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Quetzalcutlass, do games w What game sequel ruined a beloved franchise or character for you?

StarCraft and Brood War were amazing, but the writing quality took a nosedive in the sequel. StarCraft 2 felt like poorly written fanfiction that didn’t understand the existing characters or their motivations at all.

BreadstickNinja,

Completely agree. The whole tone and setting changed. SC:BW went for gritty realism. Obviously, there’s a suspension of disbelief when you’ve got psionic aliens, but it felt like three scrappy factions barely surviving in the endless dark of space.

SC2 went full Warcraft. Ancient gods, portals to other worlds, all the same kitschy fantasy elements that are fine in the campy context of WC but really clashed with the established character of the SC universe. I get that they wanted to raise the stakes in the sequel, but I really disagreed with how they went about it.

And Kerrigan should have stayed evil. That’s my “Han shot first” of the franchise.

Quetzalcutlass,

And Kerrigan should have stayed evil. That’s my “Han shot first” of the franchise.

Agreed 100%, how Kerrigan was handled was the worst of StarCraft 2’s many sins against prior characterization. They spent an entire expansion setting her up as an irredeemable monster and the new big bad of the setting alongside Mengsk and whatever Duran was up to, only to undo it all because NuBlizzard wanted their waifu.

And there is no way Jim Raynor as of the end of Brood War would ever ally with Kerrigan again after her betrayal, yet he goes from having sworn to get revenge for Fenix’s death to helping Kerrigan “redeem” herself with little more than a mention of past grievances.

BreadstickNinja,

Maybe Jim was just in a really good mood after all his hair spontaneously grew back. /s

gonzo-rand19, do games w What game sequel ruined a beloved franchise or character for you?
@gonzo-rand19@moist.catsweat.com avatar

I'm going to say The Last of Us 2. I loved the first one so much, and then 2 was not what I wanted or was expecting, which completely killed any love I had for it and any desire for a larger franchise.

I was hoping for an anthology series where each game focused on a different group of people in the same universe. I loved Joel and Ellie, but I wanted their story to be over and to get a look at how other people had dealt with things.

missingno, do games w Gamers have you ever been in a game competition or something similar?
@missingno@fedia.io avatar

I travel to Combo Breaker every year and enter a whole bunch of games. This year I was able to up my travel budget for both CB and Frosty Faustings. Some of them are games I consider myself decent at, some of them are games I just hop in casually for fun. And then there's the Mystery Bracket, where every round is something you've probably never heard of and the goal is to figure out what's happening before your opponent does - it's the highlight every year. Back in 2022, I even TO'd and commentated the side tournament for Puyo Puyo Champions, and I got roped into filling in on commentary for Panel de Pon.

In a double elimination bracket, 25% of players will go 0-2. If this is your first time entering, you should expect to be one of them. And you shouldn't let that stop you from going to have a good time! Majors are basically conventions that happen to have brackets at them, and that bracket will only be a small fraction of your time all weekend. Get as many casual sets in as you can before/after bracket, check out the arcade room, buy some trinkets with your favorite characters on them from the artist alley, watch finals, go out to dinner with rivals you'd only ever spoken to online before and finally get to meet in person. Oh, and come to the mahjong tables where you'll find me promoting this strangely unexpected venn diagram intersection.

And that's just what majors are like. If you have any kind of local FGC, go to your locals! Don't just sit at home playing ranked, get out of the house and meet people!

emb,

100% agree! I used to go to Smash locals on the regular, and it’s so much more welcoming than I thought it would be at first.

There’s no expectation for any skill level, just show up ready to learn and people will mostly encourage you and help.

Carnelian, do games w Recommendations for games to play on a treadmill (i.e. not too intense)

Sounds like the Fire Emblem games would be perfect for this!

emb,

Agreed! There are several good ones on 3DS.

Advance Wars is also a great option - you can play a couple of them on 3DS with back-compatibility. Or, of the pocket can play GBA, there’s those.

And there are some PC games out there (although much more recent than 2005) that are in similar genres, like WarGroove or Dark Deity.

ArsonButCute, do games w what video game deserves to be in a museum?

All of them.

Art is art is art.

ChaoticNeutralCzech,
@ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.org avatar

All glory to Hareraiser!

ArsonButCute,

Bad art is still art

oplkill,

Even stolen art still art

christian,
@christian@lemmy.ml avatar

I clicked your link not expecting to watch more than thirty seconds but watched the full thing, that was a great lecture.

otp,

Not every single piece of art goes into a museum

Mister_Feeny, do games w Robocop: Rouge City

"Rouge" City.

You're a little quick to be pointing fingers about spelling, OP.

bognus,

Almost as if it was intentional or something, huh.

Kolanaki,
@Kolanaki@pawb.social avatar

It’s rouge becauwe of all the bad guy blood.

Quicky,

Clearly I need to signpost my jokes better.

Lucky_777,

That’s at least 65% of the comedy here.

RightHandOfIkaros, do games w I feel these companies stole my money by delisting game, and I'm sure others feel the same. Nobody is sure if the EU will get the law passed. So it got me thinking -- why not revive games together?

