So you’re wanting to eliminate as many of these games as possible from your wishlist? The only ones I’ve played here are A Short Hike and Animal Well, and I can vouch for both of those being incredible.
A Short Hike is very charming. I had such a fun time playing through it one afternoon and finding all the little secrets. It has a lovely artstyle and is the perfect length.
Animal Well is simply a great metroidvania with some really unique items and beautiful pixel art. There’s some tricky platforming there if you want to get the collectables.
Sorry if that doesn’t really help with your conundrum, but if you want to cut down your wishlist I’d recommend keeping those ones!
I added it when I saw someone praise that the trans-flag shirt gives you extra damage with bricks. Last-minute addition and probably going in my “closer-scrutiny” pile along with Tiny Glade and Dollmare.
In case you’re wondering, the graph looks like this. There have currently been 16k new signatures today. The required pace to make it would be 10k a day. Yesterday the count increased by about 30k signatures.
TL;DR Keep spreading this to people you know, and keep signing. It’s working.
Until last week I thought it was done, but somehow it flipped around. Things are looking pretty good, with massive youtubers and streamers taöking about it.
I’m glad the ball is rolling again. This can change gaming and set a precedent for other things as well.
It flipped around because the founder of the movement, Ross, of AccursedFarms on youtube… released a video giving a status report…
And spending a good deal of the video explaining how Thor, PirateSoftware on youtube… has basically been making up bullshit and spreading nonsense about SKG for months now, actively campaigning against SKG, again, based almost entirely on him jumping to hysterical, catastrophic conclusions without factual basis
After that video… basically every single AngloSphere Gamer Youtuber has been putting out videos spreading the SKG messsge, and dogpiling on Thor for being a confused, overconfident narcissist… and Thor is now double triple quadrupling down with ‘im the real victim’ and other such tactics often employed by manipulative narcissists facing the revelation of their public persona as essentially entirely hypocritical.
EDIT: Also, as of right now, I’m seeing 723k…
Which is roughly +20k in only 6 hours from the time this OP was made.
EDIT 2:
If you’ve ever heard of, or seen the Freeman’s Mind series… yeah, that’s Ross, basically being Freeman’s internal monologue, and turning the entirety of Half Life into an action comedy bonanza.
He had more recently been attempting to get through all of HL2 this way as well, in addition to doing esoteric game reviews… untill he got so pissed about Ubisoft being able to just murder The Crew, and what is going on with all games in terms of consumer rights… that he started the SKG movement, and hasn’t had much time to work on his other stuff as much.
To be honest, neither did I… and I may have accidentally replied to the wrong comment, could have sworn someone was asking ‘why line go up so fast now’.
Probably not, I’m the one that’s hated and shunned and gaslit by the entire family because of how easily and often I point out that they are both hypocrites and objectively wrong about nearly every single political, economic or sociological idea they have.
But I do appreciate your validation, lol!
Yeah, got two bachelors degree’s simultaneously.
Managed to do it in 4 years + 1 summer quarter.
But uh yeah, I’m basically too knowledgeable for my own good, and the autism doesn’t help with dealing with abusive narcissist family members.
Oh well!
I ghosted them to the point they probably think I am actually dead.
I get accused of being a bot all the time now because I still enjoy writing long-form posts and, y'know, contributing what I can to the state of human knowledge, or what remains of it anyway. I can't blame people for being defensive about it. It's the AIs themselves I'm offended by, they're the ones doing wrong. We're all just trying to cope with the avalanche of unverified garbage they're putting out. It's digital pollution.
Yeah. I hear you there. Problem I usually have is that the odds of an accusation tend to scale less with posting style in my experience and more with level of disagreement, or whether or not the poster has personally witnessed something. Basically, “I didn’t see this with my own two eyes/dislike you, so this is obviously bot behavior.” It’s a conspiracy theorist-like attitude, and it’s predated LLMs entirely.
