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PunchingWood, (edited ) do games w Steam adds new "Trending Free" tab to hide demos from new & trending

To imagine there was a long time games didn’t offer enough demos anymore, and now we get so much that they need to be filtered 😂

TheLongPrice,

this is the best timeline

Appoxo,
@Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Shovelware demos are useless.
I remember the time I played the demo for farming sim and DOA:Dimensions to death on my 3DS. Those were actually good demos.

PunchingWood,

Yeah it doesn’t compare to old-school demos like stuff that came on discs with magazines, but at least it’s a lot better getting the option to try something instead of buying and refunding everything. And at least some bigger studios and indi games are picking up on this as well.

Appoxo,
@Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

For sure. But I hope they use the Steam Demo feature (same game page with a demo install button) instead of doing a free and premium type of publishing like they do with phone apps

smeg,

instead of doing a free and premium type of publishing like they do with phone apps

It’s not just phone apps, look at this shit on a big-name Steam game:

https://feddit.uk/pictrs/image/b7a6d157-a2a7-4473-94fb-903c8d44d942.webp

Calling your free trial “definitive edition” and having the “base game” as a paid DLC is purposely misleading

Infinitus,

I mean… Aoe3 always had some sort of a demo version. Even the original base game had it. In fact, this is actually better, as now you are able to use 3 rotating civs, not just the English and the French, which you were forced to use before.

smeg,

It’s more than fine to have a demo, just call it a demo rather than tricking people into thinking it’s the full version for free!

Appoxo,
@Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

:(
Why tho

smeg,

Presumably for the free marketing of appearing in the free-to-play list

Appoxo,
@Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

This was more meant as a rhetoric question but it’s most likely as you said. A bit annoying indeed.

RogueBanana,

I am not sure what demos you mention in particular but the one I recently played is news tower and I am hooked. Just waiting for a good sale to snag the game and even stopped posting the demo mid way. I for one appreciate all the demos being put out even if it is short. Their only purpose is to showcase the full game and they do a decent job of that.

Appoxo,
@Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

I never said demos for actual decent games are bad. Just that trash games and asset swap games are and polluting the search results and library.

WalnutLum,

I have a feeling a lot of these demos were just trying to game that very “new and trending” page, and this change will produce fewer demos.

CosmoNova,

It’s the current Steam publishing meta. A free demo will create traffic for the newly created Steam page of your game, resulting in more Wishlistings, which is usually the only way to be featured and seen anywhere before release for indie developers. And that’s how your Wishlistings really explode and you make a lot of sales. Getting a demo out is by far highest priority for game publishing in 2024.

MindTraveller,

Hell yeah. Valve is making consumer friendly practices the industry meta!

echodot,

The thing is, we don’t need a demo trending page all that much. Since you says will find the demos only game store page, they ain’t looking at the trending list to find them

thorisalaptop, (edited ) do games w Is mafia 3 really that bad?

Unpopular opinion but I preferred Mafia 3 over 2. I don’t think any of them are great games, just solid ones.

Mafia 2’s story is good, but the game started to feel pretty repetitive for me quickly. “Get in car, drive somewhere listening to a conversation to move the story forward, shoot some people, repeat until game is over.”

Mafia 3 also feels repetitive, and can definitely start to feel grindy. But I think the main missions are better designed than 2, and the combat overall also feels better and more fun. So it’s a trade off: it’s an open world game so it’s got more filler to make it longer, but when it’s good it’s better than its predecessor (IMHO).

deuleb_biezelbob, do games w Any Sins of a Solar Empire communities?
@deuleb_biezelbob@programming.dev avatar

If you make one Ill hang around. Been wanting to play the first one for a long time

58008, do games w Is mafia 3 really that bad?
@58008@lemmy.world avatar

If they had added fast travel, it would have been a really solid game (to me, at least). The excruciatingly-long driving sessions were interminable, and it was this that made me abandon the game in the end, even though I was already about 2/3 of the way through it. The characters, acting and story were really good.

It’s quite repetitive, but no more than any other middling open world game. I happen to enjoy stealthily murdering people with a giant combat knife, so the repetition didn’t bother me. The constant criss-crossing around the map to go to/from objectives bothered me a lot. 90% of the checkpoints in each quest could have been a phone call.

