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UnfortunateShort, do games w Microsoft Nintendo acquisition hopes revealed by leaked Xbox exec email

Wasn’t this a thing forever ago and didn’t Nintendo just laugh at them? They just had a super successful console and now have more successful IPs than ever, they would be straight up insane to sell a business that runs this good.

Squizzy,

Nintendo is publicly traded, it may be the case that the board won’t have that much of a say.

CypherColt, do games w Starfield players are being haunted by asteroids

Quantum Asteroid? Outer Wilds style!

WheeGeetheCat, do games w Microsoft Nintendo acquisition hopes revealed by leaked Xbox exec email
@WheeGeetheCat@sh.itjust.works avatar

Microsoft would kill Nintendo so quickly. I think they could do it in 10 years tops, shadow of its former self

mojo, do games w Microsoft Nintendo acquisition hopes revealed by leaked Xbox exec email

What the fuck, this will actually kill Nintendo. Aren’t they way too big to buy?

quams69,

Yeah, also they probably have no interest in being bought. I wouldn’t worry about what a greedy MS corpo wants in this regard

EnglishMobster, (edited )

Microsoft is bigger.

Nintendo’s market cap is about $56.7 billion.

Microsoft’s market cap is $2.44 trillion, with $111 billion worth of cash (not equity, cash) in the bank.

Microsoft is 43 times bigger than Nintendo. They can pay for Nintendo with only cash, if they desire.

These trillion-dollar players are an order of magnitude larger than anyone around them. They can do what they want, same as how Apple ($2.8 trillion) can easily buy Disney ($150.5 billion) if they wished.

This isn’t an exact science, but you can use market cap to ballpark these things and get an idea of how much an acquisition would cost. For example, Twitter had a market cap of $31 billion in August 2022, and Elon bought it a few months later for $44 billion. That’s a 1.4x increase, so applying the same math buying all of Disney would “only” cost about $214 billion - which both Apple and Microsoft (and Google) could do. Nintendo would cost about $80 billion, which Microsoft could do without even taking out a loan.

The issue isn’t necessarily the price; it’s the regulators.

tal, (edited )
@tal@kbin.social avatar

What is Microsoft even making money on these days?

googles

https://www.kamilfranek.com/microsoft-revenue-breakdown/

Azure, Office, and (still) Windows, apparently.

Only 8% of revenue is gaming. They sure do went to grow that.

ShittyRedditWasBetter, (edited ) do games w Microsoft Nintendo acquisition hopes revealed by leaked Xbox exec email

I would fucking love to get Nintendo shit off of the switch. And trash every single line of code that run Nintendos online service. Fuck, can Nintendo do even a single decent multiplayer experience?

midbus,

And give Microsoft even more of a monopoly?

ShittyRedditWasBetter, (edited )

🙄 screaming monopoly in gaming while stream is a thing is an absurd proposition. Game development has an absurdly low barrier to entry and is easily one of the most competitive markets on the planet. Citing a B tier player who is the most open of the console makers as a monopoly when players like Steam, Nintendo, and Sony exist is insane. Gamepass is a fantastic value, MS is a big reason cross play exists, and people lose their shit if a game isn’t available through steam.

Microsoft is one of the companies innovating TBH and I have no issues getting more games on streaming, console, and my PC for effectively $2.50/month once you convert gold. Easily the best value in gaming I’ve had in 30+ years of gaming.

Not having to buy a$300 outdated phone to enjoy the 5 things I enjoy on Nintendo would be a godsend.

4am,

“Microsoft is one of the companies innovating”

“This new Xbox is a windows PC that you can’t upgrade”

Yeah, great. Innovative. Some real Wozniak shit right there. Get your head out of your ass.

ShittyRedditWasBetter,

MS sells a capable device at a price point lower than any PC even close in performance and you bitch about upgrading 🤣

midbus,

Competition is what causes innovation, the only reason Microsoft does innovate is because of its competition with companies like Sony and Nintendo. You really think game pass would be here to stay without competition? That shits only a good deal because it has to be.

ShittyRedditWasBetter,

So working as intended? No real monopoly to be had?

AnonTwo,

What a fanboy, jeez lol

ShittyRedditWasBetter,

Yes. They are fantastic. Y’all just st lazy attacking me instead of dealing with your copium.

AnonTwo,

You aren't really giving anyone anything to work with. Plus you call everyone copium for...some reason, so we might as well call you out on fanboyism since you actually remember that Microsoft gold exists

ShittyRedditWasBetter,

Tell me you couldn’t be less informed lol. Microsoft will let you convert gold into game pass ultimate allowing you to rack up 3 years for like $70. It’s an absurd value and you just want to hand waive it away because it doesn’t support you🤣

AnonTwo, (edited )

Wow, you're doing advertising for them too huh?