Nonetheless, I’m not happy that an entire new form of bot scrutiny has been introduced, and I absolutely cannot wait for GenAI/LLM hype to die the fuck down.
It’s an official EU citizens initiative, hosted on the EU web portal. The one maintained by the EU for the very purpose of digitally facilitating any and all citizens initiatives.
I get accused of being a bot all the time now because I still enjoy writing long-form posts
From cecilkorik, who I was replying to. That kind of bot accusation scarcely ever occurred before LLMs entered the picture. You posted too hastily here and missed a huge chunk of context.
Botting something like a citizens initiative, where every signature WILL get scrutinized by government would be seriously stupid. Or are you saying commenters like me are bots?
Is it really that hard for you to imagine the possibility… that people care?
Or are just not aware of the chain of youtubers doing a call to arms on this, getting millions of views, completely explaining the signature spike?
There is zero scrutiny possible for the form which is 100% based on trust that the signer is who they say they are adults where they say they are. If you want to be John Smith in UK, Paddy Murphy in Ireland and Jurgen Schmidt in Germany, you can be. There’s a reason none of these initiatives have done anything except keep people who care about something busy with dopamine graphing instead of doing something like boycotting relevant games and publishers.
And no, like to the EU, Youtuber noise is not relevant to me. Millions of views is literally nothing. You see the general state of the world, yes?
Right. Because caring about A means you can’t care about B. If you support legislation, you must be boycoting nothing, because no-one in the history of existence has ever done both.
You’re claiming mutual exclusivity where none exists.
You sound more like you’re scared of the implications of this passing, because you’d have us voting with out wallets rather than… actually voting. Nevermind that even games not worth buying should still also be preserved.
Pre-orders, micro-transactions and battle-passes are still a thing, no matter how much we’ve shouted about “big company bad”. This type of crap isn’t something we solve by any one method alone.
And you don’t need to engage with youtube or any other social media, to accept that the phenomenon they enable, occur. To dismiss that reality would be idiotic delusion.
Millions of views is a lot, when all you need to get started, is one of those millions to sign a petition.
I… What? Is that not a mutual exclusivity argument? For you to have a point, this time and effort would need to be better spent elsewhere. I not only disagree with that, but I have the time and energy to do the other things you are claiming will make a difference.
Man what the fuck are you talking about, it requires an EU, country specific verification document(s)/id(s), or the intraEU digital ID to verify you are an actual real person who lives where you say you do.
This is an official EU webportal for formal citizens initiatives petitions.
Like, ok, I guess you could just spam it with a bot/script, and then INTERPOL comes after you for fucking with an official government website, potentially hundreds or thousands of counts of attempted impersonation / identity theft and lying on a government/legal document.
Like sure, go do a DDOS on I dunno, whitehouse.gov, or your US’s state’s unemployment assistance application web portal.
Those are approximately equivalently stupid things to do.
OK buddy, cybercrime never happens and interpol will come arrest your python script if it did because you messed with an EU “government” form that might have resulted in them having to get a 60 year old Greek politican to ask what a EULA was
What happens if you try to just brute force guess at a bunch of possible credit card numbers and addresses and names in some kind of online store?
After maybe a couple of tries, 30 seconds or less of that… the system is rejecting your bullshit fake numbers everytime, and after enough, it auto ip bans you, sends an email to the security admin team, and your journey to getting a chat from INTERPOL or the FBI or what not has now officially begun.
This system doesn’t just accept any old random bullshit you give it.
It is not a random slapdash online poll.
Its only going to count up on that total signatures count if the system actually verifies the info you put in as being consistent with an actual, real, specific person in the system.
I again repeat: You are an idiot.
And I use idiot specifically: you are not only drastically misinformed, but determined, and seem to think very dangerous actions… are not dangerous… you think very unfeasible methods… are feasible.
Your idiot noises have no power over me, you contemptible boffin.
