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tal, do games w Game marketing company takes down blog post bragging about how good it is at astroturfing Reddit after Reddit finds the post
@tal@lemmy.today avatar

The clear blend of cynicism and resignation in replies to the Reddit thread about the deleted Trap Plan post clearly illustrate how widely pervasive these practices are perceived to be.

I mean, back when professional game reviewing was more of a thing, game publishers used to do things like take said reviewers on outings and stuff to influence them, give them free copies, whatever. Marketers trying to subvert information flow isn’t something that suddenly showed up with social media.

bobgobbler,

Silly all of them lol

mrnarwall, do games w Game marketing company takes down blog post bragging about how good it is at astroturfing Reddit after Reddit finds the post

This confirms what I expected. I thought I was going crazy the first time I saw an ask reddit repost and I recognized all the top answers. Eventually they bots will outnumber the users and dead Internet theory will prevail

There are definitely pockets of reddit that don’t have their content flooded with bots, but they are the exception in today’s day and age. I especially enjoy the college football subreddit, as there still isn’t quite something similar on lemmy

krashmo,

Lemmy has those communities, they’re just small and not very active comparatively

Ashtear,

A lot of the sports subs’ better content is instant reaction. Harder to fake. The only participation I still have on reddit is a similar community for a large video game. It’s more like a chatroom than a message board. Small wonder I spend way more time talking on Discord than anywhere these days.

ampersandrew, do games w Capcom doubles down on its decision to go pay-per-view during the Street Fighter League despite the fact that nobody really likes it
@ampersandrew@lemmy.world avatar

As one Reddit commenter put it: “I thought Capcom organised this circuit as a marketing tool for the game. Makes no sense to charge viewers to watch it. And esports is, unfortunately, still way too niche for that to be profitable.”

It’s shooting themselves in the foot, not their audience. Their audience has plenty of Street Fighter tournaments to watch.

NarrativeBear, do games w US government uses Halo images in a call to 'destroy' immigration, Microsoft declines to comment

Lawsuit incoming…?

Tm12,

From who? They funded the Epstein Ballroom.

nfreak,
@nfreak@lemmy.ml avatar

Microsoft declining to comment may as well be a confession that they gave this shit the go-ahead

Omegamanthethird,
@Omegamanthethird@lemmy.world avatar

I don’t know what’s worse, that Microsoft may have given them the go-ahead or that they did it knowing Microsoft would be too scared to say something.

harmbugler,

You already know they didn’t ask permission.

jimmux,
@jimmux@programming.dev avatar

Can you imagine if MS did say something, and Trump immediately decided to replace all their products in government with Apple alternatives? You know he would.

nfreak,
@nfreak@lemmy.ml avatar

Equally disgusting tbh. Boycott for life for sure.

cyberpunk007,

Probably. Trump will probably sue Microsoft for stealing his battle suit for video games.

Tracaine, do games w Emperor of overpromising Peter Molyneux says he's done with games after Masters of Albion, which is also his 'redemption title'

Where is Black and White 3, Peter? Tell me and the curses will stop.

kibiz0r,

Is the IP still trapped in legal limbo?

Passerby6497,

Just call it ‘Gray and Dark Gray’, pick different animals and call it a day

voracitude,
echodot,

Call it Gray and Grey

Really confuse the issue.

Passerby6497,

One of them is the color grey, they other is named Gray

Die4Ever,
@Die4Ever@retrolemmy.com avatar

In the US call it Gray and Grey, but in the UK localize the title to Grey and Gray

Karyoplasma,

B&W2 was meh. I liked the erratic nature of creature behavior in 1, even tho it meant that you had to be more involved. Not punishing your creature for bad behavior was interpreted as encouraging it, which turned your buddy into a scheming, little brat and that was funny. The creature in 2 is way too streamlined.

SaharaMaleikuhm, do games w EA CEO says company values will 'remain unchanged' under the new ownership of Saudi Arabia and Jared Kushner's investment firm

Hey, at least EA has not had a journalist dismembered… yet.

Sabata11792,

They must have dismembered the witnesses too. Knowing EA, they sold the organs in loot boxes.

Bennyboybumberchums, do games w EA CEO says company values will 'remain unchanged' under the new ownership of Saudi Arabia and Jared Kushner's investment firm

So, just the same soulless cash grabs as usual going forward?

UnderpantsWeevil,
@UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world avatar

Soulless cash grab with a healthy veneer of jingoism and plenty of toxic masculinity.

