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TheAlbatross, do games w I think Sims is a dead franchise now

Life by You’s cancelation was a big disappointment to hear. I figured if any studio had an understanding of emergent intercharacter storytelling in the way a Sims game needed, it was Paradox.

That said, Para-Lives is still in the works and looks quite promising.

There’s still hope. Just not from EA.

pennomi,

Mmhmm, Paralives looks like it’s going to take the world by storm. I’ve been following their development and they’re doing really good things.

Buttflapper,

Mmhmm, Paralives looks like it’s going to take the world by storm. I’ve been following their development and they’re doing really good things.

Don’t get your hopes up. It never lasts. These small indie studios create something truly insane that’s so fun and incredible, and then big gaming studios like EA come in and ruin everything. A lot of people seem to forget that Maxis, developer of Sims and SimCity, used to be completely independent. EA bought them out and ruined the entire thing, now they basically don’t exist anymore. Who is to say that the developers of Paralives isn’t going to do the same thing? Guarantee they get a stupendous amount of money offered to them and they sell out, and they would be stupid not to. Who wouldn’t sell their franchise for tens of millions and never have to work a day in their life ever again?

pennomi,

Just like ConcernedApe and Stardew, right? Redigit and Terraria?

I wouldn’t say never. A lot of these indie creators love their creation enough to not sell out.

zipzoopaboop,

Maxis made terrible decision after terrible decision. They had no money and ea bailed them out and redesigned sim city 3k to actually be possible on modern hardware, while allowing dollhouse to continue and turn in to the sims 1. Then Sims 2 and 3.

Hate on ea all you want but Maxis fucked themselves up and ea made all of the sims possible.

Pika,

paralives is so slow development though, and the lack of teaser releases concerns me about the quality. I have high expectations for it as well but starting to grow concerned

eutsgueden, do games w Stardew Valley 1.6 is Coming November 4th.

A good man, this Ape.

aeronmelon,

He’s so concerned about everyone.

iAmTheTot, do games w I think Sims is a dead franchise now

Check out Inzoi.

slazer2au,
ModernRisk,
@ModernRisk@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

I have really big hopes for this game, I’m worried to be disappointed. The character creation demo seemed good.

Exeous,

I hope creator outside character look good!

Exeous,

I agree. I play demo creator character. Was fun! Hope game fun!

hannesh93, do games w Stardew Valley 1.6 is Coming November 4th.
@hannesh93@feddit.org avatar

That guy legitimately made his hobby into his job.

There’s 0 reasons for him to still keep updating the game with as much content as he’s doing except for his own satisfaction. Truly the best developer a game can have

ytsedude, do games w Stardew Valley 1.6 is Coming November 4th.

Well, time to start a new farm. Again.

jacksilver, do games w Stardew Valley 1.6 is Coming November 4th.

Anyone have a high level breakdown of what this update contains?

SatyrSack, (edited )

www.stardewvalleywiki.com/Version_History

EDIT: Sorry, that is far from “high level”

kryllic,
@kryllic@programming.dev avatar

New Content and Features

  • New Festivals and Events: Added the Desert Festival, Trout Derby, SquidFest, and a new environmental event in summer.
  • New Farm Type: Meadowlands Farm, which includes a coop and two chickens.
  • NPC Dialogues: Expanded dialogues, including custom gift reactions and dynamic dialogues.
  • Multiple Pets: Players can now have multiple pets after maxing out hearts with their starter pet.
  • Ginger Island Map: A new world map for Ginger Island that shows real-time positions.
  • Winter Outfits for NPCs: NPCs now have winter outfits.
  • New Items: Big Chest, Dehydrator, Mushroom Log, Bait Maker, Heavy Furnace, and Fish Smoker.

Bug Fixes and Improvements

  • Gameplay Adjustments: Bee houses now work with flowers in garden pots, and the gold clock can be turned on or off.
  • Translation and Localization: Improved translations and added options for different fonts and font sizes.
  • Crash Fixes: Addressed various crashes, including those related to NPCs and specific events.
devilish666,

I thought this already fixed with Nexus community, if i recall it’s SVE

Cenzorrll,

Not everyone can install mods

AlligatorBlizzard,

Especially the people getting this update, PC has had this update for like six months already, this announcement is for Switch and mobile versions. Android is the only one that can install mods and not always well.

ech,

In short - a lot.

Bigfish, do games w Stardew Valley 1.6 is Coming November 4th.

I haven’t played since 1.0. Worth jumping back in?

britishblaze,

I’d say so, alot of late game content now plus the mod scene is pretty strong if you want to really mix things up.

Sylence,
@Sylence@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Absolutely, there is sooooo much more content now and the balance and QoL is tonnes better too. Still recommend using the wiki late game though.

