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DoucheBagMcSwag, do gaming w Steam Deck is the ❝Biggest Threat❞ to Xbox [Fan The Deck]

I used to like Fan the Deck before he got super popular. In the past…like 6 or 7 months he’s turned into a clickbait whore and became like Deck Ready (the OG clickbait whore Steam Deck channel)

thingsiplay,

I don’t agree that Fan the Deck became too much clickbait. I know Deck Ready too and its incredibly bad with his clickbait. Stopped watching Deck Ready. But regardless of the title in this video from Fan the Deck, I had same expectations as you, if you watch the content then the title makes sense and is not clickbait. I agree on every point and the recap he did in the beginning too.

Regardless what you think, if I am paid to write this or not, I mean it when I say this video title is not misleading clickbait.

DoucheBagMcSwag, (edited )

I did not watch deck ready because they are clickbait whores from just a glance… But I wanted a SD focused news alternative and found fan the deck from searching around for a similar steam deck focused channel and it was a breath of fresh air. Now he posts shit titles like “Steam Deck Problem” with BEWARE big letters on the thumbnail. get. the fuck. out. I unsubscribed after that video. If I have to use DE-ARROW to see what your video is about (and his videos have started to been “de-arrowed” as viewers are probably sick of it too) you’re gone.

The GOAT though IMO is Dragonware Decaf. Lisa knows her shit. She doesn’t do news but she does SD tutorials

thingsiplay,

Always good to have good recommendations. I subscribed to her channel and will watch a few videos before coming to any conclusion.

DoucheBagMcSwag,

Cryobyte33 is good too. But he’s been dormant lately (Dev of CryoTools)

thingsiplay,

I like when he talks about the Steam Deck, but he talked too much about other handhelds and accessories. Plus most of his talks are about (software) modding the Deck, which I am not doing much. That’s why I unsubscribed, but not because it is bad, I’m just not the target. Seems like he stopped posting because I unsubscribed… :D But I recommend anyone reading these replies to look at his YouTube channel and watch some older videos. They are quite interesting and go in depth in some of them:

helenslunch,
@helenslunch@feddit.nl avatar

This is the way YouTube likes it, unfortunately

zurohki,

Praise be to the mighty algorithm.

tacosanonymous, do gaming w Steam Deck is the ❝Biggest Threat❞ to Xbox [Fan The Deck]

Meh. They are their own worst enemy. If you’re going to make a console, you have to give people reasons to buy it. Their lack of console selling games isn’t the steam deck’s fault.

I thought the ps3 might kill Sony’s console dreams but they buckled down and delivered with the ps4.

M$ can salvage this, if they genuinely reflect and start delivering.

thingsiplay,

The video content isn’t talking about the current market or the past, but how Steam Deck is the biggest threat to Xbox in the future. Xbox has a lot of potential. The leadership changed (which is addressed in this video too). When Microsoft was at its worse, Steve Ballmer was the boss of Microsoft and Don Mattrick was ruining Xbox in the ground with XBox One. Now we have Satya Nadella and have Spencer, who did bring back the Xbox brand and seem to understand their stuff better.

narc0tic_bird,

Sony also built up momentum during the second half of the PS3’s lifespan by focusing on what’s most important for a games console: games. And they made the PS3 more affordable and therefore accessible with a great, focused PS3 redesign in form of the PS3 Slim, saving costs while only cutting features that weren’t really important to most potential customers (PS2 backwards compatibility).

They took that momentum, watched Microsoft fail and made a home run with the PS4 based on the perfect storm that was created.

The PS5 was simply a continuation of their good form, and Microsoft has just been going along with their Xbox brand and consoles, seemingly not knowing where to go, buying studios left and right which then proceed to release mediocre titles. They also tried something with their subscription service, but it turns out most people just buy the games they want to play instead of picking from a selection of games of which they wouldn’t have chosen most of them if they weren’t included in a subscription.

warm,

After being away from consoles for a long time now, they really have little appeal beyond their easy setup and cheaper hardware. The exclusives on any console are not worth buying a whole new console to play. There's so much more value in PC gaming, the intial barrier of entry and possible technical problems just put people off.

I really think Steam Machines could make a major comeback now, the deck has proved the software side, SteamOS is much more mature.

DebatableRaccoon,

I couldn’t agree more. Back during the initial pitches of the Steam Machines, I was a supporter of the concept and was looking forward to the release. In my market, they took a long time to release and ended up being stupidly expensive. To give an idea, in my market an i3-powered unit was expensive as an i7-powered one in the US despite not having that problem with PC components or even prebuilts. Eventually I spent the money on a parts to build my own rig that was significantly more capable than what the Steam Machine of equal cost would have been. I found little ways to make being a couch PC gamer viable without breaking the bank on horribly expensive niche products like lapboards and it’s enabled me to become a PC gamer despite having been a console boy for so long. It’s a shame because I think Steam Machines would make PC gaming so much more approachable to the average consumer (which I was at the time) and I hope they still manage to in the future.

narc0tic_bird,

Oh I agree with that and I’m a PC gamer 99 % of the time (well, like 95 % desktop PC, 4.5 % Steam Deck, 0.5 % consoles). I mainly use my PS5 for playing BluRay nowadays. I don’t fancy paying more for games, a subscription for online gaming and getting a worse experience (in terms of graphics/performance and things like modding but also voice chat options etc.).