But yeah no, I just don't buy any of it to begin with and let the points rot. No interest in getting locked into a system that they'll eventually try to raise the prices on once they muscle out their competitors.

I'm amazed you said these are the best deals you've seen in 30 years. Cause you certainly don't seem to be in my age group. Though maybe you're using the emote spamming to look younger than you are, who knows.

ShittyRedditWasBetter,

Locked into what? More than you are locked into steam? You just make crap up 🤣

AnonTwo, (edited )

Come back to me when I start having to pay a fee so that valve doesn't pull my games.

Also is 🤣 your copium when you need to make an argument look worse in your eyes? It really just looks like an awkward tic at this point.

ShittyRedditWasBetter,

I’ll happily rent most games for absurdly cheap and purchase the few I might play more than once. You can spend significantly more creating a dusty catalog. There is plenty of room for competition 😉

some_guy,
@some_guy@kbin.social avatar

Thinking that Microsoft is innovating and Steam (Valve is their name but whatever) is not is some real small 🍆 energy

AdolfSchmitler, (edited )

Bro did Nintendo fuck your wife or something?

ShittyRedditWasBetter,

I love it. I fucking love it. My opinion absolutely enrages the masses here. Me wanting Nintendo games on game pass is just making blood boil.

Carighan, do games w Microsoft Nintendo acquisition hopes revealed by leaked Xbox exec email
@Carighan@lemmy.world avatar

MS wanted to buy Nintendo. The company that has so much money on hand that they are a noticable thing to the japanese banking sector?

Of all possible companies they were looking at buying? Heck, Sony might be more realistic by comparison, at least their gaming/console parts!

stopthatgirl7, (edited )
!deleted7120 avatar

And of all the hubris to want to rock up to a company that is over 125 years old and still going strong to tell them you would know better how to run their company than them.

ShittyRedditWasBetter,

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  • stopthatgirl7,
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    Microsoft is never going to love you back, dude.

    ShittyRedditWasBetter,

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  • stopthatgirl7,
    !deleted7120 avatar

    Yeeeeah, I don’t know what you’re reading, but it certainly isn’t anything I wrote.

    You seem to be a troll, judging by this and other comments I’ve seen, along with your user name, so goodbye.

    ShittyRedditWasBetter,

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  • OctopusKurwa,

    Everyone should block this clown.

    ShittyRedditWasBetter,

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  • Albbi,

    Yup, anyone who responds like that gets a block.

    sanpo,

    What’s your point? Microsoft is easily several times bigger and is a “noticeable thing” in pretty much every country.

    darreninthenet,

    Market cap of Nintendo - 50 billion Market cap of Microsoft - 2.4 trillion

    Goronmon,

    Heck, Sony might be more realistic by comparison, at least their gaming/console parts!

    I mean, judging from the quotes, even MS considered it pretty unlikely back when the email is sent.

    pulaskiwasright,

    Sony is worth more than twice as much as Nintendo.

    dustyData,

    It’s really hard for humans to imagine things at that scale, but Microsoft is so many orders of magnitude larger than Nintendo that whatever Microsoft (and other mega tech companies like Apple and Google) does the entire global international finance system feels it.

    TORFdot0, do games w Microsoft Nintendo acquisition hopes revealed by leaked Xbox exec email

    The only company I’d trust to buy Nintendo is Apple. But I’d rather that not happen

    OR3X,

    FUCK NO

    TORFdot0,

    Do you mind expanding on why you are opposed to it? To me, the companies have very similar values, especially the “we know what the consumer wants better than the consumer does” attitude and similar values toward being a walled garden with crafted experiences rather than openness.

    I know that those things aren’t popular with those who hate apple because of its philosophies and those who think it’s morally correct to pirate Nintendo games; but from a purely business standpoint, Apple would be a much better steward of Nintendo’s IP

    OR3X,

    My primary concern is that Apple has a bad habit of taking anything that they buy and only making it available within the apple ecosystem. I’m not in the Apple ecosystem and do not wish to be. There are, of course, notable exceptions to this. Apple music comes to mind.

    TORFdot0,

    A very valid concern. Thank you.

    The other concern I would have is that Apple hasn’t really dealt with physical media since like the install disc for either lion or snow leopard (can’t remember the last one you could go to Best Buy and buy an install DVD) so I’d be concerned they’d abandon dedicated gaming hardware completely or even if they did have an AppleTV like console, they’d have no support for physical media.

    dudewitbow, (edited )

    They have the opposite mindset when it comes to how they handle hardware. Nintendo targets the cheapest demographic, willing to use old technology if it meant turning profit., Apple targets the complete oppisite by always buying out bleeding edge TSMC nodes. The only thing they share in common is both sell at profit on hardware sales.

    stopthatgirl7,
    !deleted7120 avatar

    I would prefer no one bought Nintendo and they kept on doing what they do. They’ve been around for over 125 and you can still buy the hanafuda playing cards they started out making, so I’m pretty sure they know what they’re doing.