You aren’t worth explaining anything further to, such is the density of your thick skull, such is the extent of the gaping, cavernous void present in the part of your mind where relevant contextual information should be.
If you must pester me further, my server admin tutoring rate is $100 per hour, if you can’t afford the cost, just admit you’re lost.
What do you think the word boffin means? Do you mean buffoon? You should probably double-check your phrasing before quoting anime protagonists from memory
I think they will verify with the municipality of the person who signed whether they actually exist. Theoretically you could sign on someone you know this information for, but I think IP logging would burn you pretty quick if even one of those is bogus/duplicate.
Also, I don’t know whether such signatures would be counted before any verification would take place
I mean yeah, technically there will be some EU member states with different guidelines (due to different id/privacy laws) where maybe yes, a few of them could theoretically maybe be pumped up by a bot.
But uh, for some thing… you’d need a fairly well done bot net to even kind of pull that off for long.
As in like, a new and convincingly distinct bot/ip to burn for each signature, that is actually an ip that makes geo sense for the person/real world address it is spoofing…
As you say: basic ip logging.
If its all coming from… a single, or small number of ips… assuming the EU is at least as competent of a server admin as I am, yeah, that’s gonna look pretty fuckywucky in the logs, probably get noticed within 24 hours max.
And yes, I also seriously doubt there would not be some kind of verification of signees at at least some level, that would be initiated after all the thresholds are passed.
But its wildly innacurate to portray this as if… oh yeah any idiot vibe coder could just drill this up to whatever number after 30 minutes.
That was the way the internet worked back in 2006, or how stupid say Twitter polls are now.
Not the same level of inept incompetence going on with EU government websites.
That’s entirely backwards. I’ve boycotted these online kill-switched games pretty well, but that means fuck all because the general public is incapable of collectively caring about anything. Regulation on the other hand does have an effect, and should the initiative pass, EU is required to properly answer it.
Answering doesn’t mean doing anything, and all they have to do is generally wave in the direction of the overwhelming popularity and profitability of the products compared to the online petition that 0.2% of the EU’s adult population will have signed.
If the general public does not care, legislation will not follow. Filling out and promotinh a glorified change.org form is energy wasted on actually popularising your viewpoint instead of trying uselessly to get it in unpopularly.
Entirely discounting the fact that the EU has a track record of consumer friendly regulation. I agree, instead of doing what has the highest chance of success, let’s do nothing that could have an impact instead.
What on earth makes you think an online petition, which has never led to any of the consumer friendly regulation you mention, has the ‘highest’ chance? Or that the alternative to a petition is doing nothing?
All of that regulation came primarily from legal cases.
The fact that it isn’t just a petition, and if successful will put the issue before EU lawmakers. I’m presenting the alternative as doing nothing because you talked about voting with your wallet, and that is essentially doing nothing.
The reason I see this as having a higher chance of success than a legal case is the monetary limitation inherent to the latter. As far as I know there isn’t a big track record of successful ECI’s, so I would assume you’re basing your opinions on regular petitions. Correct me if I’m wrong.
No, I talked about putting this energy into convincing others to vote with their wallets, not just “doing nothing”. A boycott is an active campaign. It doesnt just mean not buying a product. It means not buying any associated product. Not even tolerating them in conversation.
I’m basing my opinion on how the commission has responded to similar successfully raised initiatives: “that’s already covered by legislation and up to EU states to manage”, “no that’s something we cant support, but feel free to appeal endlessly”, and in the most effective one, “committing to making a legislative proposal by 2023 but actually if thats ok we’ll make it 2026 and I suppose then if legislation is agreed it may be in place within a decade” (end cage farming, which polls at 86% approval already in the EU).
Yes, that’s what I was referring to; I didn’t mean you personally voting with your wallet, but in the broader sense. In my opinion there’s little chance of having success with this method in this field.
I’m not saying you’re wrong in basing your opinion on this, but I think the sample size is very small and not necessarily indicative of future results. I’m not saying the chances are sky-high either, but I think this is the best way forward, especially right now with the campaign having received a second wind.
