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Duamerthrax, do games w What are some old games that are hard to revisit, because a more modern and superior version exists?

I can’t even leave the starting room of the original System Shock. So glad the remake updated the controls.

I did manage to finish System Shock 2, but the “puzzles” are just RNG, so I’m hoping the remaster changes that and maybe even fixes the ending.

VitoRobles,

I just played the original System Shock and System Shock 2. Incredible games.

I saw the trailer for the remake for the first one and wanted one last memory before I get my mind blown.

Duamerthrax, (edited )

The remake for the first game is so actuate to the original, you can use the old walkthough guides to beat it.

You could tell the ending was cut short for time with SS2. It would be nice if they took some creative liberties to bring it closer to what it was originally suppose to be.

Flagstaff,
@Flagstaff@programming.dev avatar

This is ironic because I loved Prey but couldn’t finish SS2’s tutorial!

drmoose, do games w Skill issue

I have noticed that all of these misogynists are incredibly insecure alpha-pretending males. Can’t imagine how tiring this constant fear must be.

VitoRobles, do games w What are some old games that are hard to revisit, because a more modern and superior version exists?

Halo MCC version over the original.

I saw Halo running on a classic Xbox and tried to play with the clunky Xbox controller. Couldn’t do it. Everything looked so low res and blurry.

AnimalsDream, do games w What are some old games that are hard to revisit, because a more modern and superior version exists?

The older Final Fantasy games. I made a point of doing a playthrough of the NES version of FF1, and I’m glad I did. The increased difficulty over the GBA version is mostly better than the absolute lack of challenge in later versions, but the added content and qol improvements make it preferable to play a hardmode hack of the gba version in the future.

The NES FF2 is just too much. I lose stats? No thanks.

And I’m really glad the Pixel Remaster version of FF3 exists now, the NES version was pretty unpolished and glitchy.

ampersandrew, do games w Steam Deck / Gaming News #7
@ampersandrew@lemmy.world avatar

I’ve been playing Borderlands 2 and Kingdom Come: Deliverance, both in preparation for their sequels this year. What I played tonight of the latter was a bit obtuse, and I’m hoping it picks up.

JTskulk, do games w What are some old games that are hard to revisit, because a more modern and superior version exists?

Starcraft! I really think Starcraft Brood War is a better, more balanced game. The quality of life changes in Starcraft 2 make it so hard to go back to playing Brood War. I don’t know if I can adjust back to only selecting a lot amount of units or needing to click on each building to build stuff or not having smart-casting and good pathing.

JakobFel, do games w Skill issue
@JakobFel@retrolemmy.com avatar

Politicizing games is so incredibly tiresome.

treesapx,

Only two genders: male and political.

pyre,

this literally has nothing to do with the game itself. it’s about behavior towards other people, which is intently political.

also video games are art which makes them political as well.

the fact that you kneejerked into this reaction feels super insecure and reactionary.

JakobFel, (edited )
@JakobFel@retrolemmy.com avatar

More like I’m just sick of people hijacking my favorite art form to express political/social issues or sexual fetishes, both of which are becoming too common. It’s exactly why I’ve grown more and more in favor of retro gaming, back when neither of those expressions were anything but a fringe group of miserable individuals and weirdos that most gamers ignored. Not going to argue further, I’ve spoken my piece.

Soggy,

“My position is so tenuous yet so important to my identity that I will not tolerate the slightest challenge.”

Alternatively, “That’s why my favorite book is Moby Dick, no frou-frou symbolism. Just a good simple tale about a man who hates an animal.”

Psychonauts is about trauma. Fallout is anti-war. FFVII is environmentalist. Samus as a woman was an intentionally subversive choice. Video games have had socual commentary for as long as it’s been able to be expressed.

pyre,

I’ve heard this before but “a man who hates an animal” makes me laugh so hard

wieson,

Tetris is about trying to fit into a society, that wants to destroy you.

Space invader is about uniting all of earth’s peoples against a common challenge.

Pong is about the heated but honest exchange of ideas that makes a democracy stronger.

