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DoucheBagMcSwag, do games w After the catastrophe of Concord Sony is reportedly cancelling other projects including a God of War live service game

cancelled God of War sequel

“That’s bad!”

Live service

“That’s good!”

Omgboom, do games w After the catastrophe of Concord Sony is reportedly cancelling other projects including a God of War live service game

Oh well thank god then

Tattorack, do games w After the catastrophe of Concord Sony is reportedly cancelling other projects including a God of War live service game
@Tattorack@lemmy.world avatar

Good riddance. Seems like Sony got the message; we’re sick of everything being a “live service”.

justOnePersistentKbinPlease,

Well, no.
Deep Rock Galactic has fully optional skin packs to make money and they're doing great.

Warframe has been chugging along for over a decade now and they're doing great. Beating the pants off of Destiny 2 for average player count.

The live service trick is that live service only works if the company actually cares about the product. Those two companies stand out because they legitimately care and have great communication with their communities.

scrubbles,
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I’d say also it depends on the franchise. Depp rock? Be a funny space dwarf yelling rock and stone? Hell yes imma do that with some friends.

God of war? No. Much more serious tone, I want to do that alone to explore the narrative

Tattorack,
@Tattorack@lemmy.world avatar

So far Warframe has been the ONLY example of a good live service game. It’s the OG when it comes to the model, but it’s also the exception, and not the rule.

JoMiran,
@JoMiran@lemmy.ml avatar

Destiny historically vasscilated between “fucking amazing” and “dumpster fire”. The problem has always been that it is near impossible to maintain that level of quality and entertainment consistently while also innovating on a regular basis. It is very difficult and very expensive.

ByteOnBikes, (edited )

They moved into “dumpster fire” territory significantly more than “fucking amazing”, sadly. Like one good expansion, three bad updates and two bad expansions, one good update.

ByteOnBikes,

Don’t forget Path of Exile.

Id argue a bunch of early access games that get constant updates are Live Service games too.

And indie games like Terraria and Minecraft were the best examples of live service.

Tattorack,
@Tattorack@lemmy.world avatar

“Live service” is a game that has an always online requirement. Just getting updates on the regular doesn’t make it a live service if the game works just fine without an Internet connection.

Single player Ubisoft games are all “live services”, due to some of them needing a constant connection to Ubisoft’s servers, and them having in-game shops that only work while online.

stephen01king,

I’m not sure you got the right definition of live service game. What you said is the definition of always online games.

Tattorack,
@Tattorack@lemmy.world avatar

They’re the same thing. “Live service” is how Activision-Blizzard rebranded games that required to be always online. They also solidified the outline of things publishers at the time were already doing with their always online games, such as endless content players will have to buy.

Those documents leaked many years ago, and soon after that the moniker was changed from “always online” to “Live Service”.

stephen01king,

You got any links to one of those leaks? That sounds kinda interesting.

Tattorack,
@Tattorack@lemmy.world avatar

I’ll try and find them, but first I heard from it was from Jim Stirling. “The Jimquisition” on YouTube, I think. Haven’t kept up with that guy in years.

stephen01king,

Thanks in advance.

stephen01king,

I’d consider No Man’s Sky a pretty successful live service game, as well.

codexarcanum,

DRG and Warframe also hit the critical requirement of actually being games that are fun to play!

I haven’t played a lot of WF, but I’ve got hundreds of hours on DRG. There is no grind. Getting holiday loot takes 5 to 8 matched total, and the Seasons are long and very relaxed. I maxed out XP for this season already and the next probably won’t start until at least this summer.

The community is going strong, the game is fun, Ghost Ship seems stable and like a nice place to work. It’s so stupid that more companies don’t see that they could run like this instead of chasing “get rich quick” corporate schemes that always alienate the fans.

MothmanDelorian,

DRG doesn’t make me feel like they are taking advantage of me with their transactions because they aren’t required. It’s nice that way.

scala,

Warframe’s MTX is so fair too. All of it can be earned in game, get items sell items for Platinum (paid currency) get the item from the shop.

