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sleepybisexual, do gaming w Let's discuss: Nintendo DS

I have an n3ds xl

Its retired but it was the best handheld (besides the awful cstick Its a beautiful machine,

Rai,

If you rip out the C-Stick and replace it with a PSP-1000 joystick, it makes it actually usable!

sleepybisexual,

Would it still be able to close?

Rai,

Yep! Doesn’t touch the screen at all. It snaps right in, too! Made Monster Hunter playable for me hahaha

sleepybisexual,

Nice. If I find a cap for cheap it might be what takes the thing out of retirement. But I’ll admit, the age is starting to show

Rai,

Oh absolutely. I rarely bust mine out anymore even though it has every game hahaha (modded and R4 for DS games.) Can’t beat a nice round of Osu! Tatakae! Ouendan! or the second one, though!

JCPhoenix, do gaming w Let's discuss: Nintendo DS
@JCPhoenix@beehaw.org avatar

My first DS was the DS Lite. I bought it when the game “Contact” came out. Played various JRPGs on it, as I’m wont to do with handhelds. IIRC, the DS Lite was backwards compatible with GBA carts, which was great. I loved the look, feel, and size of it. Honestly, DS Lite is probably my favorite Nintendo handheld, with the Switch a close second.

After that, I think the next DS that I had was the 3DS. Which I still have; I even booted it up earlier this year to try to play “Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney – Spirit of Justice.” I didn’t end up playing it on the 3DS, since I have that anthology on Steam, but I wanted to see where I was.

Games or series that I played a lot on the DS line were practically all of the mainline Ace Attorney games, and even some of the spin offs like the Professor Layton crossover and AA:Investigations. Fire Emblem was another. I think I played Awakening, Fates, and Echoes. I played at least one Pokemon game, too.

SplashJackson, do games w Splatoon 3: After 2 INK-redible years, regular updates will come to a close.

Could barely stand behind their game for two years.

Pathetic.

missingno,
@missingno@fedia.io avatar

Splatoon 1 had one year of content updates. Splatoon 2 had two. And they told us from the start that Splatoon 3 was also going to have two years.

How long do you expect them to keep going for?

SplashJackson,

Heh, considering the premium people pay for Nintendo games, I’d expect them to stand by their products for longer than a year or two. Wouldn’t you?

missingno,
@missingno@fedia.io avatar

Two years of content seems plenty reasonable. Especially when they said from the start that it would be two years. Games don't need infinite updates forever and ever and ever. Especially when it's not a live service being sustained by microtransactions.

You didn’t answer my question, by the way.

SplashJackson,

You’re right, I hadn’t actually answered your question - my bad. I don’t expect them to continually update the game; only that they don’t lock out customers from multiplayer. I believe any manufacturer of a given multiplayer game whose official servers are being closed, have a responsibility to release server software, and add a server browser to the game.

I can still play Counter-Strike online, and even Quake 1 and Doom. What gives?

missingno, (edited )
@missingno@fedia.io avatar

Oh, did you think the headline meant they were shutting S3 down? Servers will remain up for the foreseeable future, and they'll even still run seasonal Splatfest and Big Run events. They're just done with content updates.

SplashJackson,

My mistake, I’ve made a mountain of a molehill.

hitmyspot, do gaming w What are the scariest games you've played?

I found the batman vr game on psvr scariest. It wasnt that scary a premise, but because of the immersion, it was extra. You knew joker was in a cell and you had to Kean in to see. Although you knew he would get you, you had no choice. You had to physically force yourself to be attacked bybsteppibg forwards.

Similarly, the jumping off a cliff to commit suicide in suoerhot vr was quite confronting and scary. I think they edited it out.

Megaman_EXE,

During my search, I keep seeing things about VR, and it seems like it very well could be the next big thing to scare me lol. The added immersion might be just the ticket.

hitmyspot,

I think some have said the start of resident evil village is quite scary on vr, but I havnt played it. Probably less so if you’ve already played it. There are a bunch of junonscare games but they interest me less.

Asafum, (edited ) do games w Final Fantasy XVI is out now on Steam and Epic Games Store

According to a friend who had the displeasure of looking at the file size, he claims it’s 170GB when all is said and done… Stupid Sony square refusing to let steam preload…

RolyRamen,

What’s Sony got to do with this? It’s entirely developed and published by Square.

Asafum,

Yeah true, I had Sony on the brain from a previous comment in this thread lol

ouch,

170 GB is insane. Publishers should really get punished for making larger than average deliveries. Most of that size usage usually comes from poor optimization.

ampersandrew,
@ampersandrew@lemmy.world avatar

They’re typically optimizing for fidelity and performance ahead of install size. Multiple LODs can balloon an install size quite quickly, but they’ll give you better bang for your buck in other areas, and storage space is a concern that dissipates more in time, as you upgrade to newer machines.

ouch,

I have seen this theory floated a few times. The problem is that reading uncompressed files from disk can often be slower than reading less data and decompressing it on the fly efficiently. Would be interesting to see actual studies of this for common game data.

ampersandrew,
@ampersandrew@lemmy.world avatar

It was faster to load the higher resolution data back in the early 2010s on HDDs, so I don’t imagine it got any better for using compression now that we’re on SSDs.

