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other_cat, do games w Square Enix says it wants generative AI to be doing 70% of its QA and debugging by the end of 2027
@other_cat@piefed.zip avatar

Was gonna make a post with this article but this is related so I’ll drop it here instead.

“Square Enix is laying off more developers in the UK and US as it refocuses on Japan
The publisher has expressed interest in replacing development roles with AI”

https://www.engadget.com/gaming/square-enix-is-laying-off-more-developers-in-the-uk-and-us-as-it-refocuses-on-japan-201907305.html

MrNesser, do games w Square Enix says it wants generative AI to be doing 70% of its QA and debugging by the end of 2027

Not buying their next game it will be a nightmare

ArchmageAzor, do games w Square Enix says it wants generative AI to be doing 70% of its QA and debugging by the end of 2027
@ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world avatar

A year from now they’ll be wondering why their games are so buggy.

I_Jedi,

“The players are obviously insane and confused. The AI is always right.”

Bakkoda, do games w Square Enix says it wants generative AI to be doing 70% of its QA and debugging by the end of 2027

Realistic goal considering they already do so little QA.

JeeBaiChow, do games w Square Enix says it wants generative AI to be doing 70% of its QA and debugging by the end of 2027

Lol. Good luck!

VeryInterestingTable, do games w Square Enix says it wants generative AI to be doing 70% of its QA and debugging by the end of 2027

QA annnnd Debugging?

LLMs have a much better chance at succesfuly replacing whoever said that.

Skullgrid,
@Skullgrid@lemmy.world avatar

the LLMs can barely make fucking working code, let alone test it

Flickerby, do games w Square Enix says it wants generative AI to be doing 70% of its QA and debugging by the end of 2027

And I thought I had no more disappointment left to allocate

pirateKaiser,

It’s just that you’ve reached your free quota, further disappointments will be charged 0.0937 emotional stability per hour

MourningDove, do games w Square Enix says it wants generative AI to be doing 70% of its QA and debugging by the end of 2027

So… no more SE games for me. Not a huge loss to be honest.

pineapplelover, do games w Square Enix says it wants generative AI to be doing 70% of its QA and debugging by the end of 2027

Sure

Ryanmiller70, do gaming w ‘We had to stop focusing on those who hated us’: Ubisoft says it won the battle against Assassin’s Creed Shadows backlash [VGC]

I mean didn’t they also state one of the reasons they cancelled their Civil War AC game was cause of the backlash from this game?

theangriestbird,
@theangriestbird@beehaw.org avatar

Partly. But it was more about how the US is currently on the brink of another civil war, so Ubi felt like that might not be great for sales in the US.

DebatableRaccoon,

It would make them amazingly relevant again though. Not owning shit is so 2024

Tronn4, do games w Square Enix says it wants generative AI to be doing 70% of its QA and debugging by the end of 2027

insert plane crashing.gif

mavu, do games w Square Enix says it wants generative AI to be doing 70% of its QA and debugging by the end of 2027

Well, good luck with that. Software development is a shit show already anyway. You can find me in my Gardening business in 2027.

Rooster326, (edited )

Good Luck. When the economy finally bottoms out the first budget to go is always the gardening budget.

You can find me in my plumbing business in 2028.

I deal with shit daily so it’s what we in biz call a horizontal promotion.

Regrettable_incident,
@Regrettable_incident@lemmy.world avatar

Market gardening isn’t so bad, people gotta eat. But yeah, if you’re cutting lawns you’re going to suffer when the economy shits the bed.

mavu,

That is a valid point, and I think i’ll preemptively pivot to woodworking.

BigBananaDealer, do games w Square Enix says it wants generative AI to be doing 70% of its QA and debugging by the end of 2027

dont they already have dumbbots in playtesting?

frongt,

The Talos Principle certainly did in 2014.

Taldan, do games w Square Enix says it wants generative AI to be doing 70% of its QA and debugging by the end of 2027

So Square Enix is demanding OpenAI stop using their content, but is 100% okay using AI built off stolen content to make more money themselves

As a developer, it bothers me that my code is being used to train AI that Square Enix is using while trying to deny anyone else the ability to use their work

I could go either way on whether or not AI should be able to train on available data, but no one should get to have it both ways

AntiBullyRanger,

🙇‍♀️🙇‍♀️🙇‍♀️🙇‍♀️ I came to this 🧵 to make this exact ridicule.
Capitalists really showing their true colors when it comes to self-indulgence.

Mikina, (edited ) do games w Square Enix says it wants generative AI to be doing 70% of its QA and debugging by the end of 2027

Square Enix actually has a pretty sick automated QA already. There’s a cool talk about how they did that for FFVII remake in GDC vault, and I highly recommend watching it, if you’re at all interested in QA.

It has nothing to do with AI, it’s just plain old automation, but they solve most of the issues you get with making automated tests in non-discrete 3D playspace and they do that in a pretty solid way. It’s definitely something I’d love to have implemented in the games I’m working on, as someone who worked in QA and now works in development. Being able to have mostly reliable way how to smoke-test levels for basic gameplay without having to torture QA to run the test-case again is good, and allows QA to focus on something else - but the tools also need oversight, so it’s not really a job lost. In summary - I think the talk is cool tech and worth the watch.

However, I don’t think AI will help in this regard, and something as unreliable and random as AI models are not a good fit for this job. You want to have deterministic testcases that you can quanitfy, and if something doesn’t match have an actual human to look at why. AI also probably won’t be able to find clever corner-cases and bugs that need human ingenuity.

Fuck AI, I kind of hope this is just a marketing talk and they are actually just improving the (deterministic) tools they already have (which actually are AI by definition, since they also do level exploration on top of recorded inputs), and they are calling it an “AI” to satisfy investors/management without actually slapping a glorified chat-bot into the tech for no reason.

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