Nintendo keeps shooting themselves in the foot. On one hand, as a PCMRer and massive fan of Valve, I’m glad to see how many are open to moving over here. On the other hand, Nintendo was the last console manufacturer I actually liked (despite their anti-emulation crusade) and so it’s like a death of an era.
The future really is in console-like PCs a la the Steam Deck and Valve’s upcoming Fremont.
I believe that’s correct. And as others have pointed out this is likely an anti-scalping measure which changes my view on it.
I do however hope they will keep a good stock of them. Having to be a subscriber is annoying enough but even when I was one I was never able to be quick enough when N64 ones went back in stock.
So there will not be a way to play it when they eventually turn off their online service for the console. Uh huh. They were what we thought were the last bastions of protecting content/games, now… yeah, okay, they are just shooting themselves in the foot again and again here.
Then they’re all shocked Pikachu that people are so determined to emulate them. You know what games aren’t being jailbroken en masse right now? Steam games. Because the store has been trustworthy since day one. They may break that trust but it hasn’t happened yet.
I think that’s my point, that they’ve built such a easy to use trustworthy store that everyone just buys it because what’s the point of stealing anything from them. Vs Nintendo when that’s the first thing people start working on.
I mean, PC games are constantly pirated across the world, but Steam has done things right. Switch games somewhat, although the difficulty means it’s not that popular.
I mean, it’s Nintendo - if there was a way to somehow automatically charge your card every time you say, hear or think the words “Nintendo”, “Mario” and such, they’d do it without hesitation…
unless you stumble on a brick, fall down and accidentally install a rp2040 on the switch, then accidentally flash picofly when trying to understand what’s going on
At least it gives people who are using their switches a chance to buy one, instead of them selling out in seconds to a network of bot accounts before winding up on eBay for $300+ the following week.
It’s not the perfect system, but I can understand why they are doing it.
I mean, there’s plenty of reasons to not like Nintendo, but this whole thing is because the GameCube coming to their Online subscription. So I mean… it makes sense.
I don’t need it to play Smash with friends on the couch.
Really I shouldn’t need the subscription for GC ports either. What’s wrong with making them individual purchases like on the 3DS? (Answer: that’s not monthly recurring revenue.)
Nintendo opting to forgo selling retro games piecemeal and instead expecting consumers to rent access to them in perpetuity is an anti-consumer move.
I have no problem paying for games when they’re sold at affordable, reasonable prices, so until that’s the case for Nintendo’s library, better to just emulate as much of it as possible.
Sure, but that’s a different issue; I agree with that. Don’t forget that if you even are allowed to ‘buy’ them, they will close the online service for that platform in the future with no guarantee you can use it on another platform.
They must enter a unique switch serial number (that corresponds with inventory) to make the purchase? Don’t see why it has to be contigent on a subscription.
That would work if serial numbers weren’t visible without even opening the box the device came in, and I’m they are even included on the receipt for the device. Scalpers would absolutely have a ton of serial numbers just lying around from unsold devices, or even devices they sold and just hope the owner of won’t bother attempting a purchase of the thing they are scalping.
Lemmy on Nintendo: “Why should I pay for online play?! It needs to be free, moderated, and exist indefinitely even after the obsolescence of the product. Otherwise, I’m entirely justified in pirating everything.”
Or search on Etsy for a refurbished controller and just use an adapter to connect it to PC. Though many sellers only sell Phob GCC. It’s a modded GC controller with a custom motherboard. It uses Hall Effect sensors so the sticks will never ever experience drift. It’s expensive though. Like here is a fancy one for $325 sagecustomcontrollers.com/products/phob-gcc
Does it make sense? Emulation is going to happen one way or another. If Nintendo sold a GC controller that is PC compatible, they’d at least make some money from those buyers.
It will. But for the first run you don’t want people buying the console and paying for the switch GameCube access to have to ability to buy a GC controller. It’s like how for sports teams season ticket holders usually get some first access to buy playoff tickets.
I mean there’s nothing inherently wrong with that (if only they charged last-gen prices as well lol)
but anyways here’s a bunch more shit they’ve done:
charging full price for basic rereleases
removing reviews from the switch eshop
killing emulation projects
patenting basic gameplay elements
sued a man so hard he was forced to pay them part of his income for the rest of his life
and for a few older ones, just to show that they’ve been shitty this whole time, actually:
attempting to kill game cheating devices (like the game genie)
attempting to kill video game rentals
preventing 3rd parties from releasing games on competitor’s consoles, essentially giving themselves a monopoly
(also they’re partly owned by the saudi government, so, there’s that)
(and pls remember that, despite all of their shit, nintendo is far from the worst. it’s a systemic problem, not an individualist one. remember that ubisoft covered up sexual assault for years and that microsoft is literally engaging in genocide. the problem is that capitalism lets these companies get away with it.)
It’s ironic considering their early days in gaming. They were targeted by Universal over a BS lawsuit for using “Kong” in Donkey Kong and him being a gorilla like King Kong.
Now they’re pulling the same crap on smaller people/businesses and also working with the very company who did the lawsuit to bring their games to the movies.
They are the only real family oriented console AFAIK. At least on PC, there isn’t a huge emphasis on local coop. This makes a steam deck a harder sell to people just looking for the casual family games. Nintendo on the other hand is committed to releasing games like this with every generation, and they don’t seem big on games with a restrictive age rating. I’m sure that wins points with parents.
I’d love to tell families that they should just buy a steam deck, but I don’t know if it’s the right choice TBH.
The Nintendo GameCube (GCN) Controller – Nintendo Classics will be exclusively available for Nintendo Switch Online members and will initially only be offered to those invited to pre-order a Nintendo Switch 2 console
Does this suggest I can buy it later or am I going to have to pay scalper price if I want it?
I think you’ll always need NSO sub if buying directly from Nintendo, but pre-order rule only seems to be because of scalpers, so that only those who can actually use it, buy it.
Hence the reason to try and get yuzu and the other emulators to stop being out there. They know theyre just hosing their customer base and needed to try and minimize the damage they will do to themselves
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