If there are alternative roads to the same goal, I wouldn’t be against supporting those either. I believe this is the best we have right now, that’s why I’ve put it before friends, family etc. If you have a better idea, you should definitely do the same, but downplaying the potential of this campaign helps nobody but those in the games industry.
Citizens iniatives may be a form of petition, but the difference is they come with actual legal requirements.
This isn’t some change.org bs, a list of names totaling some arbitrary number. That’s why it has a hard deadline. And requirements for how signatures have to come from more than one country.
This is a pre-existing system for the people of the EU to force it to tackle an issue. Most EU countries have equivalent systems locally, as well. This isn’t new or unusual for us.
Legal precedent is how the US works. Where lawsuits catalyzing the setting of new standards for what is legal, is the most common way the law changes. If you thought that’s how EU legislation got done, then you have no fucking idea what you’re talking about. Almost everything the EU does, is based on proposals. Not legal cases.
Those can happen in the EU, too, but we have additional ways to propose law as citizens, and legal cases are more common on the national level, rather than the continental level.
If you can gather proof (signatures) of concern on a given issue, you can force a proposal through the door that normally has to come from elected representatives.
It does mean doing something: they have to spell out whether consumers should have rights on this or not. Currently it’s undefined, which is equivalent to “not.”
popularizing your viewpont
And the initiative works against that? You say the cause could have gotten more publicity without it? I really don’t see how that could happen, or understand the point in guilt tripping over it.
energy wasted
I’m starting to think this argument is energy wasted.
These are just the ones released this year. Next year there’ll be more. And there are games from last year I haven’t gotten to (and the classics on top of that). Leaving the list too big means I miss a lot of them and the ones I do play would be based on gut instinct.
Perhaps at this point there’s no better option than gut instinct, now that I’ve exhausted basically all other criteria. I guess there are more fundamental questions I should be asking myself about how to handle the post-scarcity world of art.
Yup. Personally now that I’m an adult and have Responsibilities, I spend less time playing games. I hardly even follow new games coming out, and just work on recommendations from friends, or stuff from developers whose games I’ve enjoyed in the past.
I’m into discovering those unexpected hidden gems, but I’m also into those recommendations and those Zachtronics or Bennett Foddy games. Combined with my limited time … I think I’m gonna have to “kill my darlings” … and of course I can’t even imagine doing that which is probably why I’m so stuck in life.
Are y’all trying to lure me to the dark side (i.e. hermit life)?
But Tactical Breach Wizards, I played the Next Fest demo and enjoyed it but removed it from my wishlist because they took down the demo. More than games that just never put out a demo, a game that puts one out and then consciously decides to take it down, those tend to be bad more often than not.
They put the demo back up so now it’s back on the list. Not a fan of complicated time-travel plots, I’ve been burnt before with them, but I’m intending to give it the benefit of the doubt.
It’s been a minute since I last played it, but the time travel is mostly just a story reason for the ability to undo moves in-game. The story is more character driven.
Specifically I don’t like how time travel can render all the events of the narrative mute, and also because I just can’t imagine beating a chronomancer in combat (and the antagonist is a chronomancer according to the marketing).
If it’s just a maximum of 10-seconds of time travel then that’d solve both those issues.
While I agree with you that it should be an option to turn it off, who is telling you that you need to send a full message if someone sees you were typing?
We’re the ones making the rules for this world full of technologies and we create the social rules for them daily with our own actions. Fuck that expectation, I’m sure other people can surmise what happened even if they noticed you were typing for just a second, they’re working with the same limited software.
Lol. The amount of times I’m actually typing something and then think “nahhhhh, not worth it” and delete the whole thing anyway I think my friends are all used to this 😅
I think the “typing” status is debounced to a few seconds only. You won’t appear to be typing if you stop actually typing. At least that’s how most messengers work that I use.