Telorand, do gaming w Let's discuss: Nintendo DS

I got a 1st Gen 3DS second hand some time ago. What I like:

  • Pokemon, Zelda, and Animal Crossing.
  • The 3D effect and dual cameras are neat, though a little gimmicky.

What I don’t like:

  • The heavy reliance upon internet connectivity. I can’t change the details of the account on it without losing access to the downloaded games. I can’t even change it anyway, because the online store is closed.
  • The control stick sucks. It’s good for a very flat control stick, but it doesn’t feel nice to use.
  • Proprietary power connector.
  • The viewing angle on the screen is pretty shallow.

I have a Steam Deck, and it’s just better in all respects. I get that it’s comparing a very new device against an old device, but I don’t really see a reason to pull out the 3DS when I could have a better experience on the SD.

BuboScandiacus,
@BuboScandiacus@mander.xyz avatar

it’s just better in all respects

It’s heavier and uncomfortable to hold (at least if you have small hands)

Telorand,

And you’re entitled to your opinion. I also have small hands, and I don’t find its size or weight to be a problem for me.

jodanlime,
@jodanlime@midwest.social avatar

My hands are pretty medium sized, and I think it’s the most comfortable portable device I have ever had in my hands. It is however a bit heavy. It’s also not a pocket device like the Gameboy was, although most DS are not very pocketable either.

Rai,

I upgraded to a New 3DS XL for Monster Hunter because I needed the control nub for camera control. The viewing angle with eye tracking is SO MUCH BETTER.

I did rip out the control nub and replace it with a PSP joystick, improving it vastly.

Telorand,

Hey, that’s good to know!

missingno,
@missingno@fedia.io avatar

I bought a Steam Deck just to support the most important thing that ever happened to Linux gaming, but mine has actually just been gathering dust. It's far too big to really be a handheld, doesn't fit in my pocket, and does not fill the role that Nintendo's handhelds served for me. The main thing I do end up using it for is taking Deck + dock to FGC events for a portable setup.

Last year I bought a Miyoo Mini Plus, a little emulator handheld, as an impulse buy because it was on sale super cheap. I ended up putting far more time into it than I ever did with the Deck.

Telorand,

That’s cool. I agree that it’s not as portable as some other options, but it wouldn’t be able to do what it does if it was.

That’s why there’s still good options out there for everyone! It’s a great time for gaming.

missingno,
@missingno@fedia.io avatar

My ultimate dream would be to someday get SteamOS running on a DS-sized form factor. Doesn't need to be beefy, just needs to fit in my pocket and run my favorite 2D indie games.

Telorand,

If it happens, do post to !steamdeck. I know lots of people would be interested.

python, do gaming w Let's discuss: Nintendo DS

The only memory I have of my 3DS is being really into a game and playing for so long that I was really really hungry. Then I turned on the 3D slider to get motion sick and not hungry anymore to continue playing the game. Perfect problem solving skills here.

nogare97, do gaming w Let's discuss: Nintendo DS

The most memorable games of the DS era to me were Pokemon Mystery Dungeon Explorers of Time/Darkness/Sky and Dragon Quest IX as well as Bravely Default and Fantasy Life for 3DS. Mystery Dungeons story almost brought me to tears at the end of the main story and I just love the gameplay. DQ IX felt like I could play with friends/family because you create your party how you want it from scratch instead of picking up story relevant characters. In addition I really like the flexibility of the class system. This resulted in a bow wielding paladin that can obviously protect them, but also restore the mana of others and regain it for himself with bow skills and a priest that could give party wide elemental buffs from the ranger type class. Bravely Default because of the same class shenanigans as Dragon Quest. Here I remember making a vampire priest because the vampire gets the ability to potentially revive at the the end of a turn and the priest is the one responsible for reviving everyone else, so he should not stay dead. Fantasy Life was just a cozy grinding game.

knokelmaat, do gaming w Let's discuss: Nintendo DS

My favorite DS game by far was Lock’s Quest. It was the first game that got me genuinely emotional, I had tears in my eyes during the ending. I remember initially being disappointed, as kid me wanted a strategy game, not something where I still had to run around and repair stuff in real time. But my god, my opinion changed quickly and both the gameplay and the story captured my fully. The music was just the icing on the cake.

My most played game by far was Guitar Hero On Tour: Decades. Shredding Can’t Stop by the Red Hot Chili Peppers while sitting in a restaurant with my parents is one of my favorite memories of that time (with headphones of course). I believe this game single-handedly formed most of my music interests for my teenage years.

