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toxicbubble420, do gaming w What are some good games that have a bad reputation due to unreasonable expectations?

Resident Evil Revelations 2 never gets talked about since it’s a ‘mediocre’ spinoff but i very much enjoyed it

Fedegenerate, (edited ) do games w New guide on Ico dropped on Gamefaqs

Funnily, I just finished this game for the first time last week. Wonder what happened in our lives that it became relevant. I might use the guide for a NG+ if it tells me how to get the lightsaber.

Mine was that I got an emulation setup capable of PS2 and GameCube. I’m making a conscious effort to finish games instead of downloading 10,000 games and just staring at the menu. So I have 1 narrative game (currently Zelda Windwaker) and a few genre games (fighting, racing) that I can dip in and out of.

Ico I never played at the time, and certainly wouldn’t have enjoyed it if I played it 20 years ago. I’m still digesting it if I’m honest. I think it mostly did what it wanted, I did become protective of Yorda. But, I think I wanted to play through it quicker than it wanted me to progress, instead of pausing to absorb through the backtracking and repeat sections I just wanted them over. Maybe that’s me with the weight of all the other games I wanted to get to after Ico, or I’m not the introspective type, or it failed to get me into an introspective space I dunno.

nodimetotie,

For me, I wanted to play it for a long time, finally had the time during the holiday break. I played the Shadow of the Colossus last year, so this year it’s ICO. Pretty happy with the PCSX2 emulator.

With ICO, I think it pays off to take it slow. I actually beat it three times now, I think. On my first play through I would often just pause and let the views sink in. It felt so magical for me.

Btw, there is a pretty cool speed run of the game by sanchopanda on GDQ

cottonmon, do games w New guide on Ico dropped on Gamefaqs
@cottonmon@lemmy.world avatar

I really hope Gamefaqs continues to persist. I still think it’s one of the best places for guides.

nodimetotie,

Are there any rumors it might go down? Looks alive and well.

cottonmon,
@cottonmon@lemmy.world avatar

Not really, it’s just that a lot of guides nowadays are done on youtube. I personally think text guides are superior so I really don’t want gamefaqs to go away.

nodimetotie,

Agreed, nothing beats looking up a text code to jump to a section

Unanimous_anonymous, do gaming w What video games have you played recently? What are you currently playing? And what will you play? - Discussion Thread #2

Just finished 100%ing Sea of Stars. The combat was fun, and the general story and game play is very much so a nod to Chrono Trigger. Would absolutely recommend if you enjoy that type of game.

Just last night I downloaded and am about an hour into Dave the Diver. So far the game loop seems interesting, but im hoping it doesn’t just become a stacked chore game (so to speak).

Kolanaki, do gaming w What are some good games that have a bad reputation due to unreasonable expectations?
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Maybe a bit unpopular but… Cyberpunk 2077. I followed this game intensely since it was first announced with nothing more than a short animatic sequence. It went through all kinds of changes, and many of those were publicly documented before the launch of the game and still had people complaining that they were not in the final game.

It did kind of start with pretty pie in the sky promises, but over thirteen years those promises were tempered. The hacking stuff most people point to is technically all there. Just not as presented in that extremely obvious pre-rendering. Many of the other disappointing things like cops not chasing you should have been expected. They were adamant about it not being like GTA and the cops wouldn’t give chase the same way.

Somehow, everyone got hyped to shit about a lot of stuff with this game only ever mentioned way early into production while they were still brainstorming ideas they wanted to do while I was watching every single thing CDPR put out about it and ended up getting exactly what I expected. My biggest disappointment with the game is the overhype and overreaction leading to them cancelling a lot of planned additions and likely even completely changing the scope of the DLC.

That isn’t to say I think it’s a flawless masterpiece; I expected The Witcher 3 but sci-fi, and I feel that’s what I got. Great story, well done dialogue, cool world, and fun combat. I see a lot of bad decisions and unfinished pieces, but as a long time gamer I can’t say I don’t expect that kind of shit from pretty much every game. Even the best games have those parts where you can clearly see the budget dropped off or management pulled some bullshit.

ampersandrew,
@ampersandrew@kbin.social avatar

How do you get 13 years? It's been 11 years since the pre-rendered teaser trailer, and it was less than that between announcement and release. They also were open about not being full force on development for the game until Witcher 3 finished, and the announcement trailer served as a recruitment tool, something that most studios don't do anymore.

