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Megaman_EXE, do gaming w The games industry is screwed. [26:11]

The thing that is incredibly frustrating for me is the rising cost of games. Nintendo of all companies is starting the big push for raised game prices. Frankly, I can’t afford that. It was a stretch for games prior to this. But now I can’t justify it.

Games are currently $80 CAD. In some rare cases $90CAD. If they were bumped up by inflation from 2019 to today. Games would roughly be $96.Still hurts, but alright, sure, I get it.

But Nintendo wants to jack up games to $115 CAD. That’s a massive jump of $35 or 43% if my math is correct. And somehow, people seem to be able to afford this? It feels like I’m trapped in some kind of bubble where I’m just working poor while everyone else is making their money somehow go much further than I can.

I’m working full time, but I am supporting my family. I don’t have kids. I make well above minimum wage. I just don’t get how people are making this work unless they’re all just taking on extreme levels of debt

Kichae,

The game prices I’m ok with. When I was a kid, video games cost $70 CAD, and that’s almost $200 now. I’m perfectly OK with going back to buying fewer games. I have too many of them I shouldn’t have bought in the first place.

I’m wildly upset with the console price, in no small part because Nintendo and other electronics manufacturers seem to be trying to smooth over the shock of Dorito Don’s tariffs by increasing prices globally.

The Americans made their own bed. I’m not willing to lie in it with them.

Megaman_EXE,

Hmm when I look it up with this bank of Canada website it claims a game from 2011 that cost 60CAD would be $83 today. I’m wondering if there’s other tools I can use to cross reference? Just curious how you got to the $200 number. Maybe I’m wrong.

www.bankofcanada.ca/…/inflation-calculator/

tal,

I think that you guys may have been kids in different decades.

any1th3r3,

The only way I get to roundabout $200 now is if they are talking about 1983/84, but the NES hadn’t even released in NA back then, so that’s somewhat unlikely?

vithigar,

It’s a different example but Super Street Fighter II for the SNES was CAD$99.99 in the 1994 Sears Wishbook which is CAD$191 in today dollars.

t3rmit3,

Oh man, 2011… I’m a millennial, and even I was already out of college in 2011. My ‘kid’ games were $80 USD in the 90s. Here’s an article from 2014 that someone made about how insane N64 game prices were.

Star Fox 64 – $79.95 (Source: GamePro ) - 1997

GoldenEye 007 – $69.95 (Source: GamePro ) - 1997

Super Mario 64 – $66.99 (Source: GamePro ) - 1996

According to the CPI Inflation Calculator, $80 USD in 1997 is $160 today.

smeg,

Resist the FOMO, don’t buy a game just because it’s brand new and they paid for enough marketing that everyone’s talking about it. Go through your backlog, replay your favourites, find some cheap indies or second hand classic or free giveaways. Nobody can force you to pay through the nose for games and there’s more choice than ever before!

Megaman_EXE,

Oh for sure. I usually wait 1-3 years before buying games so that I can grab em on sale. It’s really quite rare that Nintendo games go on sale, though. So it’s kinda tough when you want to eventually play them.

I’ll sometimes buy games new, but as it is, most of my purchases are during sales. I’ve been mostly playing old titles. It just surprises me when I see statistics of Nintendo running out of pre-orders etc.

endeavor,

buy used nintendo games. Its piracy that is legal.

Krauerking,

The top 10% of the population now accounts for over 50% of all economic activity. They have a level of income and reserved cash that is hard to comprehend and that just starts at $250,000 US salary and goes up from there.
Those people are spending so freely and so completely it’s practically the entire economy and we are forced to compare ourselves to them.

The extra annoying part is that in a population of 350million people in the US, 10% is still about 35 million people. So there is more than enough of them to compare to and for companies to aim at.

The 90% of us are the working poor and it’s not that others are stretching their money more they either just don’t notice or care to look or have decided they have enough to spend freely without any consideration of whether they can afford it.

endeavor,

You just need to realize just cause they release new product does not mean you need it right away.

Theres 1000s of amazing, incredible, your favorite games you have not paid that are available for like a tenner. And you choose to spend 80-90-100+ dollars on something mediocre that will be 10 bucks in a few years anyway.

Trihilis, do gaming w The games industry is screwed. [26:11]

“Wait, you mean to tell me that growth is finite?”

Dinosaur shareholders probably.

Crankpork,

“Infinite growth” is like still believing in the Tooth Fairy, yet these people basically run the world.

Trihilis,

The amount of greed is also insane…

Imagine having millions of dollars (or billions) and having enough that even the next 3 generations of your offspring wont have to work and still wanting more.