(/jk I agree with you)

pyre,

if you think about it, in tetris once you fit perfectly you get destroyed. but if you don’t, you stand and eventually help each other get to the top. maybe it’s a caution against conformity.

pyre,

I’m glad, because you’re talking nonsense.

what you’re referring to is a time when you were a kid and didn’t realize the politics. now you’re aware of it and are acting like it’s new. this is just illiteracy.

Dreaming_Novaling,

Ugh. Thank you, I was just about to say it myself. There’s been politics in games for forever. Even the simplest shit like, “environmental destruction bad, so Sonic fight Eggman”

People are just too dumb to realize that they were kids back then…

pyre,

even mechanics can be unintentionally political. there was a really cool errant signal video years ago talking about civilization games. it was mostly about what the games idea of a “civilization” is and how the win conditions reinforced the idea that one civilization has to be the superior one to rule them all…

but also these ideas were further reinforced by the way barbarians were depicted. that word already has baggage but the interesting thing is that in civ4 they share a banner with wildlife. like, they’re almost like animals or natural disasters and not people at all.

what conservatives don’t understand is that you can think about things like this and acknowledge what they mean and still enjoy the game and or understand why these choices were made. they’re not necessarily political choices as much as they’re mechanical, but that doesn’t mean we can’t think about what mechanical choices might mean to the player, or what messages they send. if video games are art, they can—and I would say must—be critiqued.

fear of change is at the core of conservatism, and that drives their utter aversion to introspection, and also to criticism of things and people they like. and vice versa, they can’t bring themselves to appreciate any part of anything they don’t like. if they like a person they can do no wrong. if they like a game it must be perfect. if they dislike a song it’s the harbinger of the fall of civilization (ooh look at me bringing it full circle).

in a world of absolutes, there can be no discussion. don’t ask me to think about things please. leave your thoughts and opinions out of my fun time, lest my views get challenged. this is what’s funny about the likes of ben shapiro pretending that they have the facts while liberals are too emotional. their entire world view is based on their feels, and their arguments follow those as justification.

silverlose,

Trying to avoid politics are we? Got some bad news for ya…

ChexMax, do games w What are some old games that are hard to revisit, because a more modern and superior version exists?

I was going to comment harvest moon after reading the title!

A lot of the older games for me. They’re just a lot harder. Like maybe they expect you to be willing to replay an area or a level over and over, getting a little farther each time until you beat it and I just don’t have the stamina for that anymore, or the time.

Newer games baby you, they increase the difficultly perfectly along side your ability growth. They might even make a level easier if you’ve failed twice. Older games don’t care if you’re having fun as much. There was less competition (fewer game choices) and more of a “gamers like this. If you don’t like it, you’re not a gamer” attitude, and now games want to attract everyone.

I have become such a baby about games. I want to have fun the whole time! I can’t handle failing over and over. I’d rather just read a book.

Echolynx,

Same, this is how I got frustrated by Hades. I no longer have endless time to sink into a game to get good.

Potatar,

The “story” of Hades is that the guy you control gets better over time and finally escapes. How else can you convey it? With text (cardinal sin)?

zalgotext,

I don’t think anyone is saying that the story of Hades isn’t portrayed well with the rougelike style, but it’s totally ok to say “I don’t have time to play a game that’s designed such that you fail dozens of times before you win”

MITM0, do games w Skill issue
@MITM0@lemmy.world avatar

Can we see the study ?? Let’s see how credible it is

silverlose,

Not the actual paper but here ya go

www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-33613781

MITM0,
@MITM0@lemmy.world avatar

So no citations & only a mere opinion ? So it’s clear as day then. It’s a misandric hit-piece (off course it’s from BBC)

MrConfusion,

What are you talking about? The BBC article references the research paper directly?

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4503401/

MITM0, (edited )
@MITM0@lemmy.world avatar

Oh I probably disable JS then, I apologize

About Evo-Psych, you probably should see this then

silverlose,

There are SO many sources on this it’s obvious you didn’t even bother to look.

Here’s the paper

journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371%2Fjo…

Maybe do some research for once in your life?

ThomasCrappersGhost,

WTF? Go and spend a day in the big wide world.

