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Sepix, do games w First-party Switch 2 games—including re-releases—all run either $70 or $80
@Sepix@feddit.org avatar

I was REALLY looking forward to the 2 … this leaves such a sour aftertaste, it’s really unpleasant.

OtterFool, do games w First-party Switch 2 games—including re-releases—all run either $70 or $80

Always loved Nintendo, but this will be a hard pass from me.

Viri4thus, do games w First-party Switch 2 games—including re-releases—all run either $70 or $80

Fuck Nintendo.

bungle_in_the_jungle, do games w First-party Switch 2 games—including re-releases—all run either $70 or $80

Nope. That’ll be a pass from me Nintendo.

Deceptichum,
@Deceptichum@quokk.au avatar

Oh you’re going to subscribe to Nintendo Pass for $12.99 a month?

Rai,

I’ll wait for an emulator

Cethin,

Honestly, I won’t bother. I only tried a few Switch games on emulator out of curiosity, and never played long. They don’t make anything interesting enough for me to want. I don’t get why people feel the need for Nintendo.

Rai,

The mainline Zelda games were fantastic emulated, beautiful with graphics mods and at 1440p/60-120FPS! I also really enjoyed Link’s Awakening. I played Monster Hunter Rise on my regular switch for like 140 hours, but I wish I had waited for the computer version.

I’m definitely passing on Switch 2. I only ever played my Switch docked and always wished I was just playing it in the computer instead.

Agent_Karyo, do games w First-party Switch 2 games—including re-releases—all run either $70 or $80
@Agent_Karyo@lemmy.world avatar

I am not in the market for a console (my last one was the Sega Mega Drive which was abandoned after we got a Pentium 1 PC and dialup), but I got to say, I love Nintendo’s pricing policy.

It’s almost as if they are taking the piss and want to see to what extent their fans are gluttons for punishment.

One possible complicating factor for those games? While they’re physical releases, they use Nintendo’s new Game-Key Card format, which attempts to split the difference between true physical copies of a game and download codes. Each cartridge includes a key for the game, but no actual game content—the game itself is downloaded to your system at first launch. But despite holding no game content, the key card must be inserted each time you launch the game, just like any other physical cartridge.

This is full on corporate regressiveness.

Nintendo will also use some Switch 2 Edition upgrades as a carrot to entice people to the more expensive $50-per-year tier of the Nintendo Switch Online service. The company has already announced that the upgrade packs for Breath of the Wild and Tears of the Kingdom will be offered for free to Nintendo Switch Online + Expansion Pack subscribers. The list of extra benefits for that service now includes additional emulated consoles (Game Boy, Game Boy Advance, Nintendo 64, and now Gamecube) and paid DLC for both Animal Crossing: New Horizons and Mario Kart 8.

Wait so you have to subscribe to get access to emulators (which are all open source I am assuming)? And you can’t just buy a retro game (ala GOG) and play it to your heart’s content? You need a sub to Nintendo online?

whodrankarnoldpalmer,

So does this kill used game sales?

XiberKernel, (edited )

I think it kills game leaks before the street date. Even if the data isn’t in the cartridge (which is stupid), you would still be able to sell the cartage assuming the online service is still active.

Sucks for game preservation though. I’m personally hoping there’s some flaw in the gen 1 hardware that can be exploited for archive purchases.

(edit: fixed autocorrect)

Agent_Karyo,
@Agent_Karyo@lemmy.world avatar

I am assuming you can re-sell the “Game Key”.

Kelly,

Their emulators have always been proprietary. The waters were a little muddied by the NES/SNES Classic consoles using a Linux OS but the emulators were their own code.

Their FOSS code is made available when required and is published here:

support.nintendo.com/jp/oss/index.html

Agent_Karyo,
@Agent_Karyo@lemmy.world avatar

I see. I am surprised they didn’t simply take existing open source code and go with that.

PrinzKasper,
@PrinzKasper@feddit.org avatar

They likely want to avoid legitimising those existing emulators.

wuzzlewoggle,

The key card thing is seriously infuriating, both from a consumer standpoint and from a media conservation standpoint.

Basically you own a game cartridge, but as soon as Nintendo shuts down their servers for whatever reason it becomes a useless piece of plastic. They really don’t want us to own anything anymore.

MudMan,

I'm not sure that's how that works. The Switch already had both physical boxes with digital codes in them and cartridges that required mandatory downloads to run. This seems like a physical unlock key for a digital download, which depending on how it's implemented is actually easier to both resell and use offline than the Switch 1 solution to the same problem.

I don't recommend purchasing either, and I avoided both of those options on Switch 1, but I'm pretty sure this at least does not make things any worse.

I have major gripes with a number of pricing choices in this thing, but to the best of my current understanding this one is based on a misunderstanding.

catloaf,

You cannot use the unlock key, or even redownload the game, when, not if, the Switch store goes offline.

MudMan,

This is true.

