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ZeroHora, do gaming w PROOF: VALVE IS RIPPING EVERY PC GAMER OFF.
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This dude again? His other video about valve has so many mistakes

Edit: Btw I think this deserve a thumbs down for the clickbait hyperbole shit title alone.

101,
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Like what?

Btw, he has his sources in the description.

ZeroHora,
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Well the biggest offender for me was “steam operation cost near zero while their cut is 30% for the publishers”.

That’s just a lie.

101,
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You are dropping the context to that claim, he was comparing it to other companies.

ZeroHora,
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The only way this is marginally correct is if he is comparing to the money needed to create an AAA title. And in the end the company making the AAA title will have the cost operation to host/distribute and have all the others features Valve offers if they decide to do it in their own storefront.

conciselyverbose,

Also look how much of their “development costs” are actually marketing budget. They fully recognize that increasing sales is worth paying heavily for, and steam increases sales by meaningfully more than you’re paying them (which is why every AAA publisher who experiments with leaving comes back).

conciselyverbose,

The fun part is, unless you’re doing stuff that’s extremely shady, they’ll basically give you as many keys as you want to sell the game externally. Of the hundreds of games in my Steam library, it’s a very small fraction that have been purchased through Steam, or that they’ve made any money on. Their 30% is closer to a commission than a platform fee, and a 30% commission on a product that’s all margin isn’t unusual.

And people use Steam because they’re actually way better than any other option. The “freedom” platforms like GOG can’t be bothered even having a client support Linux, while Valve invested a good bit into working with community projects to make most of their (already sold about as much as they’re going to) back catalogue compatible and smooth. Steam input is also, by itself, more value added than any other store, and there are several other meaningful features.

thingsiplay, do gaming w PROOF: VALVE IS RIPPING EVERY PC GAMER OFF.

Valve and Steam is actually the best thing happened to PC Gaming and Linux. No thanks, I want Valve and Steam succeed. I’ve seen the same claims over and over again and most of the time its wrong or disingenuous. I’m not saying Valve is a prophet, off course there are things I don’t like about.

But saying Valve is ripping every PC gamer is a lie.

ZeroHora,
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What I found most interesting is that the real alternative of cutting down Valve is giving the money that Valves make to multiple others shittier companies. In the end of the day the money will not go to the people that’s actually work on the game.

thingsiplay,

I want to give Valve money, not 100% he publisher. Why? Because Valve is actively working on Open Source and improving PC gaming (and even creating new devices and games). Unlike shops like Game Jolt, who just cuts part of the money for selling it on their platform.

nondescripthandle, do gaming w PROOF: VALVE IS RIPPING EVERY PC GAMER OFF.

So bad it can only be told in a youtube video apparently. Hard pass, you’re not trying to spread awareness, you’re trying to farm engagement.

dinckelman, do gaming w PROOF: VALVE IS RIPPING EVERY PC GAMER OFF.

This topic has already been covered to death, and literally everyone in the industry has proven practically every point in this video wrong.

This kind of video is the pinnacle of “source? trust me bro” behavior

101, (edited )
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  • He have his sources in the video description, so it’s not a “trust me bro” behavior.
  • Who exactly proven that every point in this video is wrong? Can you name people? Your comment sources are literally “trust me bro”.
Flaqueman,

The sources include judges ruling that “no, Valve did nothing wrong”.

CaptainBasculin, do gaming w PROOF: VALVE IS RIPPING EVERY PC GAMER OFF.

Valve does provide a better ecosystem for the players compared to other platforms, and it has a bigger reach. Its %30 is fair. Itch, Epic and GOG all offer less features for less cost to developers.

Max_P, (edited ) do gaming w PROOF: VALVE IS RIPPING EVERY PC GAMER OFF.
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I would literally donate money directly to Valve if I could for all the good selfless work they’re doing.

Their work on sponsoring DXVK, and Proton’s development, their contributions to make the AMD drivers even more awesome, gamescope, they’ve been driving all the HDR and VR work on Linux, and now they’re also getting even more hands on with Wayland through frog-protocols.

