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dog_, do gaming w Don't make me turn this car around!

My comment stands!

Edit: lemmy.world/comment/9998340

ummthatguy, do gaming w Don't make me turn this car around!
@ummthatguy@lemmy.world avatar

Taking lessons from EA. RIP Maxis, Westwood, etc.

https://i.makeagif.com/media/5-15-2017/TaQ_lR.gif

massive_bereavement,
@massive_bereavement@kbin.social avatar

Rejoice, children of Nod!

ummthatguy,
@ummthatguy@lemmy.world avatar
bleistift2,

Maxis fucked up Sim City, right?

ummthatguy,
@ummthatguy@lemmy.world avatar

“While Maxis were focusing on graphical improvements with the SimCity reboot, EA wanted to make the game multiplayer and always-online, in part to combat piracy. The game was subject to “one of the most disastrous launches in history”, as the game was released in a highly buggy state, with server failures plaguing players, and the open regions swiftly filling with abandoned cities.”

Maxis Wiki

UnderpantsWeevil, do gaming w Don't make me turn this car around!
@UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world avatar

Catch and Kill

In that case, its about shutting down news stories targeting wealthy and well-connected people. But same logic with video games.

anarchrist,

I think they just call it market consolidation but basically yeah.

MystikIncarnate, do games w Marvels Rivals requires creators to sign a contract that removes your right to give a negative review in order to access the playtest

As stupid as it is, it doesn’t stop a creator from simply demonstrating issues, without commentary. Just show people the issues and don’t remark on them.

That being said, nobody should sign this. Trying to forbid people from making satirical remarks? What the crap?

Gimpydude,

Do that while explaining how that contract clause works!

mechoman444,

They literally can’t do that. Satire is a protected right under the first amendment. Anyone can make public satirical remarks regardless of signing that contract.

purplemonkeymad,

You are aware that first amendment protects speech from government actions/bodies only. It’s not something you can use against a private business (there are other laws for discrimination.)

mechoman444,

The point of the contract is that if one is in breach the company can sue for damages and potentially remove the offending media.

The suing process would be through a legal body such as a court system, in this case federal court since the media is on the Internet, therefore the contract doesn’t hold any legal binding. No federal court would uphold a contract that violates the first amendment.

Contracts adhere to laws and rules just like any other legal document. You can’t just put whatever you want into a contract and have it be binding.

purplemonkeymad,

Sure, but that term does not violate the first amendment since the government didn’t stop you from saying it, so would hold up. You might be able to get it thrown out due to something else, you would need a lawyer for that.

That contract will have penalties for violations, and those are what you would be subject to if in violation.

mechoman444,

That’s not how that works. The contract is in and of itself a violation of the first amendment. Therefore it has no legal binding. They wouldn’t be able to remove the offending media from any platform or sue for damages if someone breached the contract.

If there are internal ramifications due to a breach of contract that’s something that could be handled internally, such as the content creator not being offered any review materials in the future. But a contract wouldn’t be necessary for that either way.

Moreover, specifically for satire, there are whole acts in the law advocating for it. There is absolutely nothing, no clause or agreement that would ever prohibit someone from publicly satiring any given entity. Regardless of any contract.

refalo,

federal court

lmao

badbytes, do games w Marvels Rivals requires creators to sign a contract that removes your right to give a negative review in order to access the playtest

Don’t worry folk’s. We pay taxes so that the FTC and FCC gotz our backz broz.

Emerald,

Do they have our back though?

StaySquared, do games w Marvels Rivals requires creators to sign a contract that removes your right to give a negative review in order to access the playtest

Well that’s stupid. Getting negative reviews is also a good thing. It allows you to re-evaluate your product(s). Pretty much you’re going to sell a half assed product, pretending it’s amazing because you refused to take critically-negative feedback from your paying customers. Guess they just want to completely obliterate their company.

deaf_fish,

That’s by design. They weren’t interested in writing a good game or getting honest feedback. They wanted everyone to buy it and get money for it.

Spaceinv8er, do games w Marvels Rivals requires creators to sign a contract that removes your right to give a negative review in order to access the playtest

This is just my opinion but most comic book based games suck anyway.

UnderpantsWeevil, do games w Marvels Rivals requires creators to sign a contract that removes your right to give a negative review in order to access the playtest
@UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world avatar

It doesn’t feel practical to enforce, save in so far as it lets them put you on a list of people not to extend future early-release games to. But you have to assume they were already doing that, as any marketing department worth its salt is going to have a boutique set of insider streamers who are effectively just contracted media flaks plugging your product.

On today’s episode of “This shouldn’t be legal”…

Think about it this way. The same guys who stream video game reviews to make money are paid by the advertisers who sponsor their streams. And the sponsor won’t pay for a stream if its disparaging of their content. So the streamer is being paid to cut an ad.

