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chronicledmonocle, do games w What games are just objective masterpieces?

There is no “objective” when talking about subjective terms.

My personal, SUBJECTIVE favorites are Mass Effect, Titanfall 2, Subnautica, Stardew Valley, Ori and the Blind Forest, Dave the Diver, Balatro, and Portal 1 and 2

LandedGentry, (edited ) do games w What games are just objective masterpieces?

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  • CatZoomies,
    @CatZoomies@lemmy.world avatar

    +1 for Beyond Good & Evil.

    For those unfamiliar with this game, this was early 2000s Ubisoft when they used to be creative, celebrated, and original.

    hungprocess, do games w Catchiest video game song?
    @hungprocess@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

    NA NANANA NANAANANA NA KATAMARI DAMACY

    Dreaming_Novaling,

    Man the soundtrack alone could get me to play Katamari games. I got a birthday gift card recently and was deciding what game to get, when one of the OSTs came up on YT Music and I listened to it for like a week straight. Immediately got We ❤️ Katamari + DLC on 80% sale.

    Could scream that shit in my car honestly.

    rabber,

    I recently obtained a unicorn of a CRT and have been replaying this

    Dremor, do games w Games have to cost $80! Meanwhile focus £35 oh sure have the DLC for £1 you have the other game
    @Dremor@lemmy.world avatar

    And then you have Clair Obscure: Expedition 33, an AA indy gem that goes for what, 50€ ?

    80€ games are a symptom of the marketing cancer that plagues modern AAA games. No need for a 1000 person team, what they need is passion for the medium, and a dedicated team that isn’t impeded by executive greed.

    echodot,

    One of the most obvious signs of this is the fact that EA had a small team of about 10 people who made one of the best Star wars games that have been released in years. Of course it’s EA, so they screwed it up by shutting the servers down eventually but still, much better than Battlefront II

    Roopappy, do gaming w What the fuck do I do now
    1. Guess
    2. Say “dammit”
    UltraGiGaGigantic, do gaming w ADHD gaming
    @UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml avatar

    I’m interested in playing. I am just so fucking exhausted from all my jobs and the loading screen is where I go through all the stages of grief until I accept i am to tired to do the one thing that brings me joy in life.

    Then I go to bed and my daily torture session begin anew.

    9point6, do gaming w What the fuck do I do now

    Time to find out your luck stat for the day

    jjjalljs, do games w I'm a console gamer so, Why the hate on the Epic Games Store?

    I bought a couple games on epic when they were cheaper. I don’t think I’d do so again.

    • the client isn’t as good. It’s slower, the way it paginates your games (I got a lot of free ones) is annoying. It really wants to show you store stuff
    • less (zero?) Linux support
    • don’t think it does the game recording steam does
    • I don’t think it has the remote play together steam does

    There’s probably other stuff I’m not thinking of. It’s just not as good a service.

    yggstyle, do games w Will all these multiplayer games being released without support for LAN or hosting our own servers no longer be multiplayer when the company shuts down the servers?

    Meanwhile StarCraft, one of the most pervasive rts for its time and in the PC gaming sphere in general … let you have multiple people play multiplayer on a single disk. Offline. It’s kinda like it advertised itself and people went out to buy it… which influenced more people… who bought it… gasp.

    Mindblowing.

    Yermaw,

    Legend has it the original Worms was similar. The DRM was a notepad readme that basically said “share me with your friends but buy a copy if you really like it please”

    yggstyle,

    mmmm banana bombs, holy hand grenades, and those cursed shopping levels * shudder *

    very_well_lost,

    And it still has a thriving competitive scene more than 25 years later.

    In fact, ASL (the biggest SC tournament) is going on right now!

    yggstyle,

    Funny how that works. ;)

    Barthosw, do games w Would you like to see a mainline Pokemon game created in the old style?

    Just go play pokemon unbound. It’s better than anything nintendo would come up with.