That is why the rich need to be taxed…

Kichae, do gaming w The games industry is screwed. [26:11]

It remains so incredibly alarming to me the number of “business leaders” who looked at consumer spending in 2020/2021, looked at the global context of 2020/2021, and then went “things will now be like this forevermore,” even as other “business leaders”, and even, very often, themselves, were doing everything possible to force everyone back into a pre-COVID context.

My own employer was one of these businesses, and every time I’ve brought it up, I’ve been firmly told “everyone else thought the same thing we did, too”.

I didn’t have a whole lot of respect for business people before that, but I at least – naively, it turned out – believed they knew how to operate businesses. I now have no respect for such people whatsoever, as they’ve demonstrated completely and thoroughly, even to the point where my dumb ass can notice, that the only thing that ever “qualified” them to “run a business” was having money.

The fact that tens of thousands of people have lost their jobs because the ownership class chose to believe that they’d stumbled into an infinite growth hack is shameful, and these “leaders” deserve to be stripped of all that they own and tossed into the street.

Feyd,

Business leadership is a club with a specific culture. To be in the club you have you drink the cool aid, so unfortunately most of them have the same mentality

Megaman_EXE,

I agree completely. Over the past 5 years, I’ve noticed so many people have been able to fail upward with their businesses all because they have income that allows them to do so. It’s incredibly frustrating knowing that with the right backing, most people could likely be as successful or better.

WalnutLum,

I now have no respect for such people whatsoever, as they’ve demonstrated completely and thoroughly, even to the point where my dumb ass can notice, that the only thing that ever “qualified” them to “run a business” was having money.

It’s always heartwarming when people wake up and realize it’s capital ism and not merit ism

And you realize a lot of the books and media you’ve consumed that explicitly stated that weren’t just making a comment on a goofy side effect of that system but the entire enchilada.

Krauerking,

Ahh starting out with your parents money.
The greatest cheat code of the real world.

hanrahan,
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Intelligence? Talent? No, the ultra-rich got to where they are through luck and brutality.

www.monbiot.com/…/the-self-attribution-fallacy/

DoucheBagMcSwag, do gaming w Marathon | Gameplay Overview Trailer [YouTube, 5:03 min]

ahem

dead game.😏

CybranM, do games w Dreadmoor Sure Reminds Me A Lot of The Day Before - Second Wind

Good video! Slightly annoying that it’s one of those “group channels” with multiple creators uploading. I’d like to subscribe to this guy but then I’ll get a bunch of other random videos I don’t care for :(

CybranM, do games w Dreadmoor Sure Reminds Me A Lot of The Day Before - Second Wind

Really reminds me of Dredge, I don’t usually use the term but this really seems like a copycat game. All of this looks prerendered as well so I wonder how much of a game they actually have

inclementimmigrant, (edited )

If you watch the video, it sure does seem to be what this potential scam is banking on you noticing.

falidorn,

That’s the crux of the video.

CybranM,

Yeah I commented before I watched it. Good video though and I wonder how this ends now with him figuring out they’re from Russia and might be connected with the day before

k2r, do games w Skeletor Reveals Nintendo Switch 2

What a good laugh! He had me at « colonoscopy camera » 😂

warmaster, do games w Skeletor Reveals Nintendo Switch 2

I was expecting shit content… Oh boy was I wrong. This video was absolute bonkers hilarious. The nostalgia driven host delivers a top notch hyperbolic criticism coupled with acid sarcasm that not only hits Nintendo in the right spots but does so in a hilarious and original way.

theneverfox, do games w Why Are Gamers UPSET With The Switch 2?! - The Act Man
@theneverfox@pawb.social avatar

Because ultimately, digital goods are infinite.

They would make more money on a Mario game that costs $30 with no drm then a $90 game impossible to pirate

Blxter, do gaming w Marathon | Gameplay Overview Trailer [YouTube, 5:03 min]
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With the Linux situation I am hopeful (I’m probably coping) but there alpha sign up talked about steam deck, destiny devs have as well, and the anti cheat will not be kernel level but no idea just speculation

thingsiplay,

Don’t make yourself (and others) false hope, it will not happen. Why? In the past Bungie officially said they don’t want support Linux. This company is quiet hostile towards Linux for whatever reason. That’s why I don’t have any hope for this game to be playable on the Deck (or in Linux general for that matter).