You’ll play your Muscle Man Beats Up The Evil Foreigners game, you’ll pay top dollar for it, and if you’re lucky you’ll get a loot box with a Trump/MBS NFT in it.

fuzzywombat, do games w 'Borderlands 4 is a premium game made for premium gamers' is Randy Pitchford's tone deaf retort to the performance backlash: 'If you're trying to drive a monster truck with a leaf blower's motor, you're going to be disappointed'

I was planning on picking up B4 when the GOTY edition goes on sale for $20-30 couple years from now. I figured performance issues will be solved by then. Now I think I’ll pass.

SaltySalamander,

Piracy, my friend. Fuck devs like this.

p03locke,
@p03locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Fuck games like this. Borderlands fell off after 2.

purplemonkeymad,

Probably not worth pirating, will still run like crap.

Forgetting about it is probably the best insult you can give it.

daggermoon, do games w The only good Postal game is a spinoff expressionist boomer shooter that takes place entirely in the protagonist's depraved mind

Postal 1 and 2 are fucking bangers.

cyberpunk007,

Played 2 before 1, could never get into 1 after that. 2 is so good.

daggermoon,

It’s the perfect game

Agent_Karyo, do games w Star Citizen fans sigh deeply, rub their foreheads as developer casts doubt on Squadron 42's 2026 release: 'I don't know if we're going to make it'
@Agent_Karyo@lemmy.world avatar

I remember them announcing that SQ404 was entering a “polishing” phase in late 2023.

At that point and to this day, they failed to finalise a flight model, develop an armour/shield system and implement engineering gameplay.

Arguably these are critical elements for a release with space sim gameplay. Although if SQ404 does release, I think it will be 30 hours of Wing Commander The Movie level cut scenes (space bulldozer) and script, with bored sounding Hollywood actors counting the seconds till they can leave Chris Roberts’ mocap studio.

Inside Chris Roberts’ Mocap Studio:

Roberts: Hehehe. Hey, Mark! You know how I came up with the Vanduul? Hehe.

Hamil: No, how?

Roberts: Ehehe. Vandals to Vanduul! Get it? Hehehe. Pretty smart, right? Hehehe.

Hamil: Very original.

Roberts: Did you know the Vandals were a Germanic tribal grouping that raided the Roman Empire? Bet you didn’t know that! Hehehe.

Hamil: I am in awe of your creativy!

Roberts: I know, right! Hehehe.

Ok Mark, enough farting around. Pretend you are riding a space bulldozer!

Tar_alcaran,

I think it will be 30 hours of Wing Commander The Movie level cut scenes

It never existed!

echodot, do games w Young men are 'playing videogames all day' instead of getting jobs because they can mooch off of free healthcare, claims congressman

What’s an enormous brain he has, it’s amazing that it fits in his itty bitty head.

So living in the UK which has free healthcare I can tell everybody that it’s super easy to do this.

Obviously I don’t have a job so I can’t afford food, so I just starve myself until I nearly die, and then the NHS turn up and put me in one of those pokeball rehabilitation things and I’m good to go.

prof, do gaming w Gooner game of the year Stellar Blade's mods are 41% smut, ensuring gamers will never see the light of heaven
@prof@infosec.pub avatar

Josh’s articles seem to be bangers most of the time.

Unlike the people he’s writing about, which probably never banged.

dumblederp, (edited ) do games w Helldivers 2 and Palworld devs wish players understood that 'easy' additions and updates are sometimes really hard: 'That's half a year's work. That takes six months'
@dumblederp@aussie.zone avatar

My Helldivers gripe is that the war bonds cost too much for the casual player. 1000 super credits takes a while to gather, and even grind. Paying actual money for them is about $25aud per war bond. I think there’s eight war bonds now? That’s a full day’s income, and you still need to collect medals to unlock the contents of the warbond.

Edit: You all don’t need to explain this to me, I’m aware of the options for getting super credits. None of that changes how I feel about the game and that I’m losing interest because of it.

lepinkainen,

But you don’t “need” to unlock them all on the day of release, there is no FOMO component, they don’t disappear after a month.

And if you play enough to unlock them faster than they can get them out, you definitely have the time to grind the 1000SC to unlock them.

dumblederp,
@dumblederp@aussie.zone avatar

I’m definitely experiencing FOMO with the warbonds I don’t have. I don’t have the time to play/grind or the inclination to pay for them, so I am missing out. There’s three warbonds that I don’t have and sure I’ll eventually get them maybe but right now I’m missing out. Being able to unlock things is a big part of a game to me. I’m not dedicated enough to HD2 to skip the other games I want to play in order to get the unlocks. The whole process is lowering my interest in the game. I paid for it, I want to use the new toys that get released with it. If I were to buy it today, I’d be so far behind I’d feel short-changed in what I got access to.

lepinkainen,

It’s by far the least scummy of all online shooters.

I still have multiple to unlock and I have no issue paying for them. I have way more money than time to play.

renrenPDX,

Have to disagree. The war bonds have been some of the easiest to pay with in game currency compared to games like cod where their cod points feel next to worthless.