PerogiBoi, do games w Day -3 of posting a screenshot from a game I've been playing until I also forget to post screenshots
@PerogiBoi@lemmy.ca avatar

I appreciate you doing this every day! Always something new on my feed and you introduce me to games I don’t know about. Thank you!

callouscomic,

Thank the other person for inspiring me. They’re on like day 68 or something and I too enjoy seeing what others are up to and sharing.

_Lory98_, do games w Day -3 of posting a screenshot from a game I've been playing until I also forget to post screenshots

Recently played through I and II and they were great. Kinda wanna see the bump combat in more games: it was really satisfying.

callouscomic,

I had always heard how horrible it is to go back to these games, and I regret not playing them sooner. It was very fun. People misled me about the old combat style. It’s just different, but not bad.

Meltrax, do games w Stardew Valley 1.6 is Coming November 4th.

I’ve heard the hype but I have never played this game. What am I missing out on?

Empricorn,

There’s farming and fishing, tons to collect and craft and upgrade, there’s dungeons, there’s relationships and rare items, and variety of play in the seasons and festivals… But for me, my favorite thing is just how damn charming it all is. The soundtrack is great and atmospheric, even the sound effect of just chopping down a tree is so perfect and satisfying. And IMO, there’s no game that’s a better example of “play at your own pace”. It’s pretty cheap and appeals to such a wide variety of gamers… So give it a try!

irotsoma,
@irotsoma@lemmy.world avatar

If you like this genre of games, then this is one of the best, so yes, play it. It’s a great, addictive, one more… kind of game with a ton of stuff to do, lots of goals short and long term.

I never really care for the dating sim portion of these kinds of games all that much, so I can’t comment on that part much, but the rest is great!

Tarquinn2049,

Can always go the krobus route, platonic roomates with a friendly shadow monster.

HeyThisIsntTheYMCA,
@HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world avatar

if you’ve got 15 usd to spare it’s a great relaxing timekiller.

SatyrSack,

Game changing updates like this every so often that make you feel like it is an unfinished game still in early access. You may as well just wait until it is finished to actually start playing.

TommySoda,

Bro, the man’s basically releasing free dlc not updating an early access game. The game was never in early access and all your saves are compatible with the new expansions (I sometimes still play the same farm I’ve had since the game was first released). The game already has more content than any other game in the genre and ConcernedApe is still releasing all updates for free and promised to never charge for anything new added to the game. What is there to complain about when you’re getting free shit where in most games it costs $5 to $10?

SatyrSack,

My issue with Stardew Valley content updates is that they change how the game works. It is not just adding extra postgame missions or something. The content updates tend to fundamentally change how some things work. Your possible/preferred routes to reach endgame today are much different than they were in 2016. It makes it feel like perpetual Early Access.

TommySoda,

I don’t know what game you’re playing because I’ve never run into this issue before. I’ve played through year 4 on several different farms and never encountered anything of this magnitude. I’ve been playing this game since day one and have had nothing but positive experiences and so has pretty much everyone else. If minor adjustments to gameplay are enough to classify a game as being in perpetual Early Access, then every single game that is being made today is in perpetual Early Access. In fact in most games you don’t even get the new content with the updates. Also, the game costs $20 it’s not like you’re spending over $100 for the Premium Deluxe Edition Game of the Year Season Pass Preorder Bundle. It’s $20 and goes on sale so frequently you could pick it up for $5 four or five times a year.

SatyrSack,

As an illustration, grab an endgame save from 1.0 and open it up in a modern version of the game. The moment you step out of the door, you will be greeted with a series of cutscenes/dialogs explaining several of the various game mechanics that were added in the versions since 1.0. These are game mechanics that, if they had been part of the game from the start, would have greatly altered how one would have chosen to play and reach endgame. One may have prioritized different crops, events, upgrades, relationships, decorations, etc.

Stardew Valley is absolutely worth the money, and the content updates definitely make it even more of a bargain. But calling the transition from 1.0 to 1.6+ “minor adjustments to gameplay” is disingenuous.

I just miss the days when games were already finished upon release.

Charapaso,

The point folks are making is that Stardew was finished on release, it’s just that the developer has the passion and financial ability to continue to improve it.

If it was 1994, maybe the game would have been released on a cartridge and never changed for myriad reasons (publishing rights, being on physical media, etc).

Example: Super Metroid was one of the best games ever made, and was complete when it was released, but you better believe I’d take free updates that further improve on it. There’s always improvements to make, because nothing can really be perfect. Those hypothetical updates wouldn’t retroactively make it an incomplete game. Maybe it’s too a subtle philosophical point

Empricorn,

As another example, The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time is the best game ever made, in my opinion. But there’s a laughable amount of glitches in it and speedrunners can easily tear the game apart. So it’s not perfect. It’s also old and the graphics are dated. If it were somehow still supported today, there would be a high-resolution texture pack released, no doubt about it…

rigatti,
@rigatti@lemmy.world avatar

Calling Stardew unfinished is hilarious.

