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Anticorp, do games w Shower thought, traversal in open world games have turned from game mechanics to loading screens

Eve Online pioneered this approach to loading screens like 20 years ago.

Clbull, do games w Corporate greed is killing RuneScape. What do people play instead?

Final Fantasy XIV may lack the point and click tick based combat and semi AFK gameplay but it’s a solid MMORPG.

Auster, do games w Patient gamer philosophy

I think that, if you have the resources to support that niche, which the savings from cheap offers hopefully allowed for, and you want to see it grow, it’s worth paying more.

yesman, do games w Patient gamer philosophy

Buying isn’t supporting. Capitalism is not a social support network.

Companies have spent millions and taken years to convince people that going shopping is a kind of activism.

If I suggested you donate money directly to a video game company, or volunteer your time to help them you’d see right away how fucking weird that whole concept is.

NOT_RICK, do games w Starfield's first DLC is one of the worst Bethesda DLCs of all time
@NOT_RICK@lemmy.world avatar

Welp, guess I can officially uninstall Starfield. Bummer.

samus12345,
@samus12345@lemmy.world avatar

Your storage drive will thank you.

RightHandOfIkaros, do games w Starfield's first DLC is one of the worst Bethesda DLCs of all time

Still better than Horse Armor. So no, not Bethesda’s worst DLC.

very_well_lost,

At least horse armor was good for the memes. This is so bland no one even cares to meme about it.

Buttflapper,

Still better than Horse Armor. So no, not Bethesda’s worst DLC.

The difference is that Oblivion wasn’t bad at all. It was terrific. Starfield was trash from the beginning, then delivers a trash DLC. That’s much worse. No improvement.

ech,

There are 2 important words there that you’re missing.

samus12345, (edited )
@samus12345@lemmy.world avatar

Shattered Space is one of the Bethesda DLCs of all time.

southsamurai, do games w Patient gamer philosophy
@southsamurai@sh.itjust.works avatar

In general, it isn’t about waiting for prices to drop, though that’s definitely a part. It’s more about avoiding early adoption, imo. Waiting until there’s some degree of information about the game that isn’t marketing, then deciding.

The goal is to make sure the game is stable, that it’s something you actually want to play, and avoiding hype based playing. If the price drops, or there’s a sale, that’s icing on the cake.

In the case of visual novels, I don’t really think it applies. The only thing you’ll really avoid by waiting is any bugs that need fixing, and they aren’t prone to a lot of bugs that break the enjoyment of the story. It does happen, but it isn’t like the usual mobile game bugfest at launches.

MacAttak8,

That’s a great point and a very poignant reason for why patient gaming is important.

I think I was personally focusing on the saving money part!

Bob_Robertson_IX,

I agree, this is why I consider myself a ‘patient gamer’… I don’t want to reward releasing half-done games, or trickling out DLC that should have been included in the original release.

I had to re-evaluate my stance on this when Baldur’s Gate 3 was released because I really wanted to play it, but was going to wait until it went on sale. Then the reviews starting coming in saying that it was a full game, no major issues, and no planned DLC. I immediately purchased it because **THAT **is the behavior I want to reward, and I’m very glad that I did.

missingno, do games w Patient gamer philosophy
@missingno@fedia.io avatar

Patient gaming is a budgeting technique, not a strict law you must always adhere to.

I separate upcoming releases into two categories: games I'm so excited for that I would gladly pay full price at launch, and games I'm willing to wait on. Which games go in which category depend entirely on you and your budget.

Nikls94, do gaming w HDMI 2.1

Upvote because it made me angry.

I’ve come to the point where at least some people come to me for advice on buying electronics.

Girl friend asked me for a TV to connect with her PlayStation, not that expensive, 4K/60 and low input delay for casual gaming, and it should last for at least 10 years and should be cheap. Long story short, I got her a 4K/60fps TV with a gaming mode that has like 2~3ms delay for € 550. It‘s a dumb Philips TV running Linux, so no google play and you can remove all spyware. It has apps, but she got the PS to do all of this anyway.

gazter,

Huh, that’s interesting. I would have thought that a TV running Linux would be called ‘smart’.

