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Asafum, do gaming w Why video games exist after all?

Providing entertainment is useful value. How many thousands and thousands of years back do you need to look to finally hit a point where there is absolutely no evidence of some form of entertainment being “produced.”

Hell there are even animal bone “flutes” for making music going back to like the neanderthals or something like that.

We need to stop with this “if it doesn’t lead to making money it has no place in society” nonsense.

Edit: I think you can actually see the divergence between extracting value from games (AAA devs absolutely ruining their reputation seeking profit over entertainment) and creating entertaining games.

bjoern_tantau, do gaming w Why video games exist after all?
@bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de avatar

All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy.

dontgooglefinderscult, do gaming w Why video games exist after all?

The same reason the literal entirety of society exists. After we completely figured out food, water, and shelter, we got bored. We stopped being at risk of famine 10k years ago, we pretty quickly figured out fermentation and distillation makes water not kill us, and we figured out how to house everyone.

Then we kept just making that faster and easier to accomplish.

Well what do we do with all that free time? Fuck play games, do some entertainment, kill other people over petty nonsense, create pointless class based societies that generate artificial scarcity simply because a few people are greedy and most are too trusting of those greedy people, enrich out lives through momentary joy.

So in the dark ages of computing this tradition was continued and a very smart, highly paid scientist in charge of tens of millions of dollars of equipment made some of that equipment play table tennis.

A few decades and massive corporate funding of naive over enthusiastic nerds with much cheaper but more powerful equipment later and we have video games instead of going to the pub to play dice or doing a war…

rayquetzalcoatl, do gaming w Why video games exist after all?
@rayquetzalcoatl@lemmy.world avatar

providing entertainment to the user

LambdaRX, do gaming w Why video games exist after all?
@LambdaRX@sh.itjust.works avatar

Entertainment is crucial for mental health.

KillerTofu, do gaming w Why video games exist after all?

Ask the same about any other art like music, paintings, sculptures. What useful value do they have other than entertainment?

jordanlund,
@jordanlund@lemmy.world avatar

Artistic expression. Whether anyone is entertained by it is a byproduct. :)

KillerTofu,

And can the same not be said about interactive media like video games?

jordanlund,
@jordanlund@lemmy.world avatar

Absolutely. It’s a matter of artistic expression.

Nobody was REALLY entertained by “Irritating Stick”, but the creators expressed themselves.

youtu.be/Xagp0JhvCY0

AreaKode, do gaming w Why video games exist after all?

I believe you just answered your own question. Sometimes people just want to have fun.

NegativeLookBehind,
@NegativeLookBehind@lemmy.world avatar

How dare they

bjoern_tantau,
@bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de avatar

But using video games for recreational purposes was outlawed!

RightHandOfIkaros, do gaming w Breath of the Wild / Tears of the Kingdom for Xbox?

I dont think.any Switch emulators run on the Xbox platform. The Xbox is obviously powerful enough, but none of the emulators are ported to the console.

irish_link, do gaming w Breath of the Wild / Tears of the Kingdom for Xbox?

Unfortunately not really. It’s not powerful enough.

However you can tune your Xbox into dev mode and install retroarch and try it.

If this link doesn’t work just google retroarch Xbox.

www.maketecheasier.com/install-retroarch-xbox/

jordanlund, do gaming w Will the Nintendo Switch become the best-selling console ever?
@jordanlund@lemmy.world avatar

McDonalds has sold more hamburgers than anyone else, all it means is kids have no taste. ;)

BRINGit34, do gaming w What game of the 2020s do you think that will top the "best games of the decade" lists in 2030?
@BRINGit34@lemmygrad.ml avatar

Disco Elysium. I mean it came out in 2019. But it still counts

apotheotic, do gaming w What game of the 2020s do you think that will top the "best games of the decade" lists in 2030?

I hope disco elysium and tunic are both in the rankings, because they’re probably two of the most perfectly crafted experiences in the last 20 or 30 years, never mind just 1 decade.

zod000, do gaming w What game of the 2020s do you think that will top the "best games of the decade" lists in 2030?

I’m shocked that BoTW was considered the top game of the 2010s. I felt BoTW was mediocre over all on top of not feeling like a Zelda game at all. As far as open world games, I felt that Horizon: Zero Dawn was more compelling in both gameplay and story and I’m still not sure I’d rank it as a top game of the decade.

Wahots,
@Wahots@pawb.social avatar

Botw was good, but I wouldn’t put it anywhere near game of the decade. Divinity 2, Subnautica, Skyrim and its DLC, Hollow Knight, Death Stranding, Doom 2016, HLA, Ori and the Blind Forest, as well as a number of smaller games and ones I’m probably forgetting.

zod000,

Your list of games would definitely rank higher for me as well (assuming Divinity 2 means Divinity: Original Sin 2). I’m sure there are a ton of games in there I’ve forgotten that would also quality.

Wahots,
@Wahots@pawb.social avatar

Yeah, Original sin! There have been a ton of solid games throughout the 10s.

Jax,

BotW completely changed the open world landscape. Yes it was a bad Zelda game, it was by no means a mediocre game. That first experience is fucking magical, and has been recreated to great effect in Elden Ring and Genshin Impact (I shouldn’t need to point out how popular both of those games are).

You can dislike that it was a bad Zelda game. Calling it mediocre is just patently false. Granted, yes - I’ve called the game ‘Horizon: Zero Awards’ because it definitely should have won at least something. It was not more impactful than BotW.

zod000,

Fine, let’s go with BotW was a bad Zelda game and I strongly disliked it. I tried to like it and played all the way through because I was stubborn, but in the end I think it sucked as did my friends (they all quit long before I did). I wish I hadn’t bought it or spent time in it.

Also, I disagree that it changed the open world landscape. H:ZD released before BoTW did, did the open world stuff better (IMO), and still doesn’t seem like it was radically novel at the time other than the story/setting. The only truly novel thing about BotW was that it was open world in a Zelda game.

Jax,

All I have to say is that I sincerely doubt that From Software and MiHoYo were looking at H:ZD when they made their very successful games. That’s my only point, you are allowed to have your opinions about H:ZD - I’m not saying that you’re wrong.

KingThrillgore, do gaming w What game of the 2020s do you think that will top the "best games of the decade" lists in 2030?
@KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml avatar

Elden Ring

onlooker, do gaming w What game of the 2020s do you think that will top the "best games of the decade" lists in 2030?
@onlooker@lemmy.ml avatar

We still have about 6 years to go, but it’s obviously going to be Gollum.

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