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Blackmist, do games w What game has the best tutorial, in your opinion?

I can tell you what the worst tutorial is.

It’s Monster Hunter World.

squaresinger,

Pokemon games also routinely come close.

Rai,

I’m going to guess with near certainty that Monster Hunter World was your first Monster Hunter game if you think THAT tutorial was the worst hahaha

Blackmist,

Yeah, it was. Trying to play, and it keeps stopping you with multiple full screens of text.

I don’t think they understand the concept of tutorials tbh.

Rai,

I started on the first PSP game and it was heavily more obtuse, with almost zero direction, tutorial, hints, anything hahaha. It got a LITTLE better with later “old style” games but it was still pretty obtuse. World NEEDED a tutorial that explained every little detail and held yer hand, otherwise new players would be hella turned off by the game and it wouldn’t have blown up like it did.

kratoz29,
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I was expecting a joke comment mentioning Driver.

I am disappointed I had to scroll this far to find something like that.

Semjaza, do games w Why do people like Mario Kart?

Yes, they enjoy and will happily play me at Mario Kart for exactly the same reasons they won't play me at F-Zero.Presence of catch up mechanics role of luck, amount it rewards familiarity with the game/tracks

bright_side_, do games w Classic Gaming: Retro Gaming Growing Up
@bright_side_@lemmy.world avatar

I would mostly agree. The magic of video games and the virtual worlds was bridged to the real world by sharing them with friends. I can totally see that!

I guess “modern” gaming works best when playing online with friends (not every game allows that of course), and wind down type of games. Self care gaming 😄.

I had some great moments though screensharing my game on discord while being able to watch what my friend was playing on their screenshare. There is something - even though that it is not exactly what you were hinting at, as obviously you can’t directly influence the game that the other is playing - but it is a shared experience in some way that makes it feel connected and special.

That post gave me food for thought.

SeanMallonOfficial,

The time between 1980 to 1989 was called the “Golden Age” of video games. And to touch what you are mentioning about screensharing…

It counts in an indirect way. I agree that the experience is what’s important in this instance.

bright_side_,
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Yeah it’s really no replacement but it feels special to some extend. ☀️

PonyOfWar, do games w Classic Gaming: Retro Gaming Growing Up

I was about 2 decades later, but I bonded over games like Pokemon and later made many friendships in minecraft. Wish I could revisit that time. I think it’s less about any particular era in gaming - it’s about being young. Kids are still forging friendships over video games today - just different ones (although, at least in the case of my nephew, Minecraft is still one of them :D).

menny, do games w What game has the best tutorial, in your opinion?

Tribes: Vengeance’s campaign story is basically one giant tutorial (and a great one at that) on how you move and play in multiplayer.

Too bad that the game didn’t take off at all back then, now there’s just small communities that get together once in a while :l

random_character_a, do games w Why do people like Mario Kart?
@random_character_a@lemmy.world avatar

Mario Cart was never great, It was OK.

It was the game you put on in pre-internet years for your younger relatives, so they don’t have to just sit and fester all day while listening a story about your aunts hip surgery.

It was something anyone could pick up in a second and still be a challenge for anyone.

For most of them this was the only time they were able to play games with a larger group without their mothers bitching about game time. Many kids didn’t even have gaming systems, because they were expensive and many parents thought they were a bad addictive influence, so for them this was an absolute delight.

So, fun memories about the game, even though the game itself isn’t much.

Somehow those cultural influences still echo in the modern world. Dads with all that nostalgia convince their kids that Mario Kart is absolute classic.

maniacalmanicmania, do games w Day 331 of posting a Daily Screenshot from the games l've been playing
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Rick lives. Somebody tell Maggie.

Darkard, do games w Day 331 of posting a Daily Screenshot from the games l've been playing

I’ll say this. Don’t get too invested in the outpost building.

It’s not as fiddly as fallouts settlements. But all you really want it to be is a dumping ground for resources you collected and crafting stations.

Setting up supply chains and auto factories is a pain and a waste of time. As is putting crew in it.

MyNameIsAtticus,
@MyNameIsAtticus@lemmy.world avatar

A dumping ground is really all my Fallout settlements turned out to be anyways lol. Every once and a while I’ll see an idea I want to recreate but usually I just end up slapping some chests down and walking away

punk_princess, do games w What game has the best tutorial, in your opinion?

absolutely not Warframe.