The exception is the Fan made skins that are a few bucks. But those directly support the fan created skins.

Warframe is mostly pay-2-convenience.

The latest story expansion Warframe 1999 was phenomenal. If you havent played it yet, definitely follow through the main story it’s all tied together. One of the best stories that continue to deliver.

Iapar, do games w After the catastrophe of Concord Sony is reportedly cancelling other projects including a God of War live service game

You want to make money? Let bluepoint make a bloodborne remaster and bring it to PC.

Like, make the obvious good and profitable decision.

newthrowaway20,

But hear me out. Battle passes, dark patterns and FOMO.

kemsat,

I feel like it’s the same 12 people loudly asking for Bloodbourne.

henfredemars, do games w After the catastrophe of Concord Sony is reportedly cancelling other projects including a God of War live service game

It’s for the best. The series deserves better than live service.

ByteOnBikes, do games w After the catastrophe of Concord Sony is reportedly cancelling other projects including a God of War live service game

While playing the single player masterpiece which was God of War, I absolutely thought: “The only way to make this game better is if I had the luxury of buying a battle pass to grind for seasonal cosmetics along with a dozen other people.” 🤤🤤🤤🤑

henfredemars,

I’ve played each game and they are all awesome.

ByteOnBikes,

Would be better if you can earn skibidi toilet emoji dances for Kratos

steal_your_face,
@steal_your_face@lemmy.ml avatar

Would love to see a kratos twerking emote

yeather,

Play Fortnite

daniskarma, do games w Alan Emrich, the game designer and writer who coined the term '4X,' has died

May he rest in eternity.

Kolanaki, do games w Alan Emrich, the game designer and writer who coined the term '4X,' has died
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Named it 4X; but the X stands for words that begin with E.

Explore, Expand, Exploit, Exterminate.

Why aren’t they 4E games? 🤦‍♂️

Deceptichum,

Because the Ecks is what you hear in all of them.

wandermind,

4Ex

warmaster,

Scott Pilgrim’s Civilization

lud,

Thats Stellaris

droporain, do games w Alan Emrich, the game designer and writer who coined the term '4X,' has died

Now with 4x death!

FrostyCaveman, do games w Alan Emrich, the game designer and writer who coined the term '4X,' has died

Oh damn, thats a name I admittedly haven’t heard in a while. This guy had a huge impact on the games I played growing up. Still play the Master of Orion games every now and then. RIP

SplashJackson, do games w Alan Emrich, the game designer and writer who coined the term '4X,' has died

He was Snake’s buddy in Metal Gears Solid

essell,

He’s been my buddy since master of Orion ❤️

massive_bereavement, do games w Alan Emrich, the game designer and writer who coined the term '4X,' has died

Nemo's War is an outstanding solo game, probably one of the best, both tematically and in how much life it has.

As a cooperative though, it is a quite complex game that make it teaching a bit of an ordeal (IMO).
So joining someone's play makes you feeling as if you were dragged along an old sea captain through the complexities of a highly technical submarine.

Boomkop3, do gaming w Razer has released a backseat gaming AI bot called Ava, and I'm not sure whether using it should be considered cheating or not

A better mouse and pc is not cheating, using macro’s is debatable, aim assist is definitely cheating, letting an AI completely take over is absof## cheating.

just because you’re still terrible with cheats on doesn’t mean it’s not cheating.

Sterile_Technique, do gaming w Razer has released a backseat gaming AI bot called Ava, and I'm not sure whether using it should be considered cheating or not
@Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world avatar

If the build quality of their peripherals is any indication, I can only assume this product will also be shit.

Graphy, do gaming w Razer has released a backseat gaming AI bot called Ava, and I'm not sure whether using it should be considered cheating or not

If it actually yelled at you in all games it’d be hilarious to try it out. Too bad it’ll probably be some generic tip regurgitating monkey that only works in like leagues and valorant

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