If you are netting very few credits per hell dive, you may be playing with those that don’t need them or playing bots, or a newly released content. Farming on level 1 will often get you with like minded folk, especially before a war bonds release. Farming is quick when you realize you don’t have to extract, just abort to ship.

Redredme,

1000 super credits are easily farmed just by doing missions. Do low level missions, race to the poi’s with the car, rinse repeat.

Fun? No. But you said farming so this is it. ¯_(ツ)_/¯

By just playing the game for little over a week, so no farming, just playing, i’ve gathered 700 sc.

The medals are easily gathered doing level 5 and up missions and completing your personal orders. And taking part in the majors of course.

dumblederp,
@dumblederp@aussie.zone avatar

All that stuff is great if you’ve the time. I’ve got maybe 1-2 hours a week for the game.

TronBronson,

Here the thing, if you only play 1-2 hours a week you barely have enough time to get a good load out figured out. Why don’t you just enjoy the game as is, when you have 40 hours in the game you should have unlocked a battle pass. It’s how games are monetized now. Enjoy the content available to you or fork up the cash. Welcome to 2025 we all hate it here.

TronBronson,

If you play 1-2 hours a week you probably haven’t even unlocked the free stuff yet, or got meaningful upgrades. The new guns are not that great. I use the same shotgun from day 1. Same OG kit. The game plays fine without the BPs. The game gives you free access to BP. The core game itself is very fun to play and the rewards come pretty naturally.How is this an issue?

Murvel,

But then, warbonds aren’t necessary to play the game…

Redredme,

If you don’t have the time to read a book,watch a movie or play a game you should not start it.

I’m over 50, like you only have a few hours, i have a tremendous backlog of games i just have to play and a family to provide for. (mechwarrior clans is the first one which comes to mind but i have dozens)

But i came back for this event. You miss nothing. Every weapon you can “buy” does not really alter the game or changes anything. The standard liberator is still one of the very best primaries.

erin,

Ignoring the part about the super credits and fomo stuff, the money confuses me. Is regional pricing so different that you’re paying an additional $10 AUD compared to US and EU pricing? Additionally, $25 AUD as a full day’s income? Even a low hour, part time job earns way more than that. I feel like your situation might not be financially compatible with buying things like that, I’d cheat or pirate if it’s that important to you. $10 USD is not much for DLC, and while I strongly dislike purchasable gameplay mechanics in games, it’s supporting the continued development and it isn’t egregious. $10 is a burger, or a coffee, and I’m saying this as someone well below the poverty line.

Chocobofangirl,
@Chocobofangirl@lemmy.world avatar

They meant buying all eight, which is funky to me since a day’s income for me is more like $120 CAD. edit: but also an extra ten bucks is zero surprise, we already have that issue in cad for exchange rates and aus likes to put extra charges on video games tho i dunno about dlcs.

yeather,

I’m hoping after we beat back the squids the devs give us another free warbond. That should hopefully bridge the gap for new or players who cannot spend money on the game.

Atomic,

It’s 15 AUD, not 25.

As for myself. I play maybe on average 2-3 missions per day.

So 70 ish missions per month. Collect an average of 10sc per mission. That’s 700sc + the 300 you get from the previous warbond.

That sounds very reasonable to me for an average playtime of 1h per day.

DarrinBrunner, do games w Even Starfield's community patch modders are growing 'disenchanted' with the sci-fi RPG, as volunteers depart in droves: 'If nobody comes forward, we may have to retire the project'
@DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world avatar

I have almost 6500 hours in FO4, I played today.

I have maybe 300 hours in Starfield, can’t be arsed to look. Haven’t touched it in at least a year.

Bethesda knows how to make great games, but they chose not to. I don’t know why.

That’s my take.

Gregg,

Coming from a long time fan of Bethesda RPGs They have gotten way too comfortable relying on radiant quests and proc gen content. Those aren’t inherently bad, but the way they were implemented in Starfield was. What’s so fun about landing on a planet that appears the same as another a few light years away and seeing the same fucking cryogenics lab with the same layout, items, lore logs, and enemy placement? Chasing the same bounties for a paltry sum of credits (not that you’ll need them it’s easy to break the economy) or legendary loot that you’ll likely just sell (for credits you won’t use)? There are cool things like ship building that could be further fleshed out but so much of the game ended up undercooked and uninspired (space travel with your ship was a glorified screensaver in a game about space traversal for Christ’s sake).

MDCCCLV,

Yes, the second I realized they were actually doing that with literally copy pasted areas and notes and characters it killed the game for me. I can be reasonable for a dungeon having the same layout but not written content and characters. It invalidates the entire experience.