Unless they were looking, they wont have seen it. And as far as I know, just the cursor being active sends the “typing” indicator in some apps. When I see it for just a second I just assume someone hovered over the chatbox for a bit.
No-one thinks it’s weird for it to pop up for a second and then go away. Or for it to appear for a good while and still not get you a message. Sometimes I’ll write a first draft of a response right away, then leave it there for hours while I think about it some more, before finalizing it.
It would be smart if chat apps implemented a minimum, where “typing” won’t apper until you’re three words into writing a response or something.
That way it wont go off over nothing. It’s still useful, it lets you/them know whether you’re getting/giving an immediate response, so you/they know whether the conversion is continuing right away, or later.
Some of these games actually have demos you can try to get a feel for yourself if you actually want the full game or not.
That said, Tiny Glade isn’t really a “game” so much as a chill town/castle builder that you take screenshots of. It’s cool, it’s pretty, I have it, but only get it if you’re wanting something like Townscaper or Dystopika.
I’ve played a lot of the demos, but either I’m still undecided on a lot of them. After playing the Tiny Glade demo, I put it in my “undecided” folder and then moved it to my “want” folder. I don’t do well with structureless games but Tiny Glade really seems like one of those must-haves.
Tiny Glade is definitely gonna be one I need to think more about.
A technique I used to use for when I used פיסכורפ was to use a text editor to type out my message, then copy&paste. Now I just use slidcord at my convenience, and will use a scraper&archiver soon™ to export stuff in communities I want to maliciously extrapolate. 🖕 Network Effected folks. Aint scanlating on JASRAC friendly snitches.
It’s kind of impressive that you managed to squeeze in so many links to references but without including any that actually back up the accusation you’re making.
No, I mean the completely unfounded claim that discord’s typing indicators are somehow a tool for analysing users’ writing styles and selling that on to data brokers.
It’s so bizarrely specific that it comes across as an unhinged conspiracy theory, especially when it’s delivered as part of a link salad.
I pick up all games on sale, basically. Neva especially I probably won’t get unless it goes down to $5.
Dungeons of Hinterberg is in my “only because they have demo” folder. I’m not a huge fan of combat in games partly because combat as a gameplay mechanic is conceptually uninspired and partly just because I don’t really get the thrill. Dungeon’s of Hinterberg seems like a story thing first and foremost though.
Like in any game period? Big claim and you’re probably not interested in backing it up, but I’m curious.
Nothing major, just that combat is the default mode of operation for most games, especially AAA games. So I generally trend away from games that are built around combat.
IDK, trailer had a good deal of combat—just thought to give you a heads up in case you care about the combat.
I’ll play the demo eventually, so I’ll probably find out how I feel then.
Nothing major, just that combat is the default mode of operation for most games, especially AAA games. So I generally trend away from games that are built around combat.
Fair enough and let me tell you: as someone who exclusively plays games where combat is the central mechanic, I wouldn't touch the current crop of AAA games either.
Why is everyone here gaslighting OP as if this isn’t a valid privacy concern? It’s completely valid. Other messaging services allow you to disable typing indicators and message receipts. Even Google messages offers this. So yea, I’m with OP on this one.
It’s weird that Lemmy is super concerned with privacy yet shits on people for stuff like this. Good jobs guys. Really making Lemmy shine here.
Agree, but let’s not dilute the meaning of “gaslighting”. That word has a VERY specific definition and it had been getting used in inappropriate contexts so much that that very specific and necessary definition is being lost. It refers to a specific abusive behavior pattern which needs a good and concrete word to communicate it. My teen stepdaughter had it in her head that us educating her on the world was “gaslighting”, which is dangerous because she had the “gaslighting bad” reaction to things that were not gaslighting, and it is not limited to her. There is a concerted effort on the part of some political groups to break and weaponize the definitions of things like gaslighting and manipulation, we need to work to make sure it is not successful.
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