Meanwhile the others are either doing nothing at all except selling the games, or actively sabotaging Linux gaming and furthering Microsoft’s monopoly like Epic Games is doing with their intrusive anti-cheat.

Being on Steam is being strongly pro-consumer and the first thing a developer not publishing on Steam does to me is make sure I’m very unlikely to buy their games because at least on Steam I know I won’t get ripped off.

Couldn’t care less about whiny developers complaining they make slightly less millions in sales for overpriced AAA games, and still impose their own launcher and shit because they only treat Steam like a store and nothing else. I pick what’s good for the players not the developers. If they’re unhappy there’s dozens of indie developers in line to pick up the slack willing to make games I’m willing to pay for.

EDIT: And a couple hours later, Valve delivers once again: …archlinux.org/…/RIZSKIBDSLY4S5J2E2STNP5DH4XZGJMR…

10_0, do gaming w PROOF: VALVE IS RIPPING EVERY PC GAMER OFF.

Great video with good points, we’ll have to see if the monopoly stays good for gamers in the next 10 years, its pretty obv from the video that the status quo is great for valve and good for gamers, but horrible for competition in the platform space. Valve is a monopoly like how android and ios are a duopoly. Great for customers and the companies around the OS’s, bad for competition in the market. (Does competition matter if a monopoly it benefits the customer?)

umami_wasbi, do gaming w PROOF: VALVE IS RIPPING EVERY PC GAMER OFF.

Oh. Steam tried to rip gamers off so hard that they removed forced arbitration clauses and class action waivers from their terms of service.

Steam is a monopoly no doubt, but it’s not a result of major anti-competitive behavior, but simply because others can’t match it.

conciselyverbose,

To be fair they did that because law firms were seeking out frivolous arbitration bullshit to try to extort them into settlements.

But their market dominance is definitely primarily about how much better they are than anything else.

umami_wasbi,

But the outcome is good for me at least and I’m satisfied.

geekwithsoul, do gaming w PROOF: VALVE IS RIPPING EVERY PC GAMER OFF.

This _ might_ be the dumbest take I’ve ever seen. Clearly someone made up their mind to hate Valve and everything they see just confirms their existing biases, reality be dammed.

lemat_87, do musiczka w Lady Gaga śpiewa Sinatrę
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Franek zawsze na propsie muzycznie, za to niefajnie, że zaczął popierać Reagana mimo, że w młodości był demokratą.

Mitro,
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Ooo nie wiedziałam

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tal, do gaming w Lost Records: Bloom & Rage First Look Accolade Trailer
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OP, you might want to manually clean that up.

I wish that the Lemmy Web UI “suggest title” code would do one of:

  • Translate HTML entities to their Unicode equivalent, which is what the Web UI actually wants in that field
  • Change the Lemmy Web UI’s title field to support HTML entities.

I have to manually clean up titles myself on a not-irregular basis, usually because of various dash-like characters, like em- or en-dashes, or typographic quotes.

SweetCitrusBuzz,
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Thank you! Did that fix it?

tal,
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Oddly-enough, it doesn’t on lemmy.today’s Web UI, but it looks fine on beehaw.org’s Web UI. Not sure if there’s some sort of problem with propagating updates, or if it just takes a while, but I reckon that you’ve done the right thing if it looks fine now on the instance hosting the community.

Thanks!

SweetCitrusBuzz,
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Oh, it’s because Beehaw wants to move away from lemmy and onto sublinks when it is done, and are stuck on this version of lemmy until it is as upgrading would break things as they are now from our understanding.

bjoern_tantau, do gaming w Baldur’s Gate 3: Modding Mayhem - An Animated Short
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I wonder how long it will take until all the mods shown are available.

MarcomachtKuchen, do gaming w Baldur’s Gate 3: Modding Mayhem - An Animated Short

Love these animated series. The one with the frog was incredible aswell.

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