PeterisBacon,

Your take makes me mad. Not because you are wrong or anything, but because you are entirely right and I don’t want you to be lol! I wanted this game to be cool so badly.

BananaTrifleViolin,

I think if Starfield had come out 10 years ago it would have wowed people and been a classic. But now it just seems dated when you have other games doing RPG better (Cyberpunk 2077, Witcher 3, Baldurs Gate 3) and open world space better (No Mans Sky).

Starfield doesnt do RPG as good as those games, nor does it do open world space as well as No Mans Sky. I’ve heard it described as being as wide as an ocean but as deep as a puddle, and that doesnt seem far off to me.

I really hope Bethesda have paid attention and dont make the same kind of mistakes with Elder Scrolls VI. Big and empty is not the way to go.

network_switch,

Maybe it would have been better received 10 years ago but I don’t know about being beloved like the elder scrolls or fallout games. 10 years ago was Fallout 4 but even in Skyrim era, it’d be great graphics but without the wonderful whimsy

Starfield is too normal. Bethesda games excel when they take the weirdness of the world seriously. Starfield is too serious conceptually. Elder Scrolls, just the concept of everything being canon because of dragon breaks and other weird aedra/daedra/chim/godhead shenanigans lets writers write wild while it still fitting in as serious in universe

They’ve managed to do that well enough with Fallout even though it’s supposed to be alternate reality world. Still wacky even if not as lore interesting as TES

Starfield is too unimaginative of a sci-fi universe so far. It’s too normal and because of that, they can’t write whacky in a way that people buy into and love. So then they end up judging the game by its systems and mechanics and technical merit way more than they do elder scrolls games or fallout.

Also base/ship building is given too much focus for a single player game. These games aren’t pretty enough to be a single player game that gets beloved for base building like Animal Crossing

k1ck455kc,

Great point. I agree that people would likely forgive all of the technical and environmental shortcomings(loading screens and bland environments) if the game had even a slightly interesting story. Anything worth experiencing at all. Unfortunately it fails all 3 of those fronts.

The places where it excels (1st person gameplay compared to other B* games, ship building, and graphics imo) are not enough to make it a game worth experiencing.

It honestly should have had another 2 years in the oven to make the lore and universe more interesting. No way Bethesda wastes another 5-8 years on a sequel with the negative reception Starfield received.

yeather,

I think they will make a Starfield 2 eventually. But most likely in closer to 15-20 years with a fresh set of developers.

k1ck455kc,

Can you think of another commercial failure IP that ever got a sequel? I honestly want to know if this ever happens.

I have to look back and see if Red Dead Revolver was as disappointing as Starfield.

yeather,

Just based on Wikipedia, many commercial failure video games have a sequel made much later on, or have their IP used in a remake or reimagining. Psychonauts is the one I remember since I like the sequel.

k1ck455kc,

The original psychonauts was a cult classic though that got great reviews.

Starfield is in the opposite boat, it doesnt seem to have been a commercial failure, but fan sentiment is really low with the starfield franchise to the point that the hype around a sequel would be nowhere near what it was for psychonauts 2… But this is all my assumption, difficult to find/trust empirical data on fan interest.

yeather,

I think that may play into Starfield 2’s favor. If properly advertised it could reignite the hype for the first game… if it delivered.

Wrrzag,
@Wrrzag@lemmy.ml avatar

It honestly should have had another 2 years in the oven to make the lore and universe more interesting.

I don’t know, I don’t think it would have changed anything. They might have had an interesting quest or two more, but their writing philosophy of not keeping track of anything and working in isolation would not have made a decent, coherent lore in even 10 extra years, just more unconnected shit with extra tonal dissonance.

ms_lane,

There is just so much potential… squandered.

Silly example- why are there elevators and LOADING SCREENS in New Atlantis - if you have enough jetpack or just abuse TCL, you can walk around the entirety of New Atlantis, without a single loading screen.

But for some reason Bethesda decided it needed some loading screens for no good reason whatsoever.

Gronk,

Damn dude, I’m glad you got so much out of FO4 I did one playthrough when it released and tried to play it again this year, barely got into it.

That’s when Bethesda died for me, didn’t find Skyrims simplifications all that good either but it was still a fun game

Feels like Bethesdas modus operandi is to make a game that appeals to everyone and that’s unfortunately coming at the cost of its established fan base

Gradually_Adjusting,
@Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world avatar

My Bethesda rant goes something like this: “they think the ideal video game is when you can treat everything like action figures, make anything happen in any combination just to see it happen, bash em together, pull them apart, make them kiss, make them join every team and do every thing, do whatever you want, and then fuck off because it never meant anything”.

yesterday, do games w After getting Stardew Valley to 'a good place' with update 1.6, Eric Barone is now fully focused on his next game

Let him cook

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