It's also true of the partial download carts for Switch 1 that don't include a full playable version of the game in the cart.

Presumably the digital back-compat on the Switch 2 means the Switch will live a lot longer usual for Nintendo platforms, and we don't know if there will be a backwards compatible Switch 3.

But in practice, this is just an iteration of the Switch 1 version of the same thing. It's not great. I avoided both the mandatory download carts and will likely avoid these ones, but it's not a bigger deal than it has been for the past five years or so.

Aurenkin,

Oh wow, that cartridge thing is actually just the worst of both worlds. I’m similar to you, my last console was a Mega Drive but I did get a Switch for my wife and played a couple of games on it which was fun. Not really keen on giving Nintendo more money though.

Sixtyforce,
@Sixtyforce@sh.itjust.works avatar

So when Nintendo servers shut down, that’s it.

Nycto, do games w Satisfactory now has controller support, so there’s no excuse for your bad lines

I never offered any excuses for my bad lines.

And009, do games w Satisfactory now has controller support, so there’s no excuse for your bad lines

Now do a Mac port

libra00, do games w Satisfactory now has controller support, so there’s no excuse for your bad lines
@libra00@lemmy.world avatar

Manifolds or bust!

_stranger_,

EVEN SPLIT OR GTFO GAAAAAAH

libra00,
@libra00@lemmy.world avatar

Manifold is just compact even split.

CarbonatedPastaSauce, (edited ) do games w Satisfactory now has controller support, so there’s no excuse for your bad lines

I don’t see the point. How are you going to alt-tab back and forth between the game and Excel with a controller? Pfffft.

Edit: Do controllers even HAVE an autosum shortcut?

_stranger_,
And009,

Only peasants use 1 device. Spreadsheet be on a separate monitor

purplemonkeymad,

PC for the Game, Laptop for Satisfactory Modeller, tablet for wiki, and a paper notepad and pen for writing down numbers.

TachyonTele, do games w Satisfactory now has controller support, so there’s no excuse for your bad lines

About freaking time

potoo22, do games w Satisfactory now has controller support, so there’s no excuse for your bad lines
@potoo22@programming.dev avatar

I’m still waiting for the stable release. Mostly because I’m not prepared to lose another 200-300 hours.

Evotech,

Stable? 1.0 already dropped

arudesalad,

Controller support is in the experimental 1.1 branch

villainy, do games w Satisfactory now has controller support, so there’s no excuse for your bad lines

You’re telling me I can now comfortably play Satisfactory from my couch? This is going to have a profoundly negative effect on my health

funkajunk,
@funkajunk@lemm.ee avatar

Physical health or mental health?

Thassodar,

Yes

And009,

Life expectancy with FICSIT is projected to free fall.

MidsizedSedan,

This game made me late for work the first week I played it.

barkingspiders, do games w Satisfactory now has controller support, so there’s no excuse for your bad lines
@barkingspiders@infosec.pub avatar

like basically everything Coffee Stain puts out, it’s really well done, controller integration has been flawless so far, great game and a great team!

potoo22,
@potoo22@programming.dev avatar

I was worried about this. The game has so many hotkeys, I have no idea how a controller would handle them. Lots of contextual button mappings.

TachyonTele,

It’s not a spaceship, it’s a videogame.

Evotech,

After I played FFXIV on controller, I no longer have this worry in general. (It has 64 or so hotbar spots) Toggled by holding down with L1/L2 or both, or in reverse and some other fun stuff.

It works flawlessly

Suck_on_my_Presence,

Honestly even in Kingdom Hearts 1, there was an L1 menu for spells behind the other menus.

As a FFXIV controller player as well, it’s really not that bad.

Stovetop,

As someone who played World of Warcraft for many years using only mouse and keyboard, before moving on to FFXIV…I have never played FFXIV on mouse and keyboard and don’t even know how I could at this point >!except for the few times I do the Air Force One GATE at the Gold Saucer because the aim speed on a controller is just way too slow!<

slazer2au, do games w Satisfactory now has controller support, so there’s no excuse for your bad lines

no excuse for your bad lines

Screw you, the spaghetti must flow.

RizzRustbolt,

Bucatini Brigade, sound off!

libra00,
@libra00@lemmy.world avatar

Buca-what?

barkingspiders,
@barkingspiders@infosec.pub avatar

I think it’s a pasta joke

libra00,
@libra00@lemmy.world avatar

Ah.

TachyonTele,

Sauce?

libra00,
@libra00@lemmy.world avatar

Nuuu! You must manifold everything or you’re not playing right! /s

BoxOfFeet, do games w New Portal pinball table may be the closest we’re gonna get to Portal 3
@BoxOfFeet@lemmy.world avatar

That looks awesome. It would look a little out of place next to my other pinball machines, as they’re vintage. But I’d still love it. I don’t want to have to sell two watches to afford it, though. That’s pretty expensive.

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