible but if so thats totally illegal and she’d be imprisoned, can you provide a source.

    apotheotic,

    You can search up “jk Rowling transphobic” or “jk Rowling anti trans” and you’ll find a plethora of sources yourself, this isn’t really a controversial thing. She’s the most well loved transphobe in the world.

    apotheotic,

    You’re on the beehaw instance, bee nice.

    It makes absolute sense that people are passionately against this game, which puts money directly in the pockets of not only a very vocal transphobe with a huge following-but one who actively finances anti-trans causes. The game itsself has its own incredibly problematic issues, but I focus on the transphobia because that’s what your comment was concerned with.

    Quite frankly, yes, we want acceptance. But “acceptance” of trans people as people who have human rights should be the bare minimum. That is in no way comparable to pushing back against this game, or pushing back against JKR.

    dangblingus,

    Ya. I choose not to support bigots whenever possible. Im such a loser.

    Amaltheamannen, do gaming w Hogwarts Legacy Just Broke A 14-Year Games Industry Streak – For the first time since 2008, something other than Call of Duty or a Rockstar game was the best-seller

    Would have tried it out if the author wasn’t a transphobic piece of shit. Might pirate it.

    HerbalGamer,
    @HerbalGamer@sh.itjust.works avatar

    I did. it was alright. Worth it if you want to explore hogwarts and surroundings.

    jonsnothere,

    It’s not worth it, and while the transphobia is absent, the antisemitism is still there

    rainynight65,

    Also, the erstwhile lead designer was a far right agitator.

    SchizoDenji,

    Might pirate it.

    Wait till you learn about who cracked that game.

    FluffyPotato,

    Oh yea Empress may be the most transphobic person alive currently

    SchizoDenji,

    Not even close tbh. There are middle eastern states that kill Trans people.

    FluffyPotato,

    I’m pretty sure that if she had the power to do so she would have deathsquads going after anyone remotely suspected of being trans. I was in her telegram group just to watch the crazy unfold and she is absolutely batshit and hates trans people with a burning passion.

    Microplasticbrain,

    Wtf is wrong with people

    marxistsynths19, do gaming w Hogwarts Legacy Just Broke A 14-Year Games Industry Streak – For the first time since 2008, something other than Call of Duty or a Rockstar game was the best-seller

    I can’t believe this made so made so much money. If I had a pc, I still wouldn’t pirate it. Millennials need to collectively get over Harry Potter.

    Kecessa,

    Millennials? Kids under 10 still go batshit for it!

    pearsaltchocolatebar,

    I can absolutely believe it made that much money.

    Grass,

    The youngest millennials should be in their 30s. I doubt enough of them have the time or money for this to blame the whole generation.

    Pratai,

    Sorry, are the neighborhood kids on your yard again?

    richmondez,

    Yeah people really need to stop having fun in ways I disapprove of, totally with you on that.

    GreyEyedGhost,

    I’ve seen the movies and read the books, and I’m not a millenial. I also don’t have time to play all the games I’d like to, so I can take a pass on supporting the person spreading hate and occupy my time playing something else, instead.

    KeenFlame,

    Another way of saying you have deep empathic issues

    Russianranger, do gaming w Square Enix Wants To Make Fewer Games – New CEO Takashi Kiryu wants to focus on making AAA and indie titles and marketing those titles better

    It’s interesting because I swear I buzzed by an article the other day with some eye roll complaint about there being too many games, and that’s why it was hard for games to sell.

    There are a lot of games, but it means that people want to engage with games that are actually fun and aren’t soulless cash grabs or half baked early access with no real value or fun.

    It’s just the basic “quality versus quantity” principle. Instead of shoveling out crap like Rise of Kong, Gollum, The Day Before, etc etc, just focus your efforts on a single good game. The only recent exception to this rule I guess would be Starfield, but that’s for Bethesda to figure out on how to salvage.

    SatouKazuma,
    @SatouKazuma@lemmy.world avatar

    Speaking of salvage…at this point I think Bethesda themselves might be worth salvage value at this point. If they were willing to release a turd like Starfield, imagine what they’ll do to TES VI.

    Iapar,

    Turds eat shit part six.

    SatouKazuma,
    @SatouKazuma@lemmy.world avatar

    Whoa whoa whoa…when did Todd Howard become the protagonist?

    Russianranger,

    Yeah… I don’t have high hopes for TESVI. After FO76 and Starfield, they’ve got a lot of trust to win back. I expect it to be the following;

    • Slow rise in hype after 2025
    • Sharp rise in hype within year of release
    • Honeymoon phase for first 5 days after release, criticism drowned out by fan boys
    • Collective realization the game is shit with only the most delusional still protecting/coping

    That’s basically what happened with Starfield, and unless they prove otherwise, it’s what I expect for TESVI

    SatouKazuma,
    @SatouKazuma@lemmy.world avatar

    I’ve started turning more and more to indie games now, and I’ve found quite a few games I’ve loved that way. Deep Rock Galactic, Streets of Rogue, Valheim (before realising it’s abandonware)…honestly, good fucking riddance to the consoles who make it impossible to enjoy games by smaller studios.

