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unknown1234_5, do games w What is your favorite Metroidvania?
@unknown1234_5@kbin.earth avatar

carrion is a reverse horror game where you play as the monster

myfavouritename, do gaming w a Landscape of Knowledge Games

Lots of folks talking about the diagram. And for good reason. It’s a good diagram full of good games.

But I want to draw folks attention to the linked article. It’s well written and I enjoyed it.

prole, do gaming w a Landscape of Knowledge Games

Give me more games like Animal Well, please.

Lojcs, do gaming w a Landscape of Knowledge Games

Does the witness not qualify?

brognak,

Ooo, I think it would be:

  • Incremental Deduction
  • Adventure
  • (maybe?) Language and Translation
webghost0101, do gaming w a Landscape of Knowledge Games

Not enough learn action adventure games to my liking.

Definitely checking every single one of these though.

nekusoul,
@nekusoul@lemmy.nekusoul.de avatar

Agree. Outer Wilds is my favorite game and all the others in that section aren’t far behind.

That is, except for Ultros, which is a game I’ve heard about before but didn’t know it belonged in this category of games. I guess I know what I have to check out next.

SPRUNT, do gaming w Waka waka

We don’t kink-shame here.

hperrin, do games w Valve's new hardware will NOT be loss leaders

Even if they sell at cost, they’re losing money because of the R&D costs.

Nilz,

…But then in turn they’ll earn money with Steam sales, so they’ll be earning money.

hperrin,

Yes, but that’s a different sale. My point is it can still be considered a loss leader if they sell it at cost. It took them many millions to develop it, so overall they would be losing money on the hardware sales.

That’s as opposed to something like Costco’s hot dogs. There was no R&D there, so if they sold it at cost, I wouldn’t consider it a loss leader.

AppleTea, (edited )

Ok, but R&D on a given product eventually stops. Over the lifetime of a good, it becomes a smaller and smaller proportion of overall cost.

So, for the first unit you ship, the cost is materials + logistics + labor + R&D.

But for the 1,000 unit you ship, the cost is materials + logistics + labor + (R&D/1,000)

SpicyTaint, do games w Valve's new hardware will NOT be loss leaders

What the hell is a “loss leader”?

wirelesswire,

An item that is sold to you at a loss in hopes that you buy more profitable stuff from them to make up for said loss. Game consoles are usually sold at a loss in order to get people into their ecosystems, so they can buy things like games and subscription services, which are more profitable.

rafoix,

When a business sells something at a lower price than it costs for the purpose of attracting more customers.

Another example is Costco rotisserie chicken.

ryathal,

A product sold at a loss to attract customers who hopefully buy other products with higher margins that result in a net profit for the retailer.

captain_aggravated,
@captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works avatar

Gilette gives away razor handles to men to encourage them to buy their blades.

Inkjet printers are often cheaper than a change of ink cartridges.

I think it was Standard Oil, gave away hurricane lanterns in order to sell kerosene.

Most video game consoles are sold for less than they cost to make because the company expects to earn more in video game sales.

tal, do games w Valve's new hardware will NOT be loss leaders

I actually think that, while it’s maybe a fun topic for idle conversation…it doesn’t have a huge impact in the way traditional console pricing normally does.

With a traditional console, what the console vendor chooses to do on hardware is what you get. Maybe, as with Microsoft on the Xbox Series X/Series S, you get a high and low end model, but that’s as much choice as you get. All the games are made for that hardware, and whether the platform lives and dies depends on it.

But…that’s not really true of the Steam Machine. It’s just another PC, albeit preconfigured for Steam and HTPC-oriented. If you want to get a lower-end PC or a higher-end PC, you have the option of getting one and plugging it into a TV and running the same games on it and save some money or with a bit more visual bling. The games for PCs are already more or less written to scale up and down with hardware.

And it’s not like Valve’s platform is gonna live or die based on the Steam Machine the way a traditional console generation is, where success of a hardware console is high-stakes for the manufacturer and the players in successfully getting a game library going. I’d guess that it might help Valve make strategic inroads into gaming in the living room. But even if it completely bombs, Valve is gonna keep right on selling games to people to run on PCs (and the Deck) and their huge game library isn’t going anywhere.

ryathal,

I think comparing it to a console is the wrong mindset. It’s a computer first that can also be a console. It’s also a pre built Linux based computer you can have a higher degree of confidence that things just work even after updates. It’s a legitimate competitor for a new windows PC as much as it is a console competitor.

imetators, do gaming w Don't make me choose!

3 is extremely cool and all, epecially for what NES can output. But SMW has an insane mechanics with higher skill ceiling. Speaking as a player who haven’t played any of these two but watched some pros/speedrunners play them.

bridgeenjoyer,

There’s people alive who haven’t played these??

TIL

buttnugget,

Probably going to be more common as we get further out. People who were born in the 2000s are technically adults now.

xiao, do astronomy w I made a custom TRMNL plugin to tell me whether it’s worth taking the telescope up!
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Nice

anakin78z, do games w Baldurs Gate 3 - spoilers
@anakin78z@lemmy.world avatar

Lucky you 😂

TheAsianDonKnots, do games w Baldurs Gate 3 - spoilers

Oh darn, I guess you’re going to have to start over :) . Changing class (even subclass) makes the game very replayable and as you’ve noticed, it’s easy to miss things on your first play-through.

ragingHungryPanda,

yeah this run I’m doing druid, which I never played. Id like to try an old ranger/fighter build I did once

baronvonj, do games w Baldurs Gate 3 - spoilers
@baronvonj@lemmy.world avatar

Shame. He has a great reaction one of your options with a spider in the Guantlet of Shar.

4grams, do gaming w Don't make me choose!

Tough choice but I’m reluctantly picking World. It’s probably because as a kid I had a NES, but never a SNES, so all my SMW play was at friends or the demo kiosk at the store.

Not until I was a 20something when I traded a used motherboard for an old SNES and played the shit out of it.

ivanafterall,
@ivanafterall@lemmy.world avatar

The Best Buy demo kiosks added an absurd amount of shine to unworthy consoles. I’m still waiting on my $800 3D0. It can’t suck if it’s that expensive!? I played the Road Rash demo, mind you!

4grams,

Sears is the one I remember using the most. My parents would let me hang out in the all but abandoned video game section while they bought a lawnmower, some pants or maybe a frying pan.

ivanafterall,
@ivanafterall@lemmy.world avatar

I definitely remember the lawnmowers. The pants. The apparently orgasmic tools. But I don’t think mine had a kiosk. Honestly, I probably spent more time at neck-breaking Walmart kiosks than at any other.

4grams,

That one was my favorite because I don’t think many knew it was there, the section was always empty, and in the years they had it, the thing kept working unlike all the other stores…

ivanafterall,
@ivanafterall@lemmy.world avatar

Ah, yes, the pain of having the “IS MY TURN!” talk with a terrible child you’ve never met.

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