Kolanaki, do gaming w Steam Deck is the ❝Biggest Threat❞ to Xbox [Fan The Deck]
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Microsoft is the biggest threat to Xbox.

bigkahuna1986, do gaming w Steam Deck is the ❝Biggest Threat❞ to Xbox [Fan The Deck]

Naturally Microsoft will respond by further enshittifying their own platform then just buying up the competitors to save themselves.

waybackguy, do games w SCHiM - Release Date Trailer
@waybackguy@lemmy.world avatar

Looks unique. I love platformers. I’d play.

DmMacniel, do gaming w The Story of the Oregon Trail

Those three teachers are role models. To them it wasn’t about the money, they want the world to learn.

GammaGames,

I’m so glad someone took the time to put together a doc about them!!

porkchop, do gaming w The Story of the Oregon Trail

Ily, Gaming Historian 😍

Carighan, do games w [Gamers Nexus] The MSI Claw is a Mess: Gaming Handheld Can't Compete | Review & Benchmarks
@Carighan@lemmy.world avatar

I already got stuck on the name tbh.

I really don’t get how the “Claw” is not a keypad for the left hand or a mouse. Both would be things a gamer might intuitively think of as a “claw” thing. A gaming handheld?! Why? Because you apparently got the hardware out of a claw machine?!

hal_5700X,

Because it sounds cool. 🤷‍♂️

Carighan,
@Carighan@lemmy.world avatar

Well yeah, sure, if your target audience is 8 years old. I guess. 🤷

caut_R,

With how many, many, many gamer targeted products look, apparently the target audience is 8 y/o. Idk if it helps or hurts sales.

hal_5700X,

Will MSI’s mascot is dragon. Maybe what’s why it’s called Claw.

Carighan,
@Carighan@lemmy.world avatar

Damn, I thought MSI’s mascot was more or less officially the bluescreen? 😛 Didn’t know they changed that.

Grass,

HAH! Ya gottem!

Dangy,
@Dangy@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

A blue screen with built-in artifacts!

sends GPU for RMA again

zecg,
@zecg@lemmy.world avatar

Sounds like what you get from ulnar nerve entrapment

CalcProgrammer1, do gaming w The Story of the Oregon Trail
@CalcProgrammer1@lemmy.ml avatar

Watched this the other day, great documentary! I played Oregon Trail 2 in school in the 90’s and we ended up getting it for our home PC. Nice to learn the history behind the game in such detail.

GammaGames, (edited ) do gaming w The Story of the Oregon Trail

Bit if a long doc, but I thought it was worth the time!

dadarobot, do gaming w Finally, a push to end the practice of killing games when a dev decides they don't wanna support them
@dadarobot@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

Didnt watch this specific video, but the solution seems simple to me. Just release the server software. Bonus points to open source it.

mundane,

I agree with this but I suspect that a lot of the backend is dependent on other in-house infrastructure so it’s not as easy as most people think.

dadarobot,
@dadarobot@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

Yes, but hiring some devs to modify the code to be run on a home server could be seen as an investment towards saving the cost of running the servers themselves.

If a company is going broke and cant afford to port the code to a home market, they could simply open source it, and let the fans do the work.

And as i mentioned to the other guy, i think this should be the law.

Katana314,

Worse, it might depend on licensed infrastructure. Maybe a company can stand giving away their proprietary server, but they can’t legally give away a library toolkit they purchased a $300,000 non-transferable license for. That kind of middleware is extremely common in the industry.

Fribbtastic,

I would recommend watching the video…

What you say is “easy” is great for a comment on Reddit or Lemmy but it doesn’t really provide anything to the actual problem.

The problem is that a company “just” doesn’t, why would they do this anyway? It would open their IP to be forked, modified and used for something else by someone else. That isn’t what they want you to do.

Since there is no incentive and no one is forcing them to do this they just keep doing whatever they want. It was mentioned in the video that there is absolutely no regulation or anything in that regard available ANYWHERE in the world, not even in the EU.

THIS is what the video and Ross Scott want to achieve, that there either will be regulations for it so that Game developers and Publishers can’t just create games with some mandatory server backend running that is shut down in a couple of years OR that there is at least some way of saying “well, we don’t care” so that the consumer can actually do anything about it on their own end.

So it is easy to say they “just” have to do X or Y but the past and the increasing games relying on things like this have shown that they won’t do anything about it because nothing is stopping them.

dadarobot,
@dadarobot@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

Don’t misunderstand me, I absolutely think there should be regulation over this. I’m saying ultimately if a company wants to discontinue a service they should be forced by law to release the server software. That way the player base can still use the product they paid money for.

systemglitch,

Did you watch the video?

vanderbilt, do games w [Gamers Nexus] The MSI Claw is a Mess: Gaming Handheld Can't Compete | Review & Benchmarks
@vanderbilt@lemmy.world avatar

Incredible how OEMs keep fumbling this. Just give me a Steam Deck with prosumer performance and decent battery. Accomplish that how you want. Slap SteamOS on it then let me buy it. No, I don’t want to figure out Armor Crate or MSI launcher or whatever. I just want to play games without having to babysit the thing.

zecg, do games w [Gamers Nexus] The MSI Claw is a Mess: Gaming Handheld Can't Compete | Review & Benchmarks
@zecg@lemmy.world avatar

It has the giant sadness installed, so it can fuck right off. I’m not buying hardware that doesn’t come with Linux anymore, I’ve been burnt before by their driver negligence / sabotage.

caut_R, do games w [Mod] Fallout London - Next-Gen Update Announcement

Would making it a torrent be a bad thing? Since they were worried about hosting.

dracs,

I wouldn’t be surprised if they made a torrent for it. They probably want a simple download button for the less technically inclined too.

hal_5700X, do games w [Mod] Fallout London - Next-Gen Update Announcement

Don’t be like The Frontier. Please be good.

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