I wonder if there’s a mod that lets you teleport to map markers 🤔 If so, I would play the game again.

Bougie_Birdie, do games w Should I play mafia 1 original or remake?
@Bougie_Birdie@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

I’ve played both. Quality of life is way better in the remake (who thought Reload should be bound to L?), and IIRC you can adjust the driving physics so you can decide whether you want a realistic or more arcade experience.

In either event, good luck with the race car missions

Broken_Monitor, do gaming w It's irritating how low effort AA+ games are these days

People keep paying for it so why put more effort into it? When they do it doesn’t seem to pay off. The last game I bought from a big publisher was Hi Fi Rush. It was fantastic, original, clearly had more thought and effort out into it than the average AAA game, and look what happened to them. Hopefully their transition to a new owner turns out to be a positive one, but considering the industry trends I’m not holding my breath on that one.

This is why I do the patient gamers thing. I almost always wait for sales, bundles, etc. Most of my games come in at a deep discount, and the only ones I grab at a slight discount are because it’s got stellar reviews, had enough time to see how the updates, MTX bullshit, or servers played out, and is clearly still interesting enough to be worth both my money and time.

Isthereanydeal.com is my best friend for this. Gog.com is also great. Humblebundle.com is still occasionally worth looking at.

Essence_of_Meh, do games w Why was Tommy Angelo killed in mafia 2?
@Essence_of_Meh@lemmy.world avatar

It’s a retribution by the mob because of what he did in the first game. I’ll put it in spoilers just in case:

Mafia 1 spoilersThe whole premise of the first game is that Tommy talks to the police to get out of crime life. He ends up testifying against the Salieri family, receives lower sentence and enters witness protection program with his family.

hades, do games w Why was Tommy Angelo killed in mafia 2?

Because he testified against the entire city’s worth of mafia?

ekZepp, (edited ) do games w Steam adds new "Trending Free" tab to hide demos from new & trending
@ekZepp@lemmy.world avatar

This is just great!

Psythik,

Yeah I can’t wait to try some new games today! Usually it’s impossible to find a good F2P game unless it’s really popular. Like Once Human, for example. I see why it’s popular but the gameplay loop isn’t for me. Too much gathering/crafting, and dungeons aren’t fun as a solo player. I was bored after 2 days.

Thanks to this new category, now I can just go down the list until I find something I can enjoy.

smeg,

This is a shameless self-plug but I post a lot of free games in !freegames. They’re primarily limited-time giveaways, but I also tag some with [Forever-Free Friday] which might be more what you’re looking for.

slazer2au, do games w Any Sins of a Solar Empire communities?

Don’t think there is one, but feel free to make one.

klisurovi4, do games w Is mafia 3 really that bad?

The map looks and feels amazing, one of my favourite worlds in a game, and the main story missions are really, really good

BUT

To unlock said story missions you have to do multiple hours of open world tasks, most of which consist of going to an area and mindlessly killing everybody. If you enjoy grinding, you will probably like it, I have a friend who does, but I couldn’t bring myself to finish it because I found unlocking the story missions mind-numbing.

cheddar, do games w Is mafia 3 really that bad?
@cheddar@programming.dev avatar

80% of the game is:

  1. Go to location A.
  2. Kill everyone.
  3. Go somewhere else.
  4. Wait until the boss comes to location A.
  5. Go to location A again.
  6. Kill everyone again.

Most locations also look the same, they reuse the same church/warehouse/car shop model. It’s boring and repetitive. Watch the story on YT.

cheddar, do games w Should I play mafia 1 original or remake?
@cheddar@programming.dev avatar

I think the original has a better atmosphere, you have to drive between the missions instead of being teleported to the location, which inevitably works towards the immersion. But it also an early 00s game, sometimes it can feel too hard or frustrating. See it for yourself if that’s what you want.

cyberic, do games w Any Sins of a Solar Empire communities?
@cyberic@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

You can always check lemmyverse.net but I don’t think there is one yet

Toneswirly, do games w Is mafia 3 really that bad?

Its boring in long stretches. The story has decent hooks but the characters are a bit too cartoony and flat. Kind of a forgetable experience.

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