For the benefit of people that can't watch this horrible video:
This is really about them being able to change the already extremely vague terms of service and you having no recourse other than voiding your purchase if you don't like it. There is some focus on a gun thing early on, but it's just an example where they flip-flopped multiple times over the years based on vague wording in the ToS that was changed after the fact. Commercial modded server owners were the main ones that had to make changes because of that rule, often taking guns away from players that had them, but it's generally enforced very inconsistently.
But the main thing they're focusing on in the lawsuit is the mass deletion of legitimately bought Minecraft copies when they stopped Mojang account migration in 2023 (everyone that didn't migrate then no longer owns Minecraft according to Microsoft; no refunds). That, too, was effectively a one-sided ToS change. And to make matters worse, the old ToS had an explicit clause that you could keep playing the game in singleplayer even without agreeing to any new ToS.
This lawsuit is being done in Sweden. I don't know if this kind of ToS/contract validity has actually been tested there before.
I think this is the first time I ever watched a video at 0.5 speed. "this was done due to retention purposes for the video to maximize spread potential". Yeeeaaaah. No. Checked reddit, it's downvoted to the negatives over form. Checked a different place that would be all over this, entire topic is discussing the form and there's not one mention of what it's about because nobody got that far. The exact kind of person that might take time out of their day to join a class action is not going to watch this garbage. I think it's good to have this tested, but I straight up don't trust this guy. Supposedly maximizing views while getting zero information through to anyone is not going to help the cause.
i hope he wins the lawsuit (the forced migration with no refunds was very bad), but dammit that guy sounds insufferable.
in the first video, one of his main motivators for starting the lawsuit, was that he made a server with guns, mojang made servers with guns against their eula, but just after this guy paid the 1000$ for the twitter gold checkmark on his server’s account…
mojang making shitty eula decisions sucks, but is it grounds to sue? idk
Going to copy my post over from the original for anyone wondering why because the description does nothing to explain:
I watched a few minutes of it and finally got to it… If I got it right, the guy suing them wanted to make a mod with guns. Mojang said no and got it shut down. He’s suing because he believes a company shouldn’t have any say over how users might modify their games.
there’s 11 pages of results if you search “gun” through Modrinth, you’re absolutely correct
the marketplace is “curated” mods, if the guy wants to make paid mods that go against the “curation” he’s gotta make a patreon or something, and handle his own marketing for it
Which was what was done with the weather mod. Mojang didn’t like it because what people really want for weather mod is hurricanes, mojang don’t like anything too destructive like that which you can kind of understand, you can’t really do a normal playthrough with it on.
It makes it a totally different game.
But I don’t think anyone really cared and I don’t think it’s had a particularly adverse effect on the mod developer, they’ve got plenty of backers I doubt there’s any interest in suing mojang over it.
Probably why he wanted to sue in the first place but the actual lawsuit is over deleting minecraft accounts that didn’t migrate to Microsoft accounts. That restriction was not present in the original TOS, and seems to be illegal to change without the user accepting a new TOS (that isn’t forced under threat of deleting what you own).
I love the “you can’t modify my mod because it undermines authoritative intent” and then modifying things like the standing stones because “oh, that’s not the way it’s supposed to work.” Obviously he doesn’t even believe what he says. He just says whatever he needs to to “win” like a true narcissist.
Dude, Arthmoor’s behavior is so fucking shitty and the way he types makes him sound so god damn smug it makes my blood boil. Some people get the smallest amount of power, like being in charge of a fucking mod, and they lose their fucking minds
Edit: the one down vote must be from the man, the myth, the cunt himself: Arthmoor
Ever since he got control of the patch, it made him kind of “authoritative”, even looking pretty in the eyes of Bethesda 'cause he thinks himself as more “loremonger” than the loremakers, but really flipped his lid upon seeing Obama won.
Lmao, the way the video is cut made it impossible to watch, it’s so bad. Why cut every pause between Words, that is probably a lot of work to make the video shitier.
Almost all YouTubers do it, especially video essayists and vloggers. I think they’re cutting out anytime they pause or say “um” to keep the video going so there’s not a lot of bullshit.