SatyrSack,

What would you call it? Live service does not really fit

LunarLoony,
@LunarLoony@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

A video game that happens to get big updates every so often…? Call 'em expansion packs if that makes life easier

rigatti,
@rigatti@lemmy.world avatar

I would call it a complete game that was finished a long time ago but has a passionate developer who provides free content updates. It’s definitely not a live service game, as there are no microtransactions and the updates are free.

Empricorn,

Wow, AAA publishers really did a number on us all, huh? Think of them as “expansions”. The game was absolutely complete on 1.0 and you can still get that version! I have most of my time playing the game on v1.0.

The developer then added more content to the game, for free. The bug fixes have been pretty minor and would have happened with paid updates or without, like any modern game…

Tarquinn2049,

Would you say to not play World of Warcraft until it is “finished”? It has huge game changing updates all the time.

SatyrSack,

“Games as a service” are by design never really finished, right? If you are cool with that, go for it. I have never personally tried one.

Bluefalcon,

Great game with some simple fighting against creatures, foraging, farming, fishing, building, simple life role playing, romance, and all good vibs. Everything is optional though.

EnderMB,

It has essentially killed Harvest Moon as the established farm simulator for relaxed gaming.

If you know someone that loves games, but hates fighting or quick skill-based stuff, they will lose hundreds of hours to this game.

pearsaltchocolatebar,

Fields of Mysteria is looking pretty promising as a stardew replacement

growsomethinggood,

I’d hesitate to call it a replacement but it is very fun! Top of the Stardew-likes imo

Landless2029,

Yeah well Samsung killed harvest moon so we needed a successor.

ConcernedApe fucking delivered. Much relax. Very cute. Such plot.

TommySoda,

If you like this genre this game is at the very top. I played Harvest Moon back in the day and this game surpasses it in almost every way. Plus, it’s $20 and goes on sale for less than that very frequently, sometimes as low as $5. It’s not like you’re losing much if you pick it up. It’s one of my top games on my PC with over 700 hours.

squid_slime, do games w I think Sims is a dead franchise now

It lost its charm after sims 3.

JusticeForPorygon, do games w I think Sims is a dead franchise now
@JusticeForPorygon@lemmy.world avatar

Do people still play The Sims 4? I bought it like 7 years ago, played it once, got bored, and never picked it up again. I saw gameplay once of the Sims 3 and was genuinely surprised by how many more features it had.

Exeous,

I play sims 1/2/3 only look at 4 because it free.

burgersc12,

But did you buy the hundreds of expansions to bring it to feature parity with Sims 3? Only costs like $1065 for all of them! So cheap /s

ryven,
@ryven@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

The Build Mode features in 4 are pretty good if you’re into virtual dollhouse building, and there’s a ton of custom content for it (as long as you’re on PC).

Live Mode is not very good, but it’s functional enough to play dolls in the houses you built if you’re willing to do all the story writing to make up for sims not having very interesting personalities/desires/autonomy.

Buttflapper,

Do people still play The Sims 4?

Yes, it’s widely streamed on Twitch, most of them are just chicks doing house builds. It’s pretty much a PC game version of HGTV to build homes with absurd amounts of customization. Most of them don’t even play the game, they just give themselves tons of money and build a “dream home” like some Ikea home builder simulator. Which is fair, btw, I just want to say that… Completely ok if they like that, not to bash them. But it’s not really playing the full extent of the game, building a family and a career and life simulating.

JusticeForPorygon,
@JusticeForPorygon@lemmy.world avatar

When I did play I would build relationships with people before locking them in my house until they died and then steal all their assets

KoboldCoterie, do games w I had to install directx 9 to run gta 4 on windows 11
@KoboldCoterie@pawb.social avatar

GTA4 is 16 years old at this point. Why would you expect it to support DirectX12, which is 7 years newer than the game?

over_clox,

Why would someone expect DirectX12 to not also support 11/10/9/8/7?

FeelzGoodMan420, (edited )

Because it’s not backwards compatible like that.

over_clox,

Guess not, but as far as I ever knew, M$ has been known to try to maintain backwards compatibility for longer than most users would even consider necessary.

XP supported DirectX 7/8/9

I would have figured that would have continued on with future versions of Windows, but I guess Satya Nadella decided to scrap backwards compatibility.

Oh well, all the more reason I switched to Linux as my main daily runner after Windows 8 came out. 🤷‍♂️

FeelzGoodMan420,

But it IS backwards compatible in the way you are describing. You can play a dx9 game on windows 11. So it is backwards compatible. What you cannot do (usually) is force a game built with dx9 features to use dx11/12 features. If the game wasn’t built with new API features (because it released before those features even existed) then you cannot expect it to be able to just “be dx12” all of a sudden.

computergeek125,

DirectX 12 was released in 2015 with Windows 10, so it’s unlikely to have been ported back to 8.1 and lower.