Kolanaki,
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Er… I think I was just thinking 2013 when that teaser came out. Them not being full-on in development was part of my point. A lot of things they mentioned that hyped the game up were before they were actually set in stone and actively being worked on.

ampersandrew,
@ampersandrew@kbin.social avatar

Well, if you feel that that's what set that game up for failure, let me tell you about another RPG going through the exact same cycle: the next Mass Effect. That game isn't getting full attention until after Dragon Age. Its first teaser was 3 years ago, and it's still got at least 3 more years to go, assuming Dragon Age comes out this year.

Kolanaki,
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Sometimes devs just need to keep their big mouths shut. Especially if they are still in the planning phase. They’re not immune to over-excitement for the very thing they are hoping to create, even if they aren’t straight up lying about stuff.

comicallycluttered,

I expect Elder Scrolls VI to be similarly received. Although, it seems that after Starfield, people are definitely beginning to temper their expectations of the new TES game.

Also announced far too early and it’ll probably only start major development later this year once the Starfield DLC is out (at best), and that’ll last for about four years, but more likely somewhere around five, which means it’ll probably be released about five to six years from now, which is… At least 11 years after announcing it (2018) and a full 18+ years after Skyrim.

Someone could literally have been born after Skyrim and begun college by the time TES VI is released. It’s fucking wild.

ampersandrew,
@ampersandrew@kbin.social avatar

Yup. But if Microsoft is smart, they'll be examining exactly the reasons why Starfield is what it is and how to improve the next BGS game. That will start with throwing their engine away, because any way you slice it, there's just no saving that thing.

millie, (edited )

I just did a replay recently and it was a lot of fun. They really nailed environments, sound, really the whole look and feel of the thing. Gameplay too; I did a monowire netrunner build this time and it was wild. Unlike anything I’ve played before, really. But I did have to cheat a bit to get there.

There used to be a monowire you could go grab out of a box right from the start, but they took it out and locked access to any monowire behind street smarts. I added a console to give myself one and added some cyberware while I’m at it, because why not chrome up?

This was, in fact, totally fine. The locking out doesn’t seem to have anything at all to do with balance.

I did have to spawn myself a bunch of these new shards to increase my cyberware limit, though, because they decided to cap them out and add an item to unlock them. Again, my going crazy with it really didn’t disrupt balance at all.

So why? Because someone in some department somewhere sees game mechanics as a commodity, and they’re treating them like dlc. I get an infinite sea of generic weapons, but try to do the cyberpunk things and the game wags its finger.

Aside from treating game mechanics as a commodity and meting out little scraps, it really doesn’t seem to have any concern for player autonomy when it comes to a lot of the quests. At one point they shoved me into a hideous green snake skin pantsuit and I stopped playing for a week. The game repeatedly forced me to use a pistol, turning what would have been fun quests into obnoxious slogs while I waited to be allowed to play the game again.

Hell, even a pivotal moment in the DLC literally forces a gun into my hands and glitches out if I try to do anything it doesn’t expect. I had a character literally glitch its hands through its head to shoot at me when I tried to run behind it. That’s not even mentioning the numerous points where going off the rails just immediately kills you and forces you to reload. Not because of anything actually dangerous or bad, but just because you’re not supposed to go that way. Rather than making some obstacle, they literally just pick you up and put you back on the path. Could have invented literally anything to explain it away, maybe a security shield or something that kills anyone with a head computer who tries to leave the area, but they just didn’t bother. Telling the player ‘no’ is enough for them. Cool. Fun.

It’s a fun game overall, but it could have been a way better game with a little more inter-departmental communication, a few less money people, and a little more respect for player agency.

taanegl,

I’m on my 3rd play through. It’s still janky and buggy in some regards, but my god the theme, the characterisation, the stories, the plot. It’s how you put together an open world game, where immersion relies on the art of story telling.