    TORFdot0,

    I absolutely agree with you, the gaming industry is much stronger with Nintendo’s presence. I was just stating that if Nintendo went up for sale, for whatever reason, I’d trust Apple to continue Nintendo’s design philosophy better than Microsoft, Sony, Google, or another big tech company.

    g6d3np81,

    Bought one many years ago, it's unexpectedly pricey for a 5cm paper card (48 cards). IIRC it's their excuse is "traditional look". The box is nice though.

    dangblingus,

    Why would you even type such a thing?

    Stumblinbear, (edited )
    @Stumblinbear@pawb.social avatar

    I can’t wait for yearly Nintendo console releases with merely cosmetic changes at $1500 price points and breaking OS changes that prevent you using games you bought two years prior!

    Dasnap, (edited ) do games w Microsoft Nintendo acquisition hopes revealed by leaked Xbox exec email
    @Dasnap@lemmy.world avatar

    Didn’t they want to do this 2 decades ago also? The offer was laughed at.

    Looks like the lads took it personally.

    Sunroc,

    They misspelled Dwayne Johnson. Hah

    Dragster39,

    Duane Johnson

    MrNesser, do games w Microsoft Nintendo acquisition hopes revealed by leaked Xbox exec email

    If Nintendo diversified its titles onto other platforms then they wouldn’t be in a position for an offer to come from Microsoft.

    Can you imagine how popular key Nintendo titles would be on PC or under a game pass deal.

    stopthatgirl7,
    !deleted7120 avatar

    This was in 2020 they were thinking this, and it doesn’t seem like Nintendo was interested at all.

    Microsoft offered to buy them back in 2000 or something, and got laughed at. Nintendo is not looking to be bought out. Nintendo does things its way and stays in its lane.

    AnonTwo,

    I honestly don't have the faintest belief that Nintendo would ever take the deal. Sure they don't diversify their platforms, but they also have the best cut from their platform.

    hogart,
    @hogart@feddit.nu avatar

    None of that matters. They won’t ever sell because of pride. Their culture goes against it on every level. It won’t happen.

    Throwaway4669332255, do games w Microsoft Nintendo acquisition hopes revealed by leaked Xbox exec email

    Turned out well for Rareware…

    nyakojiru, do games w Microsoft Nintendo acquisition hopes revealed by leaked Xbox exec email
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    Would need a kind soul to verify with more trusted sources this shitty website allegations .

    HarkMahlberg,
    @HarkMahlberg@kbin.social avatar
    lowleveldata, do games w Microsoft Nintendo acquisition hopes revealed by leaked Xbox exec email

    The site is unusable on mobile because of the aggressive ads

    stopthatgirl7,
    !deleted7120 avatar

    Sorry, I have an ad blocker on my phone so I genuinely have no idea if there are ads on a site or how bad they are anymore on mobile. Try flipping to reader view to see it without ads?

    Blizzard,

    That’s on you for not using an adblocker.

    lowleveldata,

    Oh really? It’s not on the site for placing aggressive ads?

    Blizzard,

    As far as I’m concerned, all ads are aggressive. I don’t want to see any ads, period. Using an adblocker is a norm. It’s not only a matter of civilized online experience but also privacy and security (latest example). Of course you are not required to use one, but don’t go online complaining you see ads.

    lowleveldata,

    I’m not following. How am I supposed to let everyone knows that this site is shit without complaining?

    Blizzard,

    Everyone else should use adblockers too.

    stopthatgirl7,
    !deleted7120 avatar

    If you don’t have an ad blocker installed though, seriously, I can’t recommend getting one enough. It’s legit like night and day how different it is. There are occasional inconveniences, but it is overall so, so much better for browsing QoL.

    smallaubergine, do games w Microsoft Nintendo acquisition hopes revealed by leaked Xbox exec email

    Not very interesting news in my opinion. Lots of companies/CEOs want to acquire other companies.

    mindbleach, do games w Microsoft Nintendo acquisition hopes revealed by leaked Xbox exec email

    Shatter this corporation.

    nanoUFO, (edited ) do games w Microsoft Nintendo acquisition hopes revealed by leaked Xbox exec email
    @nanoUFO@sh.itjust.works avatar

    Holy monopoly if that happened. Also imagine the damage to Japanese culture if one of their treasured companies was owned by a company in another country.

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