    Russianranger,

    Same. Indie games and emulators is what I’ve been putting a lot of my time into. I’ve learned that “AAA” studios are a lot like their alkaline counterparts - basically obsolete.

    Valheim I agree. I did get a ton of enjoyment out of it on release, so it’s not really a matter of disappointment in the sense of fun per dollar, just disappointment in the glacial pace of updates. My feeling is that the Devs got their bag, then decided to just coast. It makes me wonder that if it didn’t explode in sales at the start, would they have put more effort into updates or would they have just given up. Guess we’ll never truly know

    SatouKazuma,
    @SatouKazuma@lemmy.world avatar

    I think that’s going to be the big one in terms of changing the pattern of early purchases. It will also make it much harder for future indie devs to sell their games, which really fucking sucks.

    Omega_Haxors, do gaming w Hogwarts Legacy Just Broke A 14-Year Games Industry Streak – For the first time since 2008, something other than Call of Duty or a Rockstar game was the best-seller

    A racist a transphobe and an antisemite walk into a bar. The bartender looks up and says “aren’t you that girl who wrote HP?”

    JQ Lolling stares unflinchingly ahead and states “Your teacher, Professor Eleazar Fig, dies at the end of Hogwarts Legacy. This happens in all possible endings and can’t be changed. Oh and Rookwood is the one who cursed Anne while the goblins were framed. Also, you’re also required to quell a slave uprising and you have no choice in the matter.”

    Secret300, do gaming w Square Enix Wants To Make Fewer Games – New CEO Takashi Kiryu wants to focus on making AAA and indie titles and marketing those titles better

    I think that’s a good idea. There are so many games coming out all the time and if they spend more resources on a single game it’ll be better. Right?

    CptEnder,

    Eh. Hopefully this doesn’t include their 2DHD department. Those are probably classified as low budget but are by far and away the best games they make rn.

    BumpingFuglies, do gaming w Square Enix Wants To Make Fewer Games – New CEO Takashi Kiryu wants to focus on making AAA and indie titles and marketing those titles better

    indie

    You keep using that word, AAA developer/publisher Square Enix. I don’t think it means what you think it means.

    slimerancher,
    @slimerancher@lemmy.world avatar

    Haha, they probably means the smaller games they release. Like that “Various Daylife”, what to call these games? They aren’t AAA or AA.

    angrytoadnoises, do gaming w Hogwarts Legacy Just Broke A 14-Year Games Industry Streak – For the first time since 2008, something other than Call of Duty or a Rockstar game was the best-seller
    @angrytoadnoises@lemmygrad.ml avatar

    HogLeg’s success is pretty crazy if you think about it. Ignoring the sales we’ve looking at today, take yourself back to the launch of HogLeg. It kept up pace with Fallout 4 in terms of active players and achievement completion rates. This is huge to me. They’re both singleplayer RPGs, so they’re both vying for the same type of audience. *But.*Fallout 4 was a hugely anticipated sequel to one of the most renowned series in all of gaming. Harry Potter had almost no presence in gaming beyond nostalgic shovel ware titles.

    Fallout 4 was developed by gaming darlings, a company known for producing huge open worlds with strong volumes of content. HogLeg was developed by shovelware developers with no major releases in their history.

    Fallout 4 is a first person looter shooter, one of the most ubiquitous and successful genres out there. HogLeg is an action roleplaying game, still admittedly a safe genre but doesn’t have the genre conventions that makes it possible for anyone with FPS experience to pick up a Fallout.

    And finally, Fallout 4 targeted gamers. It’s a gamer’s game, you know? It’s for lore nerds and RPG fans and tacticool nuts and all the rest. HogLeg was for Harry Potter fans. It needed to drag fans across media types to secure a big enough audience.

    I truly, truly did not expect HogLeg to find the success it has. And to be honest, it’s quite a mid game! It’s a visual accomplishment and adherence to the universe means that it’s a treat for any Harry Potter nerds, but the rest of the game is as close as generic as it could get.

    BarrierWithAshes,
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    Wow. Good comparison. Didn't realize how close they were. In both being average games too.

    SkyNTP,

    And finally, Fallout 4 targeted gamers. It’s a gamer’s game, you know? It’s for lore nerds and RPG fans and tacticool nuts and all the rest. HogLeg was for Harry Potter fans. It needed to drag fans across media types to secure a big enough audience.

    This is… perhaps, the very formula for its success. Perhaps the gaming crowd isn’t that big. Perhaps, HL was not chained to a particular demographic and instead had the freedom to appeal to a wider audience.

    I know of people who picked up a controller for the first time in their life because HL was a Harry Potter game… just saying.

    WitchHazel,

    Yeah, I feel like their logic is circular. Choosing to actively ignore the fact that the game is based off one of the most popular book series in the entire world is frustratingly dense, and feels like they’re stanning for the sake of it. From what I understand, the game is ridiculously repetitive, and is genuinely riding solely off of the popularity of the book series.

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