Someone tell Todd Howard. Maybe the next Bethesda game won’t be so incredibly bland.

interolivary,
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The v2.0 changes were actually pretty good, made me want to start another playthrough. I really like the new metro system even though it’s such a small thing considering everything else they changed, but it’s fun to be able to hop onto a metro to get somewhere. The game is already pretty immersive and that small detail just adds to it

Banzai51,
@Banzai51@midwest.social avatar

The launch was a disaster on consoles. But on PC, while still having bugs, wasn’t anywhere near as bad. The game is fantastic.

Lemvi, do gaming w What are some good games that have a bad reputation due to unreasonable expectations?

I really enjoyed Watch_Dogs, despite the shit it got at the time.

thatsTheCatch,

Me too

AlwaysNowNeverNotMe,
@AlwaysNowNeverNotMe@kbin.social avatar

The um, plot, was a little bare.

But very unique multiplayer.

Berttheduck,

I got it for free and really enjoyed it. The main character is the epitome of beige and bland generic gruff white dude but the game did quite a lot new and had some good ideas.

The second one was even better, it’s very meme heavy in its characters but if you can tolerate them the gameplay is even better and the story is better too.

EvaUnit02,
@EvaUnit02@kbin.social avatar

I thought the protagonist was great. It was a man coming to the realization that he wasn't so much a heroic renegade as he was a malicious bad guy.

pixxelkick, do games w This console generation seems skippable

I haven’t found a compelling reason to not just build a solid gaming pc, then buy a Chromecast and steam link to it.

Latency is quite low on a wired connection, I can stream 4k to my TV, and I can use an Xbox controller. You literally couldn’t tell me the difference most of the time.

I’m rocking an 11th gen Intel i9, 4060 ti, and gigabit network wired between PC <-> chromecast.

Just make sure you get the latest chromecast that can handle 4k streaming though!

Not to wire ethernet into a chromecast, you need a USB c adapter, those dongles that take in USB C power, ethernet, etc. It has a single fully functional USB c port, so you can also connect wired USB and all the jazz to it if needed.

lolcatnip,

If everything is wired, why not just use an HDMI cable?

SaltySalamander,
@SaltySalamander@kbin.social avatar

Because most people don't have their gaming PC in the living room.

pixxelkick,

This, my machine is in the basement inside my server rack lol.

Pajooonk, do zapytajszmer w Przechwytywanie neolibków.

Oni powielają wzorce które sprawdziły się w rosji. Tamten kraj wyprodukował masę materiałów które są wykorzystywane przez skrajną prawicę na całym świecie.

Odtrutką jest edukacja, nic innego. Nie da się tępej propagandy zwalczać tępą propagandą.

SteposVenzny, do gaming w What games do you think are unfairly snubbed when talking about the best games of all time?

I feel like these conversations get dominated by games with the fewest explicit flaws rather than the ones that have the most to offer but it’s my firm belief that no piece of art can be truly great which is not also kind of annoying. Not because annoyingness is inherent to greatness but because greatness and annoyingness are both the products of an underlying willingness to take creative risks.

So in that spirit, my answer is Steambot Chronicles.

Signtist,

Best game of all time. I play it every year.

DdCno1,

I’ve never heard of it. What makes it so great in your opinion?

Signtist,

Nobody’s ever heard of it; I’ve been singing its praises since 2006, and I’ve never met another person in real life who’s heard of it. It’s an amazing game set in a slightly-steampunk world where cars have only recently been invented, but giant steam-powered mechs were invented around the same time as well. The story’s interesting, but the real fun comes from how much freedom the game gives in how you want to play it:

You can customize your character’s clothes, you can be a good guy, you can be a jerk who charges his friends for every little favor, you can just straight-up be a villain, you can hustle pool, you can play in a band with a bunch of different instruments, each with their own mini game associated with playing them, you can extort or save an orphanage, you can buy and decorate an apartment, then play a dating sim with some of the characters, and that’s all before you factor in the giant mech, which you can customize with a bunch of different pieces and use to fight in a colosseum, explore ruins for treasure, excavate fossils to save a museum, fight giant bosses, transport goods and passengers, and even turn it into an airplane to fly around in.