In the 90s I watched something and there was a woman that was becoming a fairly competent go cart racer, she quit cause the men she was competing against couldn’t stand “losing to a girl” and got quite nasty about. This won’t be a credible source though, will it?

MITM0, (edited )
@MITM0@lemmy.world avatar

Of course not. Especially with supportive people like you

Since we are talking about the real world; did you deliberately omit the fact that men playing video-games are called pathetic & deadbeat losers regardless of whether they’re champions or not ?

roguetrick,

You’ll need an audience with a much larger inferiority complex if you want that sort of claim to resonate.

MITM0,
@MITM0@lemmy.world avatar

Why should one need an audience for that claim, when the evidence is right there on the internet & IRL

ThomasCrappersGhost,

Just seen your edit. Before I answer this question, are you seriously asking to be judged fairly after judging others unfairly?

Kuranashi,

So that makes it okay to shit on women in games? Go cope elsewhere, incel.

MITM0,
@MITM0@lemmy.world avatar

Men get shat on as well but, I guess we are n9t going to address that huh, if you’re going to virtue-signal as an Egalitarian, then act the part

& ah the incel slur, what are you ?? A sex-obsessed creep ?

Should I be worried about your mental well-being ?

Kuranashi,

Take your mask off and see what happens, incel. It’s always the same fucking formula, go and whine about your own tiny little insecurities every single time anything about women’s experience is highlighted.

You’d find something between your ribs irl real quick if you took off your mask around the people in your life and they found out how incapable you are of even reading about half the population of the Earth’s perspective without self inserting your pathetic insecurities.

Die4Ever, do games w Best game ever?
@Die4Ever@retrolemmy.com avatar

I think Deus Ex (2000). The gameplay is so open and full of possibilities, and the story is crazy but it works so well. It’s so replayable.

minorkeys, do games w Skill issue

“I can’t even beat a girl!?”

silverlose, do gaming w Stop doing path-tracing!

I mean I agree but damn the new Diana jones game looks gooooood boi

Shou, do games w Skill issue

Reminds me of this: journals.sagepub.com/doi/…/0361684319871913

In short. The higher the social status of the woman compared to the man, the more likely the man is to sexually objectify her. Wheras women aren’t more likely to do this based on relative status.

Objectification is defined as reducing a person to solely looks and sexual function.

Similar stuff is seen in primates. Females are easier targets to assert dominance over. Since they are physically weaker. Male long tail maqacues losing their status, would seek out younger/weaker targets to establish dominance over. Something that was interesting too, is that female maqacues with more masculine facial features, were less often subjected to dominance seeking behaviour (from both males and females if I recall correctly) than females with more feminine faces.

It seems to boil down to “who can I dominate with little risk?” Female? Easy. Big male? Stupid idea. Young male? No problem. Male of equal size? Potentially.

Aielman15, do games w Steam Deck / Gaming News #7
@Aielman15@lemmy.world avatar

So sad about GoG’s revenue drop. It’s my store of choice and I genuinely find it more unintrusive than Steam, but if it keeps going like this, I wonder how long it will exist. Hopefully they manage to turn things around.

slimerancher,
@slimerancher@lemmy.world avatar

Yeah, I prefer Steam over GoG, but competition is always good, so hope things get better for them.

selokichtli,

I want to like them, but I use Linux and they contribute almost nothing to gaming on Linux, so, I switched to Steam as my primary store for games. I still hope they do better and buy them games from time to time.

SchwertImStein,

they have semi official partnership with heroic launcher

selokichtli,

Thank you. I didn’t know that, so no Heroic Launcher on my side. I’ll have it mind, see if it works for me.

Pika,
@Pika@sh.itjust.works avatar

I have to second this, trying to get gog to work on steam is a royal pain in the butt, it’s like they tried to make it incompatible with WINE, unless it’s part of the lutris library you need to hope a launcher like heroic works. I didn’t have much luck with it but I know many did.

peculiar_goat, do games w Steam Deck / Gaming News #7

Fun read as always!

I’ve been playing Drova. About 20 hours in now and having a blast getting my arse kicked by the locals. I love how densely packed this little world is… seems like almost every NPC has a bit of dialogue and characterisation in some quest or another.

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