Imagine if you hired someone to go door-to-door selling people your sandwiches. And in the middle of each sales call the guys you hired would take a big bite, spit out the sandwich, and say “This is awful! I hate it!” What are you paying these asshole for?

Just stop pretending streamers are these independent objective observers and recognize them for what they are - online door-to-door sales guys. These early releases are just their sales kits. And why am I going to extend a sales kit to a guy who isn’t going to sell my shit?

haui_lemmy, do games w Marvels Rivals requires creators to sign a contract that removes your right to give a negative review in order to access the playtest

This is market manipulation at its best. The whole board should be jailed for it.

Emerald,

This is market manipulation at its best.

yes

The whole board should be jailed for it.

no

haui_lemmy,

no

Yes

Emerald,

No

MIDItheKID,

Maybe

Emerald,

so

ilinamorato, do games w Marvels Rivals requires creators to sign a contract that removes your right to give a negative review in order to access the playtest

They saw what MKBHD’s honest reviews did to Fisker and Humane and said “can we stop that from happening?”

caboose2006, do games w Marvels Rivals requires creators to sign a contract that removes your right to give a negative review in order to access the playtest

“I signed a contract that forbids me from saying anything negative about this game. I am therefore contractually obligated to say nothing”

explodicle,
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This game doesn’t ruin your entire day by playing it for even a second.

vinhill,

By the contract, you couldn’t say anything detrimental about the game, so such a statement would still be forbidden. Whether such a vague limitation on what a content creator can say would hold up in court is a different thing.

FiniteBanjo, do games w Marvels Rivals requires creators to sign a contract that removes your right to give a negative review in order to access the playtest

Does the contract also require a review to be made at all?

viking, do games w Marvels Rivals requires creators to sign a contract that removes your right to give a negative review in order to access the playtest
@viking@infosec.pub avatar

It says not to leave “subjective bad reviews”. As in, objectively bad is fine.

Damaskox,
@Damaskox@lemmy.world avatar

Care to clarify what is objectively bad? Like, an example

viking,
@viking@infosec.pub avatar

In the context of a game, let’s say a clearly outdated graphics engine that everyone can agree on looks very dated. Or game-stopping bugs. Constant crashes. Etc.

GoosLife,

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  • Kolanaki,
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    Graphics aren’t the same as aesthetics.

    The graphics can be objectively bad in so far as the technology used may be out dated, less sophisticated, or slower than other implementations.

    Aesthetics (how everything looks) are subjective.

    Guest_User,

    Game kills all life on earth when starting

    Konraddo,

    My understanding is that Digital Foundry type of performance review is fine, but comments on how the control feels laggy or the game is a lower-tier copycat of Overwatch are not okay.

    Kolanaki,
    !deleted6508 avatar

    It also says you can’t compare it to other games “maliciously.” What the fuck does that even mean?

    “Marvel Rivals is just as bad as Cyberpunk 2077 at launch.”

    ???

    xavier666,

    We just have a give a positive spin

    “The game is really good at sucking”

    “This game would definitely win an honorary award for ‘Games I don’t Care About’”

    “This Christmas I would gift the game to all my cousins whom I hate”

    tegs_terry,

    Good whom.

    MIDItheKID,

    It’s going to be relentlessly compared to OverWatch. It’s basically an OverWatch clone with Marvel characters.

    Kolanaki,
    !deleted6508 avatar

    Oh my bad.

    “It’s just as bad as OverWatch 2.”

    ICastFist,
    @ICastFist@programming.dev avatar

    Not being able to make satirical comments about any game-related material would mean nobody could say something like, “Controlling Iron Man feels like fighting Jarvis for control of the suit”, or “Storm is as effective as a light breeze”

    JoMiran, do games w Marvels Rivals requires creators to sign a contract that removes your right to give a negative review in order to access the playtest
    @JoMiran@lemmy.ml avatar
    simple,

    Thanks for the link, just posted it.

    fosho,

    these ass hats know what they are risking. they just plan for a “sorry we got caught” apology ready if needed in the hopes that they get away with it.

    JoMiran, (edited )
    @JoMiran@lemmy.ml avatar

    You might be right. This might not have been a mistake. Some creators in the Twitter thread said that they brought it up ahead of time but the company sent those agreements out as is anyway.

    Skates, do games w Marvels Rivals requires creators to sign a contract that removes your right to give a negative review in order to access the playtest

    Oh, you want only good reviews? It’d be a shame if people reviewed your game like “I apologize, I have nothing to say - I am under contract to say nothing bad about the game, and I have nothing good to say about it either.”

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