Arthmoor is emblematic of the shitty mod authors everywhere, so many of them have massive egos, and exhibit behaviour that’s antithetical to the idea of modding.
Not just mods but also other fanworks – such as fanfiction, fanart, etc. – in that creatives will go to great lengths to protect their work, and start huge flamewars, despite being obviously derivative reinterpretation of the original.
Im happy to see them reflect on their first video which i disliked quite a bit. I got about halfway through this one and its pretty good, though not that interesting to me anymore. I hope that summer eternal project does well though! looks the most interesting of the offshoot studios to me
Listening to this on and off between meetings and been vaguely aware of the bullshit over the years (also apparently rampant transphobia) so not sure if this gets addressed in the video but:
ARE there good options if I want bugfixes for Bethesda games without all the “extras”? Back in the day I needed wryebash (?) and the like to have any chance of running my giant Morrowind stack. These days? I just want to play mostly the base game but with less run ending jank.
If you want to just play Morrowind. OpenMW is the start and end of your needs. Optionally the I heart vanilla modpack. Which is basically just visual updates and minor fixes.
The game feels and plays like vanilla. But with less cashing and bugs.
Good fucking luck for oblivion or Skyrim. I got nothing.
Okay. I am not familiar with Knudsen but holy crap at the number of times he has said “All the good will the community had for arthmoor and the unofficial patch had finally run out. But NEXT TIME, NEXT TIME people won’t be so forgiving…”. Also very much not a fan of the editorializing when he highlights the text from a forum post but does word replacement or puts on a nasty voice.
And I assume the constant Argonian face zoom ins are arthmoor’s avatar or something but… I just kind of giggle every time I look up and see that arg-O-face.
Very informative video but he is no Jacob Gellar or Joseph Anderson. Also… putting some barriers in the way of my half-baked plan to replay the TES series over the next few years. Was really hoping my days of spending hours making mod lists was over.
Back on Reddit, there were even complaints that EA's anticheat was conflicting with Riot's anticheat. Yep, now you potentially need two different installations of Windows to run each of your games. At this point, you would need to buy several SSDs and a SSD extension (or an external USB reader, since USB speeds nowadays are relatively fast enough to afford running those games from an external drive), then install each game (and operative system) in a different one, and swap between them before booting, just like a cartridge. Same would go, of course, for your actual main GNU/Linux drive that contains your actual personal data - that way, the anticheat can't even see your personal information, as it'd physically unplugged from your computer. And since Windows checks the license per motherboard, not per drive, you should be able to recycle the activation key between your Valorant "cartridge" and your Battlefield "cartridge". At this point, paying for a dedicated game console and the online pass starts becoming attractive...
...That, or just boycott multiplayer games altogether. If your group of friends doesn't mind, of course.
Didn’t this only happen if you tried to run both games at the same time, which realistically should never be happening? The only time this might trigger is if one anti-cheat misses or drops the command to close for whatever reason and keeps running while the game is closed and you go to play the other game instead.
Both anti-cheats could just whitelist each other, though. Anti-cheats already have software whitelists, there is no reason they can’t add each other. That automatically solves the problem without the consumer or developer needing to do anything other than update their software to the newest version.
I am still baffled that anyone thinks that Kernel AC is any kind of effective at stopping hacks, people have been literally making a living off of defeating it, and selling those hacks / methods for almost a decade now…
But nope, still got hordes of idiot gamers who think they work, think they’re necessary, think they can’t be spoofed.
Not sure how you could read this and come away with the idea that I do believe that…
I am talking about the subset of gamers that go on internet forums and discord servers and make false, unsupported claims as to the effectiveness or necessity or Kernel AC over other forms of AC, tell people this just is how it is now, get with the program, eat the bugs, play the spyware game, its fine, everyone is doing it.
Indirectly buyers are making a decision on anticheat. If someone buys a game with anticheat, they’ve made the decision to reward the developer for making the decision to include anticheat.
We have to ask the question if cheat developing wasn’t profitable, and even if developers actually operated at a loss, would there be as many cheats on the market as there are now?
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