    Yokozuna,
    @Yokozuna@lemmy.world avatar

    Wow I had no idea this was a thing and it looks A M A Z I N G. Thanks for mentioning it!

    Zoomboingding,
    @Zoomboingding@lemmy.world avatar

    Yup. Fan projects and indie games can fill this niche. Pokemon is the most profitable media franchise EVER. They should be innovating and improving, not chasing nostalgia.

    Elevator7009,

    In general, Pokémon ROM hacks are cool and fans of the 2D or old game style like me should definitely give these more attention.

    SwampYankee, do games w Cities Skylines 2, Kerbal Space 2, Planet Coaster 2, Frostpunk 2... What Went Wrong?

    KSP2 is a unique situation, there are no improvements coming because the studio was shut down. I’m not sure the others belong alongside it. I have the most experience with CS2 and I can say confidently, even at launch, it was better than the original in a lot of ways. It was buggy and unoptimized, and lacked content, and it deserved the criticism it got for those reasons. Since then, most of the bugs have been ironed out, performance is way better, and they’ve released a bunch of content packs, several of the most substantial ones for free. Even at launch, I never wanted to go back to CS1 just because of how much better the road tools are. Now? No contest. CS2 is a great city builder.

    On the one hand, I’m glad for the pressure that people with less patience than I have are applying to these companies to release their games in a better state. On the other, I think there’s a lot of unwarranted criticism and vitriol that goes along with it that’s disappointing to see.

    setsneedtofeed, do games w Please suggest good progression based multiplayer games
    @setsneedtofeed@lemmy.world avatar

    Deep Rock Galactic.

    There is a huge amount of loadout progression for each class, and a seemingly infinite amount of cosmetics to acquire. While there are only a limited number of mission types, the randomized nature of the level population and all of the various modifiers and enemy types that have been added keeps the game fresh. The game is entirely co-op with no PVP element, which keeps the tone more focused on helping other players instead of ever seeing them as competition.

    SmoothOperator, do games w Useless rant about Witcher 3 romance

    Sometimes you think you say the right thing, but you didn’t, and you’ll have to live with the consequences. This is a major part of the Witcher games, that your actions have possibly unforeseen consequences that you’ll have to live with.

    Accept that Triss has made her choice. If you don’t want to be with Yen, then don’t be with anyone, that’s completely fine.

    who, do games w Does the 2 hour refund limit on Steam affect game design?

    IMHO, two hours is not nearly enough to get a feel for a game. At least, not for the sorts of games I tend to play. I spend longer than that just working through initial technical issues, configuration, and (in games that have one) the character generator.

    I have to conclude that Steam’s return window is either intended to be just enough to see if you can get it running, or as much as Valve could talk publishers into tolerating.

    dumblederp,
    @dumblederp@aussie.zone avatar

    I got stuck with COD6 because of that shit. It’s a boring game and it wasn’t cheap.

    Kolanaki,
    @Kolanaki@pawb.social avatar

    Dragon’s Dogma 2 for me.

    shneancy,

    imo the 2h refund window is not so you can judge if you’ll like the game, it’s so you can judge if you can tolerate it long enough to form an informed opinion

    there’s been a few games i played under 2h of and thought to myself “this is terrible, i’m not having fun and i actively dislike playing this”, Steam’s no questions asked refund was a cure for regret i’d have felt if i had to see that game in my library forever. Games that i know take much longer to judge i borrow from a friend who’s into fitness and a girl, that’s what saved me from buying Starfield or Avowed

    warm,

    I use the the refund window to see if a game is using deferred rendering, if it is, instant refund.

    Katana314,

    Two hours is the length of some high-budget media; eg, movies and plays.

    I know that some games are slow-burn, but that’s something people have to weigh themselves. Ideally, you’d enjoy the slow burn itself. When I tried to “force myself through to the Good Part of Nier Automata”, I ended up hating the whole thing.

    ampersandrew, do games w Video game genre communities on the Threadiverse
    @ampersandrew@lemmy.world avatar

    I think a lot of these are going to be placeholder for a while until more generalized communities like this one see more growth. It’ll be a while before we even hit 100k subscribers here, and you need to have a subset of those people who are looking to talk about an even more specific interest in more depth.