Your money wasn’t stolen if a game was de-listed. If you already paid for the game, you can still download it. De-listed just means that people who don’t already have it in their library cannot purchase it anymore. That’s not theft.

pathos,

Sorry, I meant ‘removed’ and all other forms of it.

missingno, do games w RPGs that are optionally pacifist?
@missingno@fedia.io avatar

Live a Live's Twilight of Edo Japan chapter gives a special completion reward if you complete it with zero kills, or a full 100 kills. It's designed in such a way that figuring out how to do the pacifist run is a puzzle you are unlikely to solve on your first playthrough.

This mechanic was actually one of the inspirations for Undertale!

nore,

As far as I know this mechanic wasn’t in the original SNES game, only in the remake.

missingno,
@missingno@fedia.io avatar

It is in the original. For the most part, 2022 is very faithful to the original and doesn't feature any big structural changes (apart from one new thing that's a big spoiler), mostly just balance and quality of life improvements.

Like I said, Toby Fox openly cited this segment as an inspiration for Undertale (2015), and that came before the 2022 remake.

RagingRobot, do games w First they came for steam, then they came for itch.io .

Why are they doing a comprehensive audit on the content and not doing a comprehensive audit on new payment providers? I sure would be

brucethemoose,

Because they would basically die off without the credit card processors, I assume.

RagingRobot,

Yeah so they should shop around now that theirs seems to be problematic

brucethemoose,

What I meant is that simply excluding Mastercard and Visa would turn away tons of sales and donations, even if they worked with every other payment processor on the planet at once.

They… could. But it would hurt, maybe even kill Itch.

Spoomis, do games w First they came for steam, then they came for itch.io .

My biggest issue with this situation is: if they can get away with getting games they don’t like being delisted, where does it end? Delisting books with themes or authors they don’t like? Banning the sale of alcohol and cigarettes?

DegenerationIP,
@DegenerationIP@lemmy.world avatar

Honestly haven’t thought so far. But Media lacks that, as almost everything is clickbait.

And you got a point. There is questionable stuff. But killing off a whole area is like a bit shot on a small bird

Atomic, do games w Does anyone else find it suspicious that there wasn't any criticism on here about Stop Killing Games until after it hit 1.4M signatures?

Attention work both ways.

People who were not aware, now are. From all sides.

KoboldCoterie, do games w What are the best free mmorpgs for a beginner?
@KoboldCoterie@pawb.social avatar

If you enjoy the old school vibe, City of Heroes has been revived through a community effort, and is free with all of the original content plus some new stuff. This has been given official blessing so it’s not going to disappear suddenly.

RightHandOfIkaros, do games w Does anyone else find it suspicious that there wasn't any criticism on here about Stop Killing Games until after it hit 1.4M signatures?

Lemmy is way too small and insignificant for Industry Plants to be posting on here about SKG, if that is what you are implying.

Doomsider,

Lol you are funny. Propaganda doesn’t come here!

Industry shills will show up on a obscure message board that only a handful of people have ever seen. They are everywhere, they are here.

Tangent5280,

It’s so stupid to think that small message boards are spared; small boards are where they infest with the most enthusiasm; you infiltrate a hundred small boards, one grows into the mainstream and now you have a socmed in your control.

Airowird,

Not only that, you then link to that enthousiastic small board on the big one, as “unbiased source”

daniskarma,

People have opinions. No everyone disagreeing with one opinion or other is a paid actor.

I’m all for SKG. I signed it. And I haven’t actually seen much criticism at all here. But if someone were to disagree I won’t automatically think it’s a paid actor, probably just a person with an opinion.

descartador,

The smaller a community is, the more influence you have. Propaganda here is much more effective than on Reddit

Cornelius_Wangenheim,

Lemmy has 100k users and, more importantly, almost zero countermeasures against botting and influence ops. It would not be some huge undertaking to target this place.

knokelmaat, do gaming w Steam is cracking down on porn games, to keep Payment Processors happy.

I am the only one here thinking that Steam should have cracked down on incest themed porn games a long time ago?

Just to be clear, the title of this post is referring to porn games, but in actuality it is about games that literally feature incest (not the step-relative stuff that is so popular everywhere online). All major actual porn sites have rules against incest, but the biggest gaming marketplace on PC should allow it?

Just to make it clear, I find it detestable that this is done because of Visa, especially if this trend continues and suddenly other stuff becomes blocked, but in this case I feel it should have been done way earlier.

Faydaikin, (edited )
@Faydaikin@beehaw.org avatar

I’d hope it only refers to actual porn games. Would hate to see a game like RDR2 taken down because there’s a heavily implied incestuous relationship in the game.

kbobabob,

but in actuality it is about games that literally feature incest

A couple of things:

  1. So what? There’s probably all kinds of things out there you didn’t agree with.
  2. This is where they start. First they came for…
FairycorePhoebe,

I guess I don’t see an ethical difference between fictional “step” incest and fictional normal incest. In both cases it involves people that don’t exist. Plus all the ethical issues with incest carry over to step siblings anyway. The idea that one is ok and the other isn’t seems really silly to me.

AFallingAnvil, do games w Day 364 of posting a Daily Screenshot from the games I've been playing
@AFallingAnvil@lemmy.ca avatar

Just wanted to say it’s impressive as hell that you kept this up so long, I’ve enjoyed following along where I can and offering my two cents :)

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