Finally, I have to mention Bionicle Heroes. I am a massive Bionicle fan (and currently rediscovering it through finally reading the books). This game is by no means a masterpiece, but it is a surprisingly fun first person shooter with great controls and decent graphics for the time. I adored it because my parents were very strict and didn’t let me play realistic shooters, but this way I could get my fps fix and play in the world of Bionicle at the same time!

My device was a Nintendo DS Lite, White with flame stickers that came with the Guitar Hero game. I loved that machine to bits.

rumschlumpel, do gaming w What are the scariest games you've played?

Minecraft probably. I avoid legitimate horror games (and movies) and the fact that you don’t have saves can get a little stressful when you’re down in a cave, don’t know how to find your way back (and thus probably won’t find your body) and then basically get jumpscared by dangerous enemies or holes in the ground.

Megaman_EXE,

Lol that’s true. Nothing like a creeper or two to sneak up behind you in the dark.

autumn,
@autumn@beehaw.org avatar

if you want to know how to get back, pick a side (i chose left) and always put torches on that side going down. to come back up, keep the torches on your right. 🔥

rumschlumpel,

Doesn’t work that well when the way is constantly twisting and splitting. Cave layout can be extremely confusing.

1984, do games w Frostpunk 2: Review Thread
@1984@lemmy.today avatar

I don’t think it will be as good as the first one. That game had a unique feeling. I spent many hours trying to beat the big storm and had tons of fun. Played it over and over again many times until I finally understood how to get through the storm.

I hope this one is also difficult and rewarding, but I doubt it will be as good as the first one, now that we expect so much from it.

Midnitte, do gaming w Let's discuss: Nintendo DS

I still miss the community gimmicks of the DS/3DS - Miis being shared wirelessly, pictochat, etc etc.

We need more of that

homicidalrobot, do gaming w Let's discuss: Nintendo DS

Early in the lifetime of the DS, before the 3ds had even been mentioned, a ton of JRPGs released for the platform seemingly in a bid to become the next earthbound or chrono trigger. Most of them were very mediocre, but to this day Contact (published by atlus) and The World Ends With You (square enix) stand out as stellar titles to me. They represent opposite ends of the jrpg spectrum; contact is a grinding game with a very floaty story, whereas TWEWY has an intricate story and a penalty-free swappable easy difficulty setting to help new players cope with the (initially) awkward combat system. Both of them are stand-out in their own ways, with memorable settings and characters supporting the mechanical depth they offer.

Both of them are games that take advantage of the DS’s unique features, not the microphone but the touchscreen. While Contact is pretty easy on the gimmicks, only requiring you to occasionally peel a sticker or something simple like that, TWEWY’s combat flow has you use buttons to control the top screen while simultaneously doing multiple touch screen gestures, making the game difficult to master on the actual DS and unbelievably hard on an emulator.

TWEWY has since had a remaster and a sequel, but contact is seldom mentioned anywhere when I see the DS talked about. Worth a look!

jodanlime,
@jodanlime@midwest.social avatar

I was going to mention Contact being a unique game, glad I’m not the only one who remembers it fondly. The reviews upon release where not great but I thought it was a pretty good game.

homicidalrobot,

It’s so hard to describe contact. It’s like a more exploratory Rune Factory with no farming sim element and swappable jobs like the final fantasy MMOs. I feel like the audience for the game wasn’t targeted well, as it fell in that era where “core gamers” stopped being a popular target audience (we hardly use the term at all these days).

jodanlime,
@jodanlime@midwest.social avatar

I also think that the marketing failed hard. I don’t remember seeing any ads for the game, and the marketing in Japan made it seem like a bait and switch for Mother 3. It also released pretty close to the Japanese mother 3 release as well.

Berin,
@Berin@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

Yes, More TWEWY love!! I’m kind of sad that’s the franchise seems to get overlooked a lot

Midnitte,

They did end up re-releasing it on Switch and mobile - but the removal of the dual screen combat mechanic seems like a dulling of the game (imo)

t3rmit3, (edited ) do gaming w What are the scariest games you've played?

S.T.A.S.I.S.

Nightmare House 2

Silent Hill 2

Halo: Combat Evolved (the Flood levels are horror masterpieces)

Lone Survivor

Crow Country

Dino Crisis

bjoern_tantau, do gaming w What are the scariest games you've played?
@bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de avatar

The Cradle level in Thief 3 will forever and always be the scariest experience I’ve ever had in any video game, including horror games. It elevated an otherwise mediocre game to be a worthy entry besides the first two games.

Megaman_EXE,

I’ve never gotten a chance to play the thief games. They look right up my alley, though!

bjoern_tantau,
@bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de avatar

They’re great. Just avoid the reboot. Its developers didn’t even play the old ones.

Megaman_EXE,

Ahh, that’s such a shame when that happens. I’ll avoid it like the plague then!

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