I’m half expecting Peter Thiel to say “maybe we should build a bunch of fallout shelters and then initiate a nuclear holocaust so we can outlast all our enemies, and also run some experiments while we’re at it” in an interview tomorrow, wearing a vault suit and giving a thumbs up.
This is like designing a Game of Thrones fighting game.
You can throw all the clever nods you want into the product. You can read the source material to high heaven and spend all the time in the world perfecting it. You can hire the best and brightest fighting game devs to come in and design the best game ever.
Fundamentally it will never work. Game of Thrones’ charm is in its politics, feeling of isolation, and world building. There’s no way to bring anything out of that in a fighting game. As soon as you put Renly against Joeffry in a match to the death anyone that’s a fan will just look at the product befuddled.
For this reality show you’re taking a franchise that’s known for its single player experience and tight top notch writing for both the games (at least 1 and 2) and tv show and stripping that away in favor of a format that encourages none of that. All it’s going to be is some weird challenge with loser kids going “OMG I WASNT EXPECTING THAT!!” and “What. The. Fuck. “ for 30 minutes. It’s not going to be good. And it’s gonna be a shit stain on the franchise.
I think there’s a real angle there for something, in regards to the various vaults and what they are for. But I can’t see how that would convert to anything practically doable. But imagine squid game, basically, with each season being a different vault and a different experiment. Of course it can’t work as a reality show for obvious reasons, but I really do think it could be a hit show as a seasonal anthology series.
The tests and the vaults are a big part of the fallout lore after all, and part of it’s charm. I think there’s a lot there, even something that could work as a reality show were we not civilized and peaceful and instead allowed something like real life squid game concepts in reality shows.
What the hell? Premise they’re going with just makes it any other gameshow. Missed opportunity to have each “Vault” have some kind of unique experiment or twist.
The quality of the Fallout TV show to me is somewhere post-season 4 Dexter. Not at Dexter’s worst but far from great. It is watchable. Entertaining enough. Not very memorable. Good for syndicated reruns background noise while you eat. Milking something that doesn’t have a very high peak
Also, Bethesda is not going to make a new Fallout game while Fallout 76 keeps printing money. Same with Elder Scrolls Online. The amazing thing isn’t just how far Bethesda has fallen, it’s how many people keep propping them up.
Bethesda is not going to make a new Fallout game while Fallout 76 keeps printing money.
I’ve said this all along, they want subscriptions and mtx, they don’t want to make video games. Starfield was the last one we will get and we only got that because it was Todd’s stupid baby. ESO and F76 are where they want to be going forward. They will keep expanding them and accepting people’s money and license TV shows now I guess.
I’ve played over 200 hours of Fallout 76 without spending a dime. It’s got more content than Fallout 4 by now and you don’t even have to care about multiplayer. Saying they don’t want to make games is just stupid.
I’m not sure what your point is - is it that they made Fallout 76 so you could play it for free? Or that Fallout 76 is proof they’re going to make Fallout 5? Or what.
There’s zero chance there won’t be a Fallout 5 but Elder Scrolls is their next major game, so it won’t be soon. In the meantime there’s a great free Fallout game for anyone who wants it despite it not being titled Fallout 5. It doesn’t require a subscription or microtransactions and making it sound like some sort of mobile game only shows you don’t know what it is.
There’s zero chance there won’t be a Fallout 5 but Elder Scrolls is their next major game, so it won’t be soon.
If it came out tomorrow it wouldn’t be “soon,” Fallout 4 came out 11 years ago.
In the meantime there’s a great free Fallout game for anyone who wants it despite it not being titled Fallout 5.
The game is currently listed for $39.99 on Steam. Reviews are “mixed” after 5 years of Bethesda adding content to the game, which originally released to overwhelmingly negative reviews, so not “great”.
It doesn’t require a subscription or microtransactions and making it sound like some sort of mobile game only shows you don’t know what it is.
The game does not charge for a subscription, but you most certainly have to have one, because you have to login to the game. There would be no way for them to try and sell you shit through their microtransaction store every single time you login otherwise. Which they do. You are not obliged to buy them, but you are obliged to view ads for them.
Now then. Every single thing you just said is demonstrably wrong. What exactly makes you the authority on what Bethesda intends to do with Fallout?
So it’s not free, you have to give Bethesda/Microsoft money every month and when you stop doing so, you lose access to all the games. Game Pass Ultimate has tripled in price over 8 years and there’s no reason to believe they won’t keep raising it. Lower tiers haven’t risen as much I guess, but have been nerfed instead (no more day 1 new games, yay)
If you have a TON of free time, game pass is a good deal for sure, but at this point with all the price hikes, a few months of game pass is one brand new AAA game or 2-3 excellent indie or AA titles and I’d wager it takes the average adult several months to finish one truly big game like BG3 or Elden Ring (just to name two excellent games with decent scope from recent years), as time is a scarce resource.
That's fucking stupid. Why? Who asked for this? Just make the damn games. Maybe I'm biased because I think this sort of thing is unentertaining trash, but I legitimately don't think that Fallout fans like this sort of thing.
This isn’t for Fallout fans. It’s for people who watch Netflix/Prime and saw the Fallout show. Reality shows are pretty popular on these platforms (Beast Games is #2 on Prime right now) so that’s who they’re going after.
I mean, the show is decent enough, it was the first Fallout related thing I ever consumed, got me to play the games. Still think that this is pretty unrelated to that though. Not sure it'll succeed.
Besides the main story (an incredible important element), it was good. The location lore was interesting. The radiant quests were fucking stupid. Most of the side quests were decent. It's overhated imo. Nuka-Cola World was boring as shit besides the Hubbologists, I'm not gonna lie.
The main quest was terrible. Should never center the plot on the player when there’s custom creation and open world. It’s forcing a backstory or behaviour onto the player even if they don’t want it.
I played a big Michael Clarke Duncan brute rolling melee as Idiot Savant. The intro and main quest was entirely incompatible with character, full of things they wouldn’t have done, would do, or should do.
That’s actually one of my favorite parts, it’s like a feed into itself incentive for my already packrat tendencies.
Now instead of just taking all their weapons/armor/clothes to sell, the random junk is also useful for when I get back home and can upgrade the town, my weapons, or my armor!
I don’t even get it. Everything after fallout 1 has no bearing on fallout 1. It’s exactly the same as it was when it was released. It’s not hard to not think about things you don’t like lol
It’s like how I can’t stand to watch Kevin Spacey movies after we all found out about who he is.
Does it mean he’s no longer a talented actor? No. Does it make his movies suck? No. Does it taint everything he ever did and now seeing him reminds you of how shitty he is as a person?
The crime doesn’t have to equate? Why bring up Kevin Spacey’s crimes at all? How is that relevant to not liking the direction a franchise went?
I don’t feel that “this franchise went in a bad direction, so now I can’t enjoy the previous works” is anything like “this person is a sexual predator, so now I can’t enjoy their previous works”.
It would be really awkward to watch a known sexual predator in a movie, even if the movie predates the crime. The existence of the Fallout TV show has no effect on Fallout 1 as a game.
I guess I’m truly not understanding the comparison. I do not see the similarity between having a series ruined because an actor is a sexual predator and having a series ruined because you don’t like the sequel. Not sure what part of those scenarios you were comparing, but I’m just not seeing it.
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