Darkenfolk,

Yeah haha. They made the tutorial slightly better nowadays, but your still getting thrown in the deep end after the Vor quest line.

Kolanaki, do games w What game has the best tutorial, in your opinion?
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Super Mario Bros.

The first level literally is designed to progressively teach you everything you need to know how to play the game and it doesn’t even have a single line of text to do it.

Although I do have to say it is a bit funny that Dark Souls’ tutorial is just some messages on the ground and the first one tells you how to move. But you have to move over to it to read it in the first place.

ReallyActuallyFrankenstein, do games w Classic Gaming: Retro Gaming Growing Up

Guess I’m an outlier. For me, games were the way to disconnect from the stress of relationships. I’ve been an introvert since the beginning, and so games’ positive associations for me are a safe place away from social pressures.

I also imagine every “retro” generation thinks its games are the best. Like, there was a meme post about joy at finding a PS2 torrent recently with strong implied nostalgia, and that’s ok. People usually experience video games at an age where the games teach them archetypical feelings of intellectual pleasure, the first time they experienced joy at solving complex problems for example. That becomes a core association through life.

So I think we’ll all have strong feelings linking the systems we played at our formative years. And again, that’s ok. That we can form such strong associations is an expression of the basic human value of video games, as an art and modern cultural necessity.

blimthepixie, do games w Day 331 of posting a Daily Screenshot from the games l've been playing

I really enjoyed it.

Like fallout 4 and other games, I pointedly ignored building the outposts et al. I didn’t even mod the ships that much because that was a ball ache as well.

It’s just an unnecessary element to the game IMO.

Halosheep,

Fallout 4 with the settlers of the wasteland (I think that’s the name) mod becomes a cool base management game alongside the normal fo4 stuff. It makes the whole system feel worth interacting with, in my opinion. Give it a try if you haven’t and are interested.

ArchmageAzor, do games w What game has the best tutorial, in your opinion?
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For all the faults Nintendo embody, they know how to make tutorials, especially with the Mario series. You may think “there are no tutorials in Mario” but that’s part of it. Nintendo’s design formula for making stages for Mario games consist of “introduction, escalation, complication.” First they throw a new mechanic at you, maybe the stage has rotating cylinders you need to stay on top of to progress, and not fall down. Then they up the difficulty a bit, adding more factors to the gameplay like introducing enemies that you have to dodge simultaneously. Then finally they turn the new concept up to 11 towards the end, by making you have to juggle both the new mechanics and some other modifiers, perhaps having to fight a boss at the same time, or perhaps requiring some more advanced platforming maneuvers to progress. That way a stage can be a tutorial, and you don’t even realize it.

Taleya,

Hard agree, BOTW in particular was spectacular. The Great Plateau.

rothaine,

When you finish the tutorial bits and it’s like “you need to go over here” and the map just opens up and you realize this game is FUCKING HUGE 🤌

Venicon, do games w Day 331 of posting a Daily Screenshot from the games l've been playing
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I have discovered a new love for it after previously abandoning it.

I want to enjoy the outpost building but they made it stupidly complicated.

MyNameIsAtticus,
@MyNameIsAtticus@lemmy.world avatar

How is it compared to Fallout 4’s settlement building? I was assuming they’d use a similar system to that

Venicon,
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Good question! I found it more complicated because you have such a wide variety of resources needed to build everything and only so much storage on your ship so multiple trips and not as convenient fast travel if outside your system.

More than that though is the ridiculous cargo system. You have to create machines to pull out the resources from the ground then a machine to store them and a transport one to get it to the cargo link then it only goes to one side of the cargo link as an outbound resource. Just needlessly complicated and poorly explained in my opinion.

Luouth, do gaming w Just kill me
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Until coffee, I might as well be dead

Fredselfish,
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Hot tea for me. I try to get enough rest but keep getting awaken in the night.

defaultusername,

I just boof pure caffeine to wake me up.

Sometimes I’ll brew a cup of tea instead, though.

Swedneck,
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caffeine pills are severely underrated, you can just have a bottle by the bed and down 100mg without even needing to stand up

defaultusername,

As long as you only ever take one at a time. Caffeine is pretty easy to OD on with pills.

Swedneck,
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that’s true of like, every single pill ever made

defaultusername,

But not coffee or tea

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