I’m with you though, it’s better to be more ‘modular’ and have your playback device- be it PlayStation, media server, heck even television receiver, seperate from the display itself.

MrScottyTay,

Yeah i think that tv is still a smart tv just not an android based smart tv (or it might still be Android since that is also very Linux like, especially when you remove Google services)

mystik,

whats the specific model number?

Nikls94,

Philips Ambilight 55PUS8109 4K LED Smart TV

Runs on TitanOS

B0NK3RS, do games w Patient gamer philosophy
@B0NK3RS@lemmy.world avatar

The question can be asked for most things in life really so just do both options. Generally I’m a “value for money” gamer now but If something catches my eye I will make an effort to support it.

nic2555, do games w Corporate greed is killing RuneScape. What do people play instead?

I’m not sure what you mean by “low effort”? OSRS is an incredibly good game and keeps getting new content all the time. I’m happy to pay 15$ a month since we get a free update every wednesday. Sometimes it’s just some hotfix , other times it’s a whole new boss or continent. We had an new part of the map just last week.

Yes there is bot, but I never felt like it impacted my gameplay other than lowering the price of some items. The team is also doing a lot to ban them, it’s getting much better.

The community is booming. If you look around on YouTube, there’s a lot of content creators doing awesome thing on OSRS: custom game mode, weird twist on existing challenges, documentary, etc.

Honestly, I think we are currently in the golden age of Old school RuneScape, and if you feel like the game is bad or low effort, it might not be for you, which is fine, but the game itself is not the issue.

I hope you find some other game to give you what you had with RuneScape back in the days !

Cethin,

For the last bit hoping they’ll find something like what RS used to be, they won’t. That type of game can’t really exist anymore. (It obviously could make money, looking at OSRS’s player base, but it would never get the funding it needs.) The best options are OSRS (or RS3, which has pros and cons with OSRS and doesn’t deserve all the hate), potentially https://www.polygon.com/24099403/runescape-andrew-gower-brighter-shores-new-mmo in the future (developed by one of the brothers who created RS), or playing a modern MMO.

clickyello,

BS comes out next month btw!

Evotech, do games w I love diablo-likes, but they're also really annoying.

I fucking love path of exile, no other game just let’s you rip though horses of enemies like that one.

Gearing is fun, compared to diablo. The amount of content and mechanics you can interact with is just insane. No map is the same.

RightHandOfIkaros, do games w Patient gamer philosophy

I think for a visual novel, you’re probably better off buying it near release for full price. Maybe even get the more expensive version that comes with the soundtrack if you like the game.

For other types of games, especially more mass market games, they’re more complex and prone to bugs. Visual novels, not so much. So being patient in this particular case would certainly hurt the small creator making the game more than it will hurt your bank account. Visual novels aren’t usually $60.

djidane535, do games w Patient gamer philosophy
@djidane535@sh.itjust.works avatar

Just to say that the question might not only concern niche games. Any game that you do not buy shortly after its release might have a negative impact on the franchise (because most sales happen in a few weeks, with rare exceptions of course).

MacAttak8,

Great point. Completely agree this applies to any niche games or even any niche market as a whole.

My personal connection and the reason I posed this is me considering whether or not to pay full price for the fate/stay remaster as well as the tsukihime release.

Carrolade, do games w Patient gamer philosophy

Personally I am very willing to pay full price and even occasionally buy pointless extras I don’t care about if it helps reward their passion for a project I see as a valuable contribution. I’ll even pre-order or provide them some free advertising in some cases. Especially if its the sort of dev where it seems like their long-term survival might be in question.

I feel like you can usually tell when the dev needs money or doesn’t.

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