Sure things can change sometimes, but I would not hope on this based on speculation. Not being the party pooper here, just trying to be realistic based on history.

atrielienz, do games w Why Are Gamers UPSET With The Switch 2?! - The Act Man

Some of them are just fine with the switch 2 hardware and even understand that game prices have been stagnant for some time. But Nintendo has been constantly showing us they aren’t a company we want to continue to support and if you couple that with affordability you’re gonna have a bad time.

They’re charging $90 for a game that plays better on non-oem hardware than it did on it’s original intended hardware, a game a lot of fans have already bought (who would still need to pay an additional $10 fee just to get the game running the way it probably should have run from the start).

I mean this in the best possible way, but Nintendo fans are avid collectors and they want this, but Nintendo dissuades them in multiple ways from showing support.

MyDarkestTimeline01,

I have to disagree with you on the pricing point. Just because people “understand” that pricing for games has been behind other entertainment doesn’t mean they are willing to stomach that increase. Most people buy video games as an impulse buy from their discretionary funds after bills have been paid. At the price point they are at currently it has stopped being impulse buys. This has led to so.many of the AAA failures of the past two console gens(current and last). When a brand new game costs $60(and gaining) and a weeks worth of groceries cost $100 you don’t think in terms of “will this game be fun” but instead "will this game be worth a weeks worth of groceries. And while this isn’t a problem for indies who are currently eating the lunch of the AAA pubs right in front of their faces, it will crater those legacy studios.

atrielienz,

It’s a bad time for an increase economically. But when you realize that we have been paying $60 USD for games since at least the 90’s and $60 in 90’s money is something like $150 in 2025 money, you realize just how good we’ve had it for a long time. And then take into account that games have become more and more expensive to make (yeah yeah I understand that a lot of the cost is down to a lot of non-game development relevant jobs), you don’t start to wonder why they didn’t increase prices before?

I’m not saying we like it. I’m saying that anyone who’s given it some thought can see why they might want to increase prices.

MyDarkestTimeline01,

No one with sense is saying that they wouldn’t want to increase prices. The debate is whether or not the publishers who are pushing for higher cost of games realize that the higher it goes the less sales they’re actually going to make. Because again it doesn’t matter if the consumer knows why the cost has gone up or not. It’s a matter of whether or not the cost is going to seem justifiable for the customer. And that’s the rub everyone keeps saying that oh games should cost more game should cost more. The problem with that statement is after a certain price point games are no longer going to be a hobby purchase. They’re no longer going to be that impulse buy that they’ve survived on. They’re going to be that thing where you end up waiting for it to go below $25 or for it to be a runaway smash hit that everyone is telling you is a great game. And that isn’t even to say that good games are always going to cost more money look at Balatro, look at schedule 1, look at Repo. These are games that were made on shoestring budgets that players enjoyed. The problem with ballooning costs isn’t that games are getting bank breakingly expensive to make. It’s that risk averse publishers and investors are chasing trends that players have moved on from and they no longer are made up of people who actually play games.

Walican132, do games w Skeletor Reveals Nintendo Switch 2

Now that was funny. I don’t know why this absolutely had me laughing pretty much from the moral compass line on. I don’t get all the hype for silk song I haven’t tried hollow knight but the way it was glossed over was funny and I haven’t seen anyone else bring that up.

SolidShake, do games w Why Are Gamers UPSET With The Switch 2?! - The Act Man

Because the cost, gimmicky useless features, overpriced, expensive games, pay to play big title last Gen games with no improvements to them, a fake 120hz screen (games won’t run at 120fps on this console btw), last last Gen hardware equivalent, non hall sensors for the controllers, pro 1 controller won’t work, lost goes on and on.

zipzoopaboop,

I already have a steam deck, so there’s another reason not to

Sebastrion,

Good points but not all of them are correct, the Switch 1 controller does work and there are games running at 120Hz (even if it will be mostly Indie games in the future.)

SolidShake,

I have been corrected. Appreciate the knowledge homie

The_Che_Banana, do gaming w Marathon | Gameplay Overview Trailer [YouTube, 5:03 min]

Looks pretty but probably the same old formula, and I’m sure micro transactions and a 90$ price tag (with the push being cheaper than GTA 6).

thingsiplay,

You can bet it will have micro transactions like a free to play game, but with an additional premium full price on top of it.

Virkkunen,
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Bungie already confirmed it won't be a "full priced game", so probably it's 40€

Midnitte, do gaming w Marathon | Gameplay Overview Trailer [YouTube, 5:03 min]

It has nothing to do with the original Marathon game its based on, an old single player game.

I wouldn’t entirely say that - it seems like it will be a reboot, so a lot of the same plot or ideas will resurface

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