    Agent_Karyo,
    @Agent_Karyo@lemmy.world avatar

    I think the bigger deal is Lemmy/Threadiverse getting 100K MAU and seeing steady growth beyond that. We are currently at around ~50-55K MAU.

    Subs are a deceptive metric, MAUs are far more important.

    ampersandrew,
    @ampersandrew@lemmy.world avatar

    Oh, things are trending in the right direction, but we’re still a long ways away from needing smaller sub communities.

    Agent_Karyo,
    @Agent_Karyo@lemmy.world avatar

    In principle I agree with you, but it’s also a “chicken and egg” type problem. Many people aren’t going to switch to Lemmy if there isn’t a modicum of coverage for more specialized topics.

    I think getting to somewhere beyond 100K MAU will have a transformative effective on activity in some more specialized communities.

    Elevator7009,

    On one hand I understand this, but on the other hand I’d like to post games I find that fit these subgenres or talk about that subgenre without making myself the biggest spammer in !games, and I think (time will tell!) I do have the stubbornness necessary to scream into the void until people come along. Maybe I should crosspost the ones I think are most likely to have mass appeal…

    ampersandrew,
    @ampersandrew@lemmy.world avatar

    I wish you the best of luck. I don’t know what that threshold is where the smaller communities make sense, but for me, we haven’t met it yet.

    Elevator7009,

    I feel if I spontaneously quit all my niche gaming communities and posted everything I’d post there on a general community instead, I’d annoy everyone with a bunch of Steam links for games they probably do not care about. People in the niche communities are more likely to care about a link to a game in a genre they already like. Also, for most of the small communities I’ve got at least one other poster sometimes, and that’s better than nobody! Despite all the trouble with incremental.social and federation, when I can get on there we do have a few regulars chatting there and that’s nice.

    contains gender politicsThere’s also just fans of a certain genre being used to backlash from the wider gaming community. I did get mostly upvotes when I posted !otomegames, which is mostly romance visual novels for women who like men, to !newcommunities. I appreciate it. But I am not sure how posting these games to !games would go over, especially when I suspect Lemmy to be male-dominated. Visual novels already suffer from the “it’s all just hentai” stereotype. Now add the “media for women, especially romance media, is stupid and vapid and silly” prejudice. And even for those who just live and let live, I suspect most of the general !games community would be disinterested in otome game posts, which is fair because I’m disinterested in romance and/or sex visual novels aimed at men who want to date women (although they should definitely be allowed to exist and people should be allowed to like them in peace). So both to avoid any backlash, and to avoid annoying the wider community, I don’t want to post those games to this general community. I still want a space for it on Lemmy though, so I made that community. I have one other regular poster and sometimes people drop in and comment.

    You could make the argument that I’m simply posting low-quality content, and I’d just have to raise the bar for !games to accept my posts, and that I just want my niches back, to which I say: fair. But unfortunately I’m no video game expert or connoisseur. I play and enjoy. The lovely guide and wiki makers usually get there before I can. I’m not too good at coming up with fun discussion questions that are better than what I’d consider low-tier engagement bait back on Reddit like “name one good thing about [noncontroversial character]”. So link posts it is, better some on-topic content than none at all. And even if I did write a wonderful in-depth review or guide, if it’s not for some big mainstream appeal game but something that only genre enthusiasts really like, not sure how well !games would take to it. So that’s my rationale for having these niche communities. You’re still very free to think I’m wrong ;) Thanks for contributing in earnest to !games!

    Elevator7009,

    You’re probably right, but most of these do exist already, so I figure not why not continue trying to use them (and to direct attention from this big community there)? Also probably doesn’t help a lot of instances have general games communities. We’re pretty splintered. Now that I think about it I should probably crosspost to some of the bigger ones.

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