MS usually only does current+ with compatibility - so for example FF11 (DirectX 8.1 I think) still works (mostly) on Windows 11, but DX12 won’t work on W7

over_clox,

I wasn’t suggesting that I’d expect newer DirectX to work on older versions of Windows. I was suggesting that I would have expected newer DirectX standards to still be backwards compatible with older DirectX standards.

Sigh, I guess Satya Nadella decided to scrap backwards compatibility. Oh well, I switched to Linux after Windows 8 came out anyways. 🤷‍♂️

computergeek125, (edited )

I mean… DX 9, 10, and 11 were all released prior to Nadella being CEO/chairman.

But in software, it’s very commonplace for library versions not to be backwards compatible without recompiling the software. This isn’t the same thing as being able to open a word doc last saved on a floppy disk in 1997 on Word 365 2024 version, this is about loading executable code. Even core libraries in Linux (like OpenSSL and ncurses) respect this same schema, and more strongly than MS.

Using OpenSSL as an example, RHEL 7 provides an interface to OpenSSL 1.0. But 1.1 is not available in the core OS, you’d have to install it separately. 1.1 was introduced to the core in RHEL 8, with a compatibility library on a separate package to support 1.0 packages that hadn’t been recompiled against 1.1 yet. In RHEL 9, the same was true of OpenSSL 3 - a compatibility library for 1.1, and 1.0 support fully dropped from core. So no matter which version you use, you still have to install the right library package. That library package will then also have to work on your version of libc - which is often reasonably wide, but it has it limits just the same.

Edit because I forgot a sentence in the last paragraph - like DirectX, VC++, and OpenGL, you have to match the version of ncurses, OpenSSL, etc exactly to the major (and often the minor) version or else the executable won’t load up and will generate a linking error. Even if you did mangle the binary code to link it, you’d still end up with data corruption or crashes because the library versions are too different to operate.

Tattorack, do games w I think Sims is a dead franchise now
@Tattorack@lemmy.world avatar

Isn’t Sims 2 still the most robust and fleshed out Sims out there?

ripcord,
@ripcord@lemmy.world avatar

I think 3 was, I guess it’s subjective though.

Maybe the base game of 2 had more features or something, and with 3 you needed add-ons

Cagi,

Relative to its time, yes, but Sims 3 is peak Sims. It improved on 2 in every way, but the thing they did the best and left out of 4 was the create a style tool, which allows you to make any surface any texture and colour you like. You could have a wooden sweater and metal carpet. No limits. You could make uncanny replicas of most homes, furnishings and all.

krashmo, do games w I think Sims is a dead franchise now

There’s nothing fun about the game, and you see people streaming it, it’s just building. That’s all they are ever doing. Just building crap.

To be fair, that’s always been a reasonable description of games like Sims, Minecraft, and most other simulation style games, depending on personal preference. Maybe the fact that you’re choosing to use it now means you aren’t as interested in that style of game, or even video games in general, as you used to be. Maybe not, but I think it’s worth considering at least.

Klanky,
@Klanky@sopuli.xyz avatar

That’s how I’ve felt about The Sims since the first one. It was so boring making my Sim go to work, come home, eat, go to bed, shower, etc. I bounced off it hard and never went back. If someone likes it, good for them, but I’ve never gotten it.

thermal_shock,

exact same. even gave away licenses that came with humble bundles.

Buttflapper,

To be fair, that’s always been a reasonable description of games like Sims

I disagree with you here. You’re making it out to be that this is the extent of it, and that’s not true. Sims 3 had a HUGE amount of content aside from Building. There were quests/tasks, lineages for families, hidden objectives, you could wander around your entire city/neighborhood. None of these are possible in Sims 4. Every “neighborhood” has like 5 housing plots. Some have more than that, one of the Vampire ones has literally 4 homes, you can’t scroll over or have your sim walk next door and make a new friend nope. If you/others haven’t played Sims 3, seriously… Go try it, try to 100% it by experiencing all it offers, especially the Future DLC. It’s insane, really. Every S4 DLC by comparison is hollowed out and has like 5 things to do total. Most of the traveling ones, the university ones. They slashed the content in Sims 4 by 75% and kept the price for the DLC the EXACT same. It’s criminal.

krashmo,

I’m not saying it’s not possible that the Sims franchise has gotten worse. I’m just saying that lots of people would have described every Sims game in the same terms OP did. I’m also saying that your tastes and preferences can change over time. It’s possible, but certainly not the only option, that these two things are more true than it is that Sims is getting worse.

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