And that’s all in a PS2 game! Sure, all of the features are limited by both the hardware and the inclusion of so many other features, but they’re all fun, and the graphics look great. I rarely play any game more than once, and I’ve played this game well over a dozen times. It’s helped by the different endings depending on how you play your character, but even the parts that are the same between playthroughs are still fun every time. It’s my favorite game of all time by a huge margin.

DdCno1,

That does sound very interesting. I will definitely check it out. Thanks for writing this lengthy reply!

AverageGoob, do games w What are your opinions about 'handicap' features in games
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I think it would be hard to argue that having more accessibility options would be bad.

dumpsterlid,

It is all to easy to miss the immense benefits of accommodating accessibility for those of us who don’t need them though.

Most people would generally agree that NASA working on the hard problems of going into space has benefited a wide variety of industries and sciences that aren’t directly related to space travel. Most people would generally agree that athletes competing at the absolute top of a competitive sport benefits everyone who plays the sport both from developing better form and techniques and from the technology and science related to the sport becoming more competitive over time. Those benefits often extend far beyond the sport. A sports doctor being focused on getting you rehabilitated from an injury so that you can specifically play sports again might be a much more effective doctor at returning your body to health than a normal doctor who just wants to get you relatively mobile again so you can get make it into work. That sports doctor is likely using science and methodology that was developed at least partially to help professional athletes rehabilitate their injuries.

I hope we get to a point soon where most people would generally agree that accommodating accessibility needs for people with relatively “uncommon” disabilities benefits a similarly wide range of people and things. If a restaurant has to make their door wheelchair accessible, when someone has a medical emergency inside the restaurant and EMTs are trying to wheel the patient out the door as quick as possible to save their life, the effort that went into making it so someone can get into the restaurant who is in a wheelchair all of a sudden spontaneously improves the life of the victim by helping them get to the hospital faster.

This isn’t a narrative that will just happen about accessibility (especially in video games), we have to keep pointing it out to give it life.

Clbull, do games w This console generation seems skippable

I’ll wait and see what Nintendo announce, but it’s likely that I’ll be skipping this gen too.

There are very few AAA games that actually interest me right now. I have little reason to get a PS5 and even fewer reasons to buy an Xbox Series console. If hell truly freezes over and the Switch successor turns out to be a far more powerful console with better online capabilities, then I just might buy it.

hal_5700X, do games w Many players have become "patient gamers". What are games people might miss out on by waiting for sales?
@hal_5700X@lemmy.world avatar

I think the main reason more players become patient gamers is due to more and more games release broken and buggy. So they have to wait to see if the game gets fix or not.

dumpsterlid,

The main reason more people are becoming patient gamers is people are generally more broke and stressed than they have been in the past.

I think the main reason more players become patient gamers is due to more and more games release broken and buggy.

Yes this is also a reason but the reason behind that is that less and less money and creative control is being given to the workers who are actually doing the labor of making games.

We are in the middle of a massive class war being fought aggressively by the rich against the rest of us and we need to keep that front and center in every context that is affected by it. When your favorite game company gets bought out by some massive hydra of a company that promises nothing will change and then proceeds to gleefully harvest the spinal cords of all the former employees with its tentacles like a mortal kombat finishing move, remember the reason. This is an economic war and your favorite game company was just another battlefield torn to pieces.

its_me_xiphos, do gaming w What are some good games that have a bad reputation due to unreasonable expectations?

No Man’s Sky is still, in my opinion, trying to make up for what it was on release. It’s a great game now. Not my jam as I find it far too expansive for my tastes, but I can’t knock it for what it is today. I think it’s a work of art and the seamless planet travel is pretty damn cool.

De_Narm, do games w This console generation seems skippable

I mostly game on consoles, but we’re multiple years into this generation and there still isn’t anything I’m interested in that isn’t on PS4 too.

However, I’ll get the next Nintendo console. The switch was more than worth it. A steam deck could work too, I guess, but I liked quite a lot of Nintendos exclusives.

Blackmist, do games w What are some of the best mini-games youve played? (games inside games)

Gwent.

I didn’t like the standalone version, but the in-game one had just the right level of puzzle to keep me at it.

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