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curiousPJ, (edited ) do games w Valve issues DMCA takedown for "Team Fortress: Source 2"

Valve seems okay with TF2 mods on the older engine… See tf2classic.com

I feel like the TF2Classic ran into dmca issues earlier in their dev cycle as well.

Edit: yes they did twitter.com/tf2classic/…/1436328611485818880

Deiv,

Is tf2classic any good? I loved tf2, but the bots just made it unplayable

queue, do games w Valve issues DMCA takedown for "Team Fortress: Source 2"
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I just wish Valve wasn’t pulling a Nintendo and not aiding the fans of a game they care about, instead of just sitting on it and claiming they are doing all they can for it.

How long has it been since we were promised a major update after Jungle Inferno? How long since Valve promised community fixes? How long since Valve delayed it with “we’re working hard on making it next update”? How long did Valve say they heard the community loud and clear about the bot crisis?

TF2 is my all time favorite game, but it’s no longer really playable in 2024. Casual servers are infested with bots, and there’s been no major changes to the game since 2017. I wish Valve cared about the game as much as the community still does dozens of years later.

MaxVoltage,
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why do peopoe bot?

berg,

To get in-game drops as far as I know.

Carighan,
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Not all games need to be officially supported forever, tbh.

You can easily run your own server for it, so like UT99 or so, fans can form communities and play.

Basically, I’d rather them put effort into a Team Fortress 3, even though I know that’s of course utopian given we never got an HL3 either.

sosodev,

If they don’t want to support it that’s fine but they should stop releasing new micro transactions then

stoly,

They most certainly made a decision based on priorities and TF2 wasn’t a big enough one for them to jump on. If there were enough users who would pay clamoring for it, they’d move.

stoly, do games w Valve issues DMCA takedown for "Team Fortress: Source 2"

Making a Portal mod is much different than possessing and using the original source code of a game. I don’t understand why they thought they could get away with such a high-profile title as TF.

Katana314, do games w Many players have become "patient gamers". What are games people might miss out on by waiting for sales?

The specific game that gave me the idea for this post was Freedom Planet 2. I remember getting the original as part of one of the early Humble Bundles, and enjoyed it, but never felt compelled to try the sequel.

Something I’ve been missing is having more game stories with fully “melodramatic” character acting - where character A is gasping in tears over the injuries to character B, and won’t ever forgive ruthless villain Y. That was something I remembered FP1 for, for better or worse, and apparently from reviews they improved their craft a bit for the sequel.

mesamunefire,

FP2 was a fantastic game. I loved it. I also liked Crosscode and Coromon. Both have the pixel look that I love and both were fun to me.

WarmSoda, do games w Valve issues DMCA takedown for "Team Fortress: Source 2"

Portal 2 isn’t an ongoing live online multiplayer game with in game purchases.

Kolanaki,
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Seeing the down votes I have to say this: He has a point here. TF2 is a F2P game that generates its revenue these days from marketplace and key transactions. If someone were to remake the entire game and it was allowed to release, it would most assuredly damage TF2’s revenue. A mod for Portal 2 has more potential to generate revenue because anyone interested in the mod that doesn’t currently own Portal 2, would have to buy the game.

At the end of the day, Valve is still a business. This news sucks for people who love playing games, but is entirely not unexpected.

sosodev,

Is it right to push more gambling based micro transactions in a game that lacks actual support?

If this were any other company people would be raging

Kolanaki,
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If this were any other company people would be raging

If this were any other company, I’d be saying the same thing. Nintendo shuts down shit left and right; most of them are mods for games that the only way to use the mods is via emulation. And it’s a lot easier to pirate a game for that than it is to dump one you own legitimately.

It’s certainly within their right to protect their shit. The ethics and morality of what that shit happens to be is irrelevant to the copyright discussion.

Also: TF2 is still supported… It still receives regular updates. It had one on the 9th.

sosodev, (edited )

Those “updates” are pitiful. As far as I understand the vast majority of update content is still being supplied by the community. The game is still flooded by hackers with no word on when that will be addressed if ever.

thesporkeffect, do games w Many players have become "patient gamers". What are games people might miss out on by waiting for sales?

Project Zomboid is in this category

Kaldo, do gaming w 5+ man group games
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I’d suggest valheim but I’m not sure how is the performance nowadays, our rented servers struggled a lot with only 3-4 people and I think 10 is the max. Sailing was especially very laggy and glitchy because if it unfortunately.

HumbleFlamingo,

The issue with Valheim is it’s not really a dedicated server. It’s more of a shared saved game repository.

Whoever gets to a region first is the host, and everyone nearby connects to them. If that person has a slow machine, or high latency to the other players it can be really painful. When I was playing with friends, we banned one person from entering dungeons first because they had the worst computer in the group and it was really bad for the rest of us. Same thing with our main base, if they wound up the host, they’d disconnect and log back in so someone else would become host.

bermuda, do gaming w 5+ man group games

Quake Live

Turmbaumeister, do gaming w Weekly “What are you playing” Thread || Week of January 7th

I’ve given another chance to Lords of the Fallen as I’ve realised I might have held it to the absurdly high standard of the masterpiece that is Lies of P and it’s a fun game, I’ve just reached the last dungeon.

It has a ton of problems: the jump is terrible, the lock on mechanic is the worst I’ve ever seen, camera is bad, the only challenge the designers seem to know is to gank the player with 50 enemies all the time, quests can be failed by beating a boss too early, selling an item(no buy back) or opening doors, bosses are kind meh and so on BUT it somehow is still fun and good, it’s like it’s more than the sum of its parts. 8/10 and I actually would recommend it.

paddirn, do games w Valve issues DMCA takedown for "Team Fortress: Source 2"

Seems like they were already planning on stopping the project anyways, Valve’s DMCA just happened to come while they were already deliberating on it:

While we were discussing the project’s future internally recently, we already came to the conclusion to stop the development of the project due to the current state of the code being unusable anymore with s&box’s recent major engine changes, and that we overall moved on from it.

Sadly, this means this DMCA takedown is the nail in the coffin. We cannot bring it back and we’ve hit Valve’s attention, it seems like they definitely don’t want us to use their IP (which is totally fair and legal from them).

KingThrillgore, do games w Valve issues DMCA takedown for "Team Fortress: Source 2"
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If I had to guess a real reason why: a new TF game in Source 2, or something similar is in the works at Valve. It may never make it out of pre-production, but it wouldn’t surprise me.

It would surprise me if they did it to capitalize on Overwatch, which would show that Valve leadership can’t make an original idea, and is chasing an also-ran that’s not successful.

paddirn,

Team Fortress 3? Everyone knows that Valve can’t count beyond 3.

And the Lord spake, saying, “First shalt thou take out the Holy Pin. Then, shalt thou count to two. No more. No less. Two shalt be the number thou shalt count, and the number of the counting shalt be two. Three shalt thou not count, nor either count thou one, excepting that thou then proceed to two. Four is right out. Once the number two, being the second number, be reached, then lobbest thou thy Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch towards thy foe, who, being naughty in My sight, shall snuff it.”

bekopharm, do gaming w Weekly “What are you playing” Thread || Week of January 7th
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I played “The Expanse” (on Linux PC) and I enjoyed it so much that I didn’t put the controller down for over 6 hours (beko.famkos.net/x/1CMPu)

kolektyw_szmer, do zapytajszmer w zepsuła się kompatybilność szmeru z mastodonem?
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Dzięki za zwrócenie uwagi, przyjrzymy się sprawie.

kolektyw_szmer,
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Już powinno działać. Naprawiliśmy i obserwujemy od ~20h, wygląda na to, że jest ok.

Co się zepsuło?

Aktualizacja do 0.19.x była ważna, i poprawiła szereg rzeczy, ale… zepsuła federację.

Znaczy, nie całkiem. Federacja sobie działa radośnie po odpaleniu Lemmy’ego, ale po paru godzinach wysiada. Poprawka jeszcze nie wyszła, więc w międzyczasie po prostu automatycznie restartujemy Lemmy’ego co kilka godzin. 🤷‍♂️

Jak tylko wypuszczą poprawkę, zaktualizujemy. Ostatnie zmiany w naszej infrastrukturze ułatwiły tego typu prace, więc już nie trzeba będzie czekać miesiącami na aktualizacje. 🎉

kolektyw_szmer,
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Aktualnie aktualizacja została już zaktualizowana do najnowszej aktualizacji.

olicvb, do gaming w 5+ man group games
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If you want a Mario Party like, Pummel Party is very fun imo

Scary_le_Poo,
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Pummel party is so much fun and if you go in the workshop there are tons of minigames and maps

verysoft, do games w Valve issues DMCA takedown for "Team Fortress: Source 2"

The GitHub DMCA report linked in that post seems fake to me. It's unprofessionally written